7 hours ago, RedPill said:

That's why I stopped joining larger groups of foreigners, because the discussion will always get into negative, very fast ... and stays like this for the rest of the evening. (Or be more selective with whom you socialize and have a great time, plenty of nice ppl live here.) 

 

But a random bigger group of foreigners, will always have these negative stories. 

 

A forum however, is a bit of a different thing ... we don't need to cheer us up and pretend it's all so super great ... it's a discussion forum, it's about information, and it's good to have 'all' facts, points and opinions on the table. But actually, most of the talk here will never get cleared up, because we can't speak up in public ???? It's like talking around the hot porridge. Everybody knows why, but no one can say it ????

 

 

 

 

The forum gives people from all over Thailand and abroad a place to have a say.  The reality for a lot of us in the country areas is there is a lot of space between us!  I live in Phitsanulok province and there is group that meets in Mueang Phitsanulok on a monthly basis...but that's a 200km round trip for me.  And the other point is a lot of the foreigners I see I usually say "Geeday" to don't even say "Geeday" back!  And the only decent conversation I have had is with an American guy in Makro.....3 years ago!  So, whether you consider the TVF to be a good forum or bad at least I (we) can hear a lot of opinions on a lot of issues and get feedback from other foreigners despite the restrictions on free speech in Thailand. 

On 4/28/2020 at 12:53 PM, Justgrazing said:

Distilled optimism even quoting 1.12 trill' .. as and when flights do resume it will be a gradual thing .. As for European tourists with it now coming into the summer if folk are allowed out from lockdown a lot are looking at more local holidays .. 

They certainly will be. Spain is back on the agenda in a big way, as are some new EU destinations such as Bulgaria. Cheap holidays with better weather then Thailand and none of the BS associated with Thailand. I may be wrong but I think Thailand has had it's day, at least for Europeans and US travellers. like Spain in the past. However Spain is now up to around 70 to 80 million tourists which is nearly double Thailands I believe. 

 

but just like Spain Thailand may grow again at some time but to do so there needs to be a serious attitude change and a simple visa process with no corrupt nonsense to try and navigate.

 

Time will tell.

 

 

I love how they get their numbers. I am surprised someone could count that high and forget to tell the people of the country it only to get your hopes up. 

Excuse me for asking, is that a ladyboy in the promotion?

39 minutes ago, Winky Wilson said:

Excuse me for asking, is that a ladyboy in the promotion?

Who really cares about the affirmed gender of the model, is it in anyway relevant??

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/spain-germany-deal-blow-hopes-143340165.html

 

Spain has ruled out any early reopening of its tourism sector and Germany is set to extend a travel warning for all leisure trips outside the country until mid-June, casting further doubt on when would-be holidaymakers will be able to venture abroad again.

With airline fleets mostly grounded, cross-border train traffic slashed and many EU countries, including France, requiring all arrivals bar their own citizens to formally justify their journey, leisure travel within Europe is at a near standstill. “We have not yet reached the point where we can recommend carefree travel,” the German foreign minister, Heiko Maas, said on Wednesday.

Arancha González Laya, Spain’s foreign minister, on Wednesday said visitors would be welcomed back to the country – which has suffered Europe’s highest Covid-19 death toll after Italy – only when it is safe for them to come.

“Spain always gives its visitors the warmest possible welcome and wants to do so under the best possible safety conditions,” she said. “That is why Spain will gradually open to tourism when it’s in a position to guarantee tourists’ safety.”

10 hours ago, Winky Wilson said:

Excuse me for asking, is that a ladyboy in the promotion?

yes you could be right ,its a tranny

18 hours ago, Greg O said:

They are total Lunatics ...they still haven't repatriated hundreds of Thai citizens yet extending the flight bans. Now China has announced deeply discounted flights on all of their international carriers...So just where do ya think these people are going to be "lured" from ? 

how will chinese workers afford thai trips with the international supply chains broken they themselves will be out of work..and going nowhere ..germany recession is at 1946 levels so that gives an idea of how bad the german powerhouse is now

2 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

Iran? Who travelled there?

 

Obviously Thailand is not there, if you ask TAT, it's just a tiny part of GDP but of course it's still zillions of baht per arrival. Believe it or not.

14 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

Iran? Who travelled there?

 

Obviously Thailand is not there, if you ask TAT, it's just a tiny part of GDP but of course it's still zillions of baht per arrival. Believe it or not.

No , they are selected countries where Covid striked hard vs their GDP from tourism . Thailand is not in because it doesn't have many cases of Covid .

Thailand will still have the same old immigration rules, regulations and bloated bureaucracy that deter tourists from coming in the first place.

 

 

5 minutes ago, mlmcleod said:

Thailand will still have the same old immigration rules, regulations and bloated bureaucracy that deter tourists from coming in the first place.

And that's because the immigration rules are made by the immigration police that have inbuilt xenophobia - I would too if the people coming in started taking a too close a look at the source of my (brown envelope) income.