4 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Just keep your head buried in the sand and provide links that has no credence for truth and facts. 

lol, whatever eric. You are a sore loser.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/china-trolling-world-and-avoiding-blame/608332/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8172369/China-tried-cover-coronavirus-not-telling-truth.html

https://www.ccn.com/chinese-government-tried-to-cover-up-coronavirus-whistleblowers-death/

14 minutes ago, i84teen said:

lol, whatever eric. You are a sore loser.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/china-trolling-world-and-avoiding-blame/608332/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8172369/China-tried-cover-coronavirus-not-telling-truth.html

https://www.ccn.com/chinese-government-tried-to-cover-up-coronavirus-whistleblowers-death/

Diverting from your original post to other subjects only discredit your credibility. 
 

I was replying to your post that China will ‘not allow the world to get to the bottom of the corona virus’. And I corrected you that China has officially announced in May that they will allow an investigation. 
 

Then you post a link which I highlighted that the link favours the right and known for sensationalizing headlines. 

 

I have no problem accepting that China has not been transparent and that’s a topic for another day. 

 A post containing a screenshot of a web search has been removed as it did not contain valid links.  The replies were removed as well.

4 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Diverting from your original post to other subjects only discredit your credibility. 
 

I was replying to your post that China will ‘not allow the world to get to the bottom of the corona virus’. And I corrected you that China has officially announced in May that they will allow an investigation. 
 

Then you post a link which I highlighted that the link favours the right and known for sensationalizing headlines. 

 

I have no problem accepting that China has not been transparent and that’s a topic for another day. 

eric, take a look at post 241 before it gets jerked by your pals.

how this for weblinks on erics fake claims about Cn's cooperation.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8229963/Economist-claims-China-covered-early-coronavirus-outbreak.html
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2020/03/18/china-destroyed-wuhan-coronavirus-evidence-n2565206

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2020/03/18/china-destroyed-wuhan-coronavirus-evidence-n2565206

https://www.dailywire.com/news/senator-introduces-bill-to-investigate-chinas-coronavirus-cover-up-demands-china-pay-for-damage

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/china-coronavirus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019–20_coronavirus_pandemic

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/02/15/coronavirus-xi-jinping-chinas-incompetence-endangered-the-world/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/20/chinese-inquiry-exonerates-coronavirus-whistleblower-doctor-li-wenliang

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8229963/Economist-claims-China-covered-early-coronavirus-outbreak.html

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=China+has+officially+allowed+an+investigation+of+the+corona+virus&bext=msl&atb=v1-1&ia=web

7 hours ago, i84teen said:

No, and why would/should they. They only know how to cheat, steal, copy, fake, etc.

But if the worlds leading epidemiologists and scientists from around the globe want to get to the bottom of the corona virus to find a cure and vaccine only a corrupt and nefarious nation would not allow it, like Cn.

 

China Asked The WHO To Help Cover Up Coronavirus, German Intelligence Concludes.

https://www.redstate.com/nick-arama/2020/05/09/german-intelligence-china-told-who-to-downplay-virus-delay-information-and-deeming-it-a-pandemic/

https://dailycaller.com/2020/05/09/china-who-coronavirus-coverup-germany/

 

most excellent fake news!  did you bother to follow the links that "prove" your claims?  i bet you did not.

 

they both link to spiegel artikel in german.  i can read the originals, but i'll give you a basic summary of the first one as that covers your allegations.  it's a short article that you can easily google translate yourself.

 

the title in english (bing translate):

 

"Federal government casts doubt on U.S. thesis on the formation of coronavirus"

 

https://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/corona-krise-bundesregierung-zweifelt-an-us-these-zur-entstehung-des-coronavirus-a-51add7cf-96b6-4d04-a2d0-71ce27cff69c

 

the article is in two parts.  the first part is about the federal government determining (according to spiegel sources) that pompeo's claims are meant to be a distraction.  NONE of the 5-eyes partners would confirm them, and consider it a possible targeted hoax.

 

the second part is indeed about a 4-6 week lost time period.  it does give essentially the story you provided.  but it fails to include the following (from bing translate):

 

"Addendum: The World Health Organization (WHO) has denied that there was a phone call between China's head of state and the WHO Secretary-General on January 21. A spokesman said the two had "never spoken by phone" about the Corona pandemic. "

 

the BND concluded a loss of 4-6 weeks, on the assumption that the telephone call actually occurred.  but if there were no phone call?  no 4-6 weeks.

 

 

classic propaganda.  get the claims of the "secret phone call" into the press where it will be repeated endlessly until taken as fact by those unwilling to question.

Edited May 10, 20206 yr by ChouDoufu

6 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Diverting from your original post to other subjects only discredit your credibility. 
 

I was replying to your post that China will ‘not allow the world to get to the bottom of the corona virus’. And I corrected you that China has officially announced in May that they will allow an investigation. 
 

Then you post a link which I highlighted that the link favours the right and known for sensationalizing headlines. 

 

I have no problem accepting that China has not been transparent and that’s a topic for another day. 

You have no problem accepting that China has not been transparent, but believe their official announcement of cooperation some time in the future. ????????

1 hour ago, ChouDoufu said:

 

most excellent fake news!  did you bother to follow the links that "prove" your claims?  i bet you did not.

 

they both link to spiegel artikel in german.  i can read the originals, but i'll give you a basic summary of the first one as that covers your allegations.  it's a short article that you can easily google translate yourself.

 

the title in english (bing translate):

 

"Federal government casts doubt on U.S. thesis on the formation of coronavirus"

 

https://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/corona-krise-bundesregierung-zweifelt-an-us-these-zur-entstehung-des-coronavirus-a-51add7cf-96b6-4d04-a2d0-71ce27cff69c

 

the article is in two parts.  the first part is about the federal government determining (according to spiegel sources) that pompeo's claims are meant to be a distraction.  NONE of the 5-eyes partners would confirm them, and consider it a possible targeted hoax.

 

the second part is indeed about a 4-6 week lost time period.  it does give essentially the story you provided.  but it fails to include the following (from bing translate):

 

"Addendum: The World Health Organization (WHO) has denied that there was a phone call between China's head of state and the WHO Secretary-General on January 21. A spokesman said the two had "never spoken by phone" about the Corona pandemic. "

 

the BND concluded a loss of 4-6 weeks, on the assumption that the telephone call actually occurred.  but if there were no phone call?  no 4-6 weeks.

 

 

classic propaganda.  get the claims of the "secret phone call" into the press where it will be repeated endlessly until taken as fact by those unwilling to question.

Well, not completely exactly sure what you are going on about here comrade, but let me assure that the PRC/CCP do lie, its in their blood to lie and the entire world knows this. They would rather lie when the truth would be better. That's my claim, not the other nonsense you in your rambling.

So, i would choose to follow exactly what the world knows about china's lack of candour (see attached links for a small sample) rather than listen to or believe what u think you know or don't know.

 

https://nypost.com/2020/04/02/chinas-deadly-coronavirus-lie-co-conspirator-the-world-health-organization/

 

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/19/world-health-organization-peddled-chinese-communis/

 

https://www.theepochtimes.com/why-the-chinese-communist-party-lied-about-the-outbreak_3302972.html

 

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/china-lies-all-the-time-why-would-we-believe-them-about-the-coronavirus

 

https://nypost.com/2020/04/14/after-chinas-deadly-coronavirus-lies-why-is-europe-trusting-beijing-on-5g/

https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-china-hid-scale-of-outbreak-us-intelligence-report/a-52988929

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1270740/China-coronavirus-cover-up-Tory-MP-tobias-ellwood-graph-death-rate-Wuhan-conspiracy

https://www.victimsofcommunism.org/sb/chinese-communist-party-world-health-organization-culpability-in-coronavirus-pandemic

2 minutes ago, i84teen said:

Well, not completely exactly sure what you are going on about here comrade, but let me assure that the PRC/CCP do lie, its in their blood to lie and the entire world knows this. They would rather lie when the truth would be better. That's my claim, not the other nonsense you in your rambling.

So, i would choose to follow exactly what the world knows about china's lack of candour (see attached links for a small sample) rather than listen to or believe what u think you know or don't know.

 

https://nypost.com/2020/04/02/chinas-deadly-coronavirus-lie-co-conspirator-the-world-health-organization/

 

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/19/world-health-organization-peddled-chinese-communis/

 

https://www.theepochtimes.com/why-the-chinese-communist-party-lied-about-the-outbreak_3302972.html

 

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/china-lies-all-the-time-why-would-we-believe-them-about-the-coronavirus

 

https://nypost.com/2020/04/14/after-chinas-deadly-coronavirus-lies-why-is-europe-trusting-beijing-on-5g/

https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-china-hid-scale-of-outbreak-us-intelligence-report/a-52988929

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1270740/China-coronavirus-cover-up-Tory-MP-tobias-ellwood-graph-death-rate-Wuhan-conspiracy

https://www.victimsofcommunism.org/sb/chinese-communist-party-world-health-organization-culpability-in-coronavirus-pandemic

 

why bother posting another fake news wall of text?

 

i actually read the first two you posted.  the english propaganda, and the original german.  i showed you where you were being deceived.

 

you chose NOT to investigate the truth of the matter, but continue to blindly parrot conspiracy site garbage or clickbait infotainment.

 

how 'bout you respond to the actual post next time, m'kay?

11 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said:

 

why bother posting another fake news wall of text?

 

i actually read the first two you posted.  the english propaganda, and the original german.  i showed you where you were being deceived.

 

you chose NOT to investigate the truth of the matter, but continue to blindly parrot conspiracy site garbage or clickbait infotainment.

 

how 'bout you respond to the actual post next time, m'kay?

ok, why don't YOU explain "the truth of the matter", enlighten us wih your truth(s) and while you're at it read this cultural piece on chinese lying. (attached)

 

We all lie, me, you, germans, chinese, americans etc.

Get over it, not a big deal. The whole world knows and would agree we lie and china just takes it up a notch to different level that we in the west are accustomed to. I spent 10 years, flying to many locations in Cn, been clear across the country north, south, east, west....took me many years to get my head around the chinese and their CONSTANT LYING

Yavolt and xi xi.

 

https://thelinguafranca.wordpress.com/2008/03/25/do-the-chinese-lie-that-depends/
https://www.theepochtimes.com/tv-personality-chinese-children-are-taught-to-lie_2256574.html

 

 

12 minutes ago, i84teen said:

ok, why don't YOU explain "the truth of the matter", enlighten us wih your truth(s) and while you're at it read this cultural piece on chinese lying. (attached)

 

We all lie, me, you, germans, chinese, americans etc.

Get over it, not a big deal. The whole world knows and would agree we lie and china just takes it up a notch to different level that we in the west are accustomed to. I spent 10 years, flying to many locations in Cn, been clear across the country north, south, east, west....took me many years to get my head around the chinese and their CONSTANT LYING

Yavolt and xi xi.

 

https://thelinguafranca.wordpress.com/2008/03/25/do-the-chinese-lie-that-depends/
https://www.theepochtimes.com/tv-personality-chinese-children-are-taught-to-lie_2256574.html

 

 

haha, i'll take that as a "no" in answer to my question did you follow the links in your propaganda screeds and investigate the sources.

 

 

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Fantastic article today in Rolling Stone on the timeline of how and why the US non-response happened (NOT!). ???? Hint: it's spelled TOTAL INCOMPETENCE AND HEAD-IN-THE-SAND-ITIS.

 

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/covid-19-test-trump-admin-failed-disaster-995930/

This another revealing article with time-line and events and totally revealed the incompetences of the Trump’s administration to make adequate preparations for the pandemic.
 

It really is amazing that Trump was briefed as far back as 13 Jan 2017 when the Obama and Trump transitional teams ran as exercise for pandemic preparation and yet Trump failed to act appropriately for this pandemic. He simply not fit for office. 

https://www.justsecurity.org/69650/timeline-of-the-coronavirus-pandemic-and-u-s-response/

10 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

You have no problem accepting that China has not been transparent, but believe their official announcement of cooperation some time in the future. ????????

You need to know China’s politics to understand that Xi’s position is much under threat by his own CPC inner circle. His mishandling of the Corona virus in the early stages and the economy have been much criticized by the Central Committee. It is Xi interest and survival to repair China image and his own. To make an official statement to allow investigation is an endorsement by his central committee.