13 minutes ago, peterb17 said:

if you lock down the entire country and stop all inwards flights. That makes a difference.

Yes, it does. Both R0 and economy plummet. Then you're forced to open it up because people revolt and you're back to square one, only poorer.

 

Or, you could do what Taiwan, South Korea and others are doing: test & trace & isolate. But that would cost a bit and you'd actually have to publish real numbers and somehow manage to procure enough resources for the testing process itself. IT's a no-go with the usurpers at helm.

With no new reported cases and still under curfew it’s time for departure “. Yesterday they wanted me to sign my name and leave phone number ( k.f.c ) beyond the joke as didn’t have phone with me and I’m fed up with being monitored ... Big brother ???? sadly I’m returning to the u.k next month - not just down virus but have a sick relative who’s not long left. Also have my mother who’s in her late 70s and she’s so independent after getting over cancer she thinks she’s invincible and of course we know the stats for the u.k being the 2nd highest country ! If Thailand was being true about deaths and reported cases then there’s no reason to continue with the 10pm curfew. Would have been loverly to catch up with old friends,. Sadly we’ve had the virus and I’m sure when returning later in the year things will be different love travel sadly it’s not happened on this visit. However it’s allowed me to work on the family home however with the restrictions in place it’s been a difficult time for everybody who enjoy socializing ! Stay safe people ????????

23 minutes ago, peterb17 said:

Gosh

 

its really quite refreshing- normally 100+ posts - are they testing ad infinitum - no mention of Aliens, 5G , Illuminati, all the general boring conspiracy theories.

if you lock down the entire country and stop all inwards flights. That makes a difference.

 

Well done Thailand.

 

 

 

 

 

You can't live in a bubble forever.

Please don't be deluded that this is "over" until it's over. We're still in the beginning stages globally. The ending stage starts when a vaccine happens. Thailand is very dependent on tourism. The buzz seems to be that Thailand will open tourism up to China in a matter of months. Yes. Virginia, the same China that just started a new massive lockdown. This is dictated by the virus. The economy vs. health thing is a misleading and simplistic way of looking at it.

 

Fundamentally speaking the economy gets better when the virus is REALLY under control. No bluffing will work with this virus.

Edited May 22, 20206 yr by Jingthing

27 minutes ago, Traubert said:

Obsessive compulsive fixations. A test is only a snapshot. Its useless two minutes later.

But it is a gauge and gives one knowledge of what you have or do not.  Like a snapshot of your bank accounts helps you in making your determination whether or not to buy something or go somewhere, same with testing.....I wouldn't want to travel to a place that claims low figures because of very few tests knowing full well that there would be a chance to become infected or not to become infected.  Knowledge is power, knowledge is safety, and that knowledge is what can bring happiness or cause destruction.  So in your case I guess you could care less about dying from something that you could have avoided had you known the possible consequences.  Some people want to go on with there lives without caring, while others want to be safe while doing it......

Edited May 22, 20206 yr by ThailandRyan

Yeh alright but I still can't get a straight answer about whether there is still a 14-day quarantine requirement when visiting family up-country. Can anyone point me in the direction of some "official" communication. Interested in Nakhon Ratchasima Province.

1 hour ago, JCP108 said:

Can we assume that since the tracing app was put into play no people who have tested positive used the app to sign in anywhere?

Yes, of course we can assume that. Anyone who has been tested positive will be in isolation, either at home or in a medical facility. So they shouldn't be wandering around the shops until they have been cleared of infection. should they.

 

It's all about back-tracking the movements of a person once they have been found to be positive.

3 hours ago, LeamchabangLarry said:

Oh yeah, what about tests?  how many tests?  they are hiding <deleted>

I will not be satisfied until the entire population is tested.  It's so easy to hide 20,000 dead bodies  

bla bla bla

Have you questioned your own country and own goverment? You are just a guest in this country and act like one. Just be respectful and leave the criticizing to the Thai people, This their homeland right?

21 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Fundamentally speaking the economy gets better when the virus is REALLY under control. No bluffing will work with this virus.

I agree with that...

21 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

But it is a gauge and gives one knowledge of what you have or do not.  Like a snapshot of your bank accounts helps you in making your determination whether or not to buy something or go somewhere, same with testing.....

I'd call the test results the balance sheet and the test & tracing activity the cash flow, if we're doing analogies. The P/L will show the success. Thailand will be thick in the red unless they pull off another lucky break.

Edited May 22, 20206 yr by DrTuner

50 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said:

You can't live in a bubble forever.

Actually I do - I persuaded my favourite tailor to run up one of those biohazard suits - it has sequins - with an individual oxygen supply 

Get a few strange looks .

 

The situation in Thailand is fine - it’s the General clinging on to ultimate control and power - we will get to December - another announcement- the emergency powers have been extended. In the meantime people like myself will still be funding and helping out at the food stations . 

54 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

I wouldn't want to travel to a place that claims low figures because of very few tests

But you already have.

Surely it would be far better to overstate the numbers if you want to keep people scared. 

Telling them there are no cases because you want the scare the bejesus out of them is hardly the way to go.

1 minute ago, berybert said:

Surely it would be far better to overstate the numbers if you want to keep people scared. 

Telling them there are no cases because you want the scare the bejesus out of them is hardly the way to go.

Looking at this another way, I think for whatever reason good or bad, they are basically being honest on the part that they know about. 

So if things are going so well. Single figures and zeros.Why is the state of emergency being extended. 

Rhetorical question by the way. I know why just wondering if they have given any legit reason for it as I can't be bothered to read their B$

1 minute ago, Knocker33 said:

So if things are going so well. Single figures and zeros.Why is the state of emergency being extended. 

Rhetorical question by the way. I know why just wondering if they have given any legit reason for it as I can't be bothered to read their B$

They have to give a reason?

 

What every person has to question is: if this is true or down to politics.

6 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

They have to give a reason?

 

Well being a supposed democracy I was just wondering if they had

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2 hours ago, Moonlover said:

Yes, of course we can assume that. Anyone who has been tested positive will be in isolation, either at home or in a medical facility. So they shouldn't be wandering around the shops until they have been cleared of infection. should they.

 

It's all about back-tracking the movements of a person once they have been found to be positive.

That's what I'm asking.

 

I'm not thinking that they tested positive and then used the app. I'm thinking that one, or more, of the people who tested positive had already used the app. So, if it is working at all the way it has been explained to work, those cases will lead to many others via the tracking of the app. Not hearing about any of that subsequent tracking/notification causes me to wonder if none of the people who have tested positive in the past couple of days used the app prior to getting tested. 

2 hours ago, sencelebi said:

Have you questioned your own country and own goverment? You are just a guest in this country and act like one. Just be respectful and leave the criticizing to the Thai people, This their homeland right?

A "guest" in this country?????????????????????????

No new nothings ! And yet they extend the state of emergency by a month....Control, control , control....

1 hour ago, Knocker33 said:

So if things are going so well. Single figures and zeros.Why is the state of emergency being extended. 

Rhetorical question by the way. I know why just wondering if they have given any legit reason for it as I can't be bothered to read their B$

If I understood it correctly the reason is that if people do not obey then the 2nd wave will come, and it is their fault.
 

2 hours ago, sencelebi said:

Have you questioned your own country and own goverment? 

 

Yes, all my countries and all my governments. And so should you.

Soooo.... that means there are only 17 people currently in hospital ?

5 minutes ago, yuyiinthesky said:

If I understood it correctly the reason is that if people do not obey then the 2nd wave will come, and it is their fault.
 

How can there be a second wave if no one in Thailand has Covid...Ooops ...sorry ..there are a few folks in hospital with it.... 

12 minutes ago, yuyiinthesky said:

 

Yes, all my countries and all my governments. And so should you.

Did you get an answer from them?

 

May we see it?

7 hours ago, LeamchabangLarry said:

Oh yeah, what about tests?  how many tests?  they are hiding <deleted>

I will not be satisfied until the entire population is tested.  It's so easy to hide 20,000 dead bodies  

bla bla bla

Expats would’ve been the first to die. You can’t hide that

Hilarious !  A country where the combined operations of the Royal Thai Police, The Navy Seals, Special Forces and a guy named Nobblynuts couldn't find a brothel in Pattaya....... and they're looking for a virus ?  Do you know i've never taken drugs in my life, i think maybe this could be the time to start..... maybe the situation might appear clearer under heavy sedation..... 

6 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

I will be happy when and if these folks let the world as we no it return slowly with the ability to do the things we would like to do.  However, even when that time comes to fruition, I am sure as hell doing my best to stay away from crowds and such.  All I want is for this shiiteheads to be honest and transparent, something liars never are.....an honest answer goes a long way

You want an honest answer, or just one you're happy with?

 

I don't know what the infection rates are, or how many people have died. Neither do you.

 

There isn't a country in the world who can say exactly how many people have been infected

as no one has tested a significant amount of people

 

Even south Korea, the poster boys of how to deal with the virus have tested less

than one in fifty of the population and that's assuming each of the 802000 tests 

so far were individuals and not multiples for people who work in the health 

industry.