Trump signs order on police reform after weeks of protests about racial injustice

[webfact]

Trump signs order on police reform after weeks of protests about racial injustice

By Jeff Mason

 

U.S. President Donald Trump is applauded by law enforcement leaders surrounding him as he holds up an executive order on police reform after signing it during an event in the Rose Garden at the White House in Washington, U.S., June 16, 2020. REUTERS/Leah Millis

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump, facing criticism that his policies and inflammatory rhetoric have aggravated a racial divide in the United States, signed an order on Tuesday that he said would reform police practices even as he pressed for "law and order" nationwide.

 

After weeks of protests against racism and policy brutality prompted by the death of George Floyd, a black man killed on May 25 in police custody in Minneapolis, Trump sought to offer a policy response to rising concerns about racial injustice going into the Nov. 3 election, in which he is seeking a second term.

 

Trump, a Republican, opened his remarks by expressing sympathy to the families of victims of police violence, pledging to fight for justice and promising them their loved ones will not have died in vain. But he quickly pivoted to a defense of law enforcement officers and a threat of penalties to looters.

 

"Americans want law and order, they demand law and order," Trump said at a ceremony at the White House, reiterating a call that has angered protesters who have poured onto streets from New York to Los Angeles.

 

President Donald Trump, facing criticism that his policies and inflammatory rhetoric have aggravated a racial divide in the United States, signed an order on Tuesday aimed at improving police practices and said that "Americans want law and order." This report produced by Lisa Bernhard.

 

"Americans know the truth: Without police there is chaos, without law there is anarchy, and without safety there is catastrophe," he said.

 

In his public comments and on Twitter, Trump has called for crackdowns on protesters and emphasized a forceful and militarized response to the social unrest sparked by the death of Floyd and others. Despite issuing a call for unity, he used his Rose Garden address on Tuesday to criticize former President Barack Obama, the first black U.S. president, for his record on police reforms. Opinion polls show widespread concerns among Americans about police brutality.

 

Tuesday's order encourages police departments to employ the latest standards for use of force, improve information sharing so that officers with poor records are not hired without their backgrounds being known, and add social workers to law enforcement responses to non-violent cases involving drug addiction and homelessness, officials said.

 

Trump's proposal would steer federal money toward police departments that get certification by outside bodies and would ban chokeholds unless an officer's life was in danger. It also would encourage them to use less-lethal weapons such as stun guns.

 

Civil-rights groups and top Democrats, including former Vice President Joe Biden, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, said the order was insufficient.

 

Trump reiterated that he opposes calls to "defund the police" by reimagining or dismantling police departments. Leading Democrats, including Biden, have not embraced such calls, but Republicans have jumped on the issue.

 

The Democratic-led House of Representatives is expected to vote later this month on sweeping legislation put forward by the Congressional Black Caucus to rein in police misconduct.

 

Senate Republicans are expected to unveil their own legislation on Wednesday that concentrates more on data collection than on policy changes in areas involving lethal force. Trump urged Congress to act.

 

Democrats want to allow victims of misconduct and their families to sue police. Republicans are pushing to reduce job protections for members of law enforcement unions.

 

Trump's decision to ban chokeholds appears similar to the ban included in the Democratic legislation.

 

Republican lawmakers are divided on that issue.

 

Inimai Chettiar of the Justice Action Network said the use of grant money to influence police department policies could be an effective way to get results, but she noted that Trump's Justice Department has resisted other reform efforts.

 

"I have a lot of skepticism in terms of how rigorously this is going to be implemented," she said. Other civil-rights groups said Trump's order did not go far enough.

 

(Reporting by Jeff Mason; additional reporting by Doina Chiacu, David Morgan and Sarah N. Lynch; Editing by Andy Sullivan, Sonya Hepinstall, Cynthia Osterman and Jonathan Oatis)

 

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[keith101]

4 minutes ago, webfact said:

he used his Rose Garden address on Tuesday to criticize former President Barack Obama, the first black U.S. president, for his record on police reforms.

He has been in office for nearly 4 years and has the nerve as usual to blame Obama for his own ignorance and racism .

[Crazy Alex]

Really, it's people reform that is needed. Savages have *protested* the murder of a black man by murdering FIFTEEN black people and destroying hundreds if not thousands of black-owned and other businesses. And these same people will be whining about how there are not enough good stores in their neighborhoods. Who in their right mind would invest in an area that sees a significant percentage of it burned down and/or looted every few years?

 

Police reform? Thanks Mr. President, but you're barking up the wrong tree.

[Crazy Alex]

1 minute ago, keith101 said:

He has been in office for nearly 4 years and has the nerve as usual to blame Obama for his own ignorance and racism .

Well yes,  it's common knowledge that Barack Obama militarized the police. Even HuffPo complained about it:

 

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/obama-police-militarization_n_3566478

 

Or would you be OK with Trump continuing to militarize the police the way Obama did for several years? Yes? No?

[Langsuan Man]

31 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:

Well yes,  it's common knowledge that Barack Obama militarized the police

Get your facts straight if you are going to pontificate here

 

The militarization of the US police was started after the first Gulf War under the first Bush with the release of surplus equipment, long before President Obama was in office 

 

But common knowledge isn't isn't so common for fan boys  

[J Town]

His "order" is more like suggestions. Nothing with any meat on the bone.

[Baerboxer]

5 hours ago, keith101 said:

He has been in office for nearly 4 years and has the nerve as usual to blame Obama for his own ignorance and racism .

 

Well, what reforms did the US's first black POTUS implement on law enforcement? He had 8 years to address it.

 

Pelosi, Schummer and Biden - all long term career politicians who've held office for decades. What has each one previously done to reform police brutality, accountability and improve police community relations?

 

Regardless of what Trump is and isn't, the others are all long term politicians who've done <deleted> all about this before jumping on the recent bandwagon hoping to pick up black votes.

[Baerboxer]

4 hours ago, Langsuan Man said:

Get your facts straight if you are going to pontificate here

 

The militarization of the US police was started after the first Gulf War under the first Bush with the release of surplus equipment, long before President Obama was in office 

 

But common knowledge isn't isn't so common for fan boys  

 

And what did Obama do in his 8 years to reform and change it?

[Baerboxer]

5 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

Really, it's people reform that is needed. Savages have *protested* the murder of a black man by murdering FIFTEEN black people and destroying hundreds if not thousands of black-owned and other businesses. And these same people will be whining about how there are not enough good stores in their neighborhoods. Who in their right mind would invest in an area that sees a significant percentage of it burned down and/or looted every few years?

 

Police reform? Thanks Mr. President, but you're barking up the wrong tree.

 

It's the neo-Marxist BLM organization and criminals looking to exploit the situation that have committed the crimes. Not the real protesters against racism and police brutality who are mostly peaceful.

[DoctorG]

26 minutes ago, J Town said:

His "order" is more like suggestions. Nothing with any meat on the bone.

With policing being a state and city responsibility there really is not a lot a President can do. Some pressure on funding and a few tweaks here and there.

[Pedrogaz]

If Trump has signed it you an be sure nothing at all will change. The murderous carnage of young black men, innocent or guilty will go on just the same as it always has. Cops will never be brought to justice. 

[Srikcir]

Not sure why the document is called an "Order."

It suggests, urges, promises, etc. but what was actually ordered?

This order is about as anemic and watered down as Trump's final Covid 19 guidelines. 

Furthermore, Trump says it's up to Congress for passing necessary police related laws which he says he will support. Except when he changes his mind and won't as we have seen with previous almost unanimous legislation from Congress originally supported by Trump. He owes political loyalty to only one person - himself.

[Sujo]

It was the biggest most beautiful pen ever and it writes the best words.

[Mick501]

9 hours ago, keith101 said:

He has been in office for nearly 4 years and has the nerve as usual to blame Obama for his own ignorance and racism .

And Obama did what exactly to prevent it in his 8 years?

[Sujo]

7 minutes ago, Mick501 said:

And Obama did what exactly to prevent it in his 8 years?

Trump is the president. I dont recall such so much rioting and such under obama.

 

So what has trump done to heal the divide. Surely not just this weak executive order.

 

Not a face mask in sight. Going against their own advice.

Edited June 17, 2020 by Sujo

[johnnybangkok]

22 minutes ago, Mick501 said:

And Obama did what exactly to prevent it in his 8 years?

I mean can none of you guys use Google or does your skin start burning when faced with facts? You know like holy water on a vampire.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-says-obama-didn-t-reform-policing-he-did-then-n1231200

[curlylekan]

10 hours ago, keith101 said:

He has been in office for nearly 4 years and has the nerve as usual to blame Obama for his own ignorance and racism .

Are you aware that Obama did the same with Bush. I'm not saying one is right or better than the other, all I'm saying is that they have both done it and they both did it for many years while in office. I think this is good to know that this is an ongoing problem with leadership and not something to single one president out for doing

[J Town]

1 minute ago, curlylekan said:

Are you aware that Obama did the same with Bush. I'm not saying one is right or better than the other, all I'm saying is that they have both done it and they both did it for many years while in office. I think this is good to know that this is an ongoing problem with leadership and not something to single one president out for doing

Can you back that claim? I never noticed Obama talking trash about Bush, Obama generally had more class than that. The current guy? I flush stuff down the toilet with more class than him.

[curlylekan]

10 hours ago, Langsuan Man said:

Get your facts straight if you are going to pontificate here

 

The militarization of the US police was started after the first Gulf War under the first Bush with the release of surplus equipment, long before President Obama was in office 

 

But common knowledge isn't isn't so common for fan boys  

It was brought into law in '97 under Clinton. This is stated in the article that the poster you're quoted placed for reference.

[johnnybangkok]

10 minutes ago, curlylekan said:

Are you aware that Obama did the same with Bush. I'm not saying one is right or better than the other, all I'm saying is that they have both done it and they both did it for many years while in office. I think this is good to know that this is an ongoing problem with leadership and not something to single one president out for doing

Apart from Trump who has rolled back previous police reforms by previous presidents. You can single out some Presidents for not doing much; Trump has actually made it worse.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-says-obama-didn-t-reform-policing-he-did-then-n1231200

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-falsely-claims-obama-never-even-tried-to-reform-police-2020-6

https://www.washingtonpost.com/

 

[Mick501]

4 hours ago, johnnybangkok said:

I mean can none of you guys use Google or does your skin start burning when faced with facts? You know like holy water on a vampire.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-says-obama-didn-t-reform-policing-he-did-then-n1231200

Something from a non partisan source perhaps?  Not even going to bother reading  a link from a media arm of the Dems.

[Mick501]

4 hours ago, Sujo said:

Trump is the president. I dont recall such so much rioting and such under obama.

 

So what has trump done to heal the divide. Surely not just this weak executive order.

 

Not a face mask in sight. Going against their own advice.

Question was what did Obama do in his 8 years.  As for the rioting, that is the jurisdiction of various counties, and the responsibility of the elected officials.  24 of the 25 cities where there have been violent riots (Miami being the exception) have mayors from the Dems.  Such a violent and hateful lot they are.  No idea why that element continually impedes real progress.

[Dumbastheycome]

14 minutes ago, Mick501 said:

Question was what did Obama do in his 8 years.  As for the rioting, that is the jurisdiction of various counties, and the responsibility of the elected officials.  24 of the 25 cities where there have been violent riots (Miami being the exception) have mayors from the Dems.  Such a violent and hateful lot they are.  No idea why that element continually impedes real progress.

The alternative question is ask why did  Obama not be presented with such urgent  cause to do anything?

Which leads to the question of who is  behind the  rioters and looters who are being  mobilized into the Dem locations which have permitted the exercise of  the right to peaceful protest but are being hijacked in some media perceptions ?

IMO the combination of  Covid-19  and Trump has opened the sore wounds it has  for far too long hidden under the greenback bandages !

Societal Sepsis has set  in.

 

 

[Redline]

18 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

Well yes,  it's common knowledge that Barack Obama militarized the police. Even HuffPo complained about it:

 

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/obama-police-militarization_n_3566478

 

Or would you be OK with Trump continuing to militarize the police the way Obama did for several years? Yes? No?

It started with Reagan  ????

[metisdead]

A troll post and the replies have been removed.

 

Conspiracy posts and the replies have been removed. 

[Crazy Alex]

9 hours ago, johnnybangkok said:

Apart from Trump who has rolled back previous police reforms by previous presidents. You can single out some Presidents for not doing much; Trump has actually made it worse.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-says-obama-didn-t-reform-policing-he-did-then-n1231200

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-falsely-claims-obama-never-even-tried-to-reform-police-2020-6

https://www.washingtonpost.com/

 

I guess we're supposed to forget Obama militarized the police. Nice try.

[Langsuan Man]

2 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

I guess we're supposed to forget Obama militarized the police. Nice try.

No, Crazy Alex we are supposed to remember the truth, something you seem to be incapable of understanding or even caring about

 

I doubt if you even read the articles cited above since they would conflict with your mantra: 

 

Trump good, Obama bad 

[J Town]

2 minutes ago, Langsuan Man said:

No, Crazy Alex we are supposed to remember the truth, something you seem to be incapable of understanding or even caring about.

I've stopped engaging with childish members, banishing them to the Phantom Zone aka ignore list. Now when I have discussions with members with whom I have disagreements, it's civil, adult discourse.

[johnnybangkok]

5 hours ago, J Town said:

I've stopped engaging with childish members, banishing them to the Phantom Zone aka ignore list. Now when I have discussions with members with whom I have disagreements, it's civil, adult discourse.

Completely agree. There are plenty of Trump fans who are simply not worth engaging with as NOTHING you can say will ever change their mind and nothing Trump does will ever make them think he's anything less than some demi-god. They are full of straw man fallacy's, deflections, conspiracies, provocative avatars and cognitive disonnance. There's never any facts, there's always complete denial (even if it comes out of Trumps own mouth or is on video for the world to see) and it ALWAYS goes back to Obama and 'but, but Hilary' (this thread for example).

I choose to engage on the off-chance I may change a mind or two and fortunately there has been some Trump apologists of old that have gone quiet in recent months so perhaps they have finally woke up to this never ending disaster of a POTUS and jumped ship. However there are still a few who continually show their true colors even when faced with overwhelming evidence. 

These can never be changed but it's better to engage as I see them as representative of the bigger picture of why so many still follow this disaster of a POTUS and what needs to be done to win them over. This is impossible though if they are simply angry, bitter old white men who have always blamed others for their own misfortune. 

 

    

[curlylekan]

21 hours ago, J Town said:

Can you back that claim? I never noticed Obama talking trash about Bush, Obama generally had more class than that. The current guy? I flush stuff down the toilet with more class than him.

Very easy. Do a Google search: "Obama blames Bush. Yes, you'd think Obama has a lot more class, but here it is not the case. 

 

https://www.usnews.com/news/obama/articles/2010/02/09/obama-wont-abandon-blame-bush-strategy

 

If you turned on the TV or radio during Obama's presidency and he was speaking, you could be almost guaranteed he'd blame Bush