EU chief executive: no post-Brexit deal without 'level playing field'

[kingdong]

3 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

Umh, her mates..

You see, it was agreed that a German would get this job, whilst the French got the job of head of the European Central Bank.

 

All very democratic - level playing fields and all that

And people wonder why Britain voted to leave,they should put up a statue of Nigel farage.

[Rookiescot]

1 minute ago, kingdong said:

And people wonder why Britain voted to leave,they should put up a statue of Nigel farage.

Maybe even move Lizzie aside and make him king?

???? 

[vinny41]

13 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

And the UK manufacturers are not facing the same issue?

China yes USA no

[Rookiescot]

2 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

China yes USA no

And even if thats true do you seriously think UK manufacturing will survive?

[kingdong]

1 minute ago, Rookiescot said:

And even if thats true do you seriously think UK manufacturing will survive?

If people see sense and buy british ,yes or is patriotism a banned word on this forumn?

[smedly]

30 minutes ago, Nigel Garvie said:

"I'm alarmed at how bad the level of foreign ownership really is - it far exceeds my worst expectations," said Paul Lines, from Fishing for Leave, a pro-Brexit group within the British fishing industry. If nothing's going to change, the whole Brexit scenario is a lie. If English fisherman don't benefit from this, it's been a pointless exercise for us."

this quote is competently out of context and not relevant to the point you tried to make

 

nice try

 

I hope you enjoy your republican Scotland - I will enjoy watching you beg to rejoin the UK when you realize how much we carried you and how little you have on your own

[vinny41]

Just now, Rookiescot said:

And even if thats true do you seriously think UK manufacturing will survive?

Personally I do , I accept there will be some downsizing , the main problem that UK car manufacturing before covid19 is people not sure what to buy, some many different restrictions on where you can drive diesel cars, most people I know would buy electric if the pricing was lower or I understand there will be a £6,000 allowance announce next month for electric cars

I don't know of anyone that is buying diesel cars at the moment

Someone told me to drive some diesel cars into London you have to pay £32 per day in congestion charges and dirty fuel charges

that nearly £12k if you drive into London everyday

[smedly]

50 minutes ago, kingdong said:

Just returned from Waitrose haddock was £18.95 a kilo,would be nice for people to be able to afford a bit of fish.

Foreign boats catch our fish take it to a foreign country and sell it back to us

 

great isn't it

[smedly]

11 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

And even if thats true do you seriously think UK manufacturing will survive?

Maybe BMW etc will have to make cars in the UK in order to sell them competitively 

 

keep the feet for dancing

[Rookiescot]

5 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

Personally I do , I accept there will be some downsizing , the main problem that UK car manufacturing before covid19 is people not sure what to buy, some many different restrictions on where you can drive diesel cars, most people I know would buy electric if the pricing was lower or I understand there will be a £6,000 allowance announce next month for electric cars

I don't know of anyone that is buying diesel cars at the moment

Someone told me to drive some diesel cars into London you have to pay £32 per day in congestion charges and dirty fuel charges

that nearly £12k if you drive into London everyday

Excellent news.

The entire UK car manufacturing will consist of half a dozen guys making Sinclair C5's.

[kingdong]

5 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

Personally I do , I accept there will be some downsizing , the main problem that UK car manufacturing before covid19 is people not sure what to buy, some many different restrictions on where you can drive diesel cars, most people I know would buy electric if the pricing was lower or I understand there will be a £6,000 allowance announce next month for electric cars

I don't know of anyone that is buying diesel cars at the moment

Someone told me to drive some diesel cars into London you have to pay £32 per day in congestion charges and dirty fuel charges

that nearly £12k if you drive into London everyday

Who is going to buy a new car with the coming depression,and governments who keep moving the goalposts on emmissions,congestion charging,shutting roads off to all except buses and cycles?

[Rookiescot]

2 minutes ago, smedly said:

Maybe BMW etc will have to make cars in the UK in order to sell them competitively 

 

keep the feet for dancing

You think BMW is going to invest that kind of money for that kind of return?

No you are going to have to pay more for something you could have had pre brexit. Also factor in the exchange rate where the pound is in freefall.

Again.

[kingdong]

1 minute ago, Rookiescot said:

You think BMW is going to invest that kind of money for that kind of return?

No you are going to have to pay more for something you could have had pre brexit. Also factor in the exchange rate where the pound is in freefall.

Again.

Along with the dollar,the euro,and every other western currency

[vinny41]

1 minute ago, Rookiescot said:

Excellent news.

The entire UK car manufacturing will consist of half a dozen guys making Sinclair C5's.

And Potential Telsa

Tesla linked to new UK gigafactory in Somerset

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/tesla-linked-new-uk-gigafactory-somerset

 

He is looking at a country where right hand drive versions can be built

And outside the EU as EU cars will be built in Germany

[smedly]

36 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

You think BMW is going to invest that kind of money for that kind of return?

huge market

 

meanwhile UK shipbuilding will be no more in Scotland ????

[nauseus]

3 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

Yes it is a lot of metal. But its not over 50% of their sales. The EU car manufacturers can ride out the storm. The UK manufacturers will not.

Then who fills that void left in the UK?

I just read in the Post today that German automakers have $15B of inventory unsold.

[Nigel Garvie]

10 hours ago, smedly said:

this quote is competently out of context and not relevant to the point you tried to make

 

nice try

 

I hope you enjoy your republican Scotland - I will enjoy watching you beg to rejoin the UK when you realize how much we carried you and how little you have on your own

Not out of context in any way at all, It was all part of the same point, I'm sorry if you didn't understand.

Poor try

 

"I will enjoy watching you beg to rejoin the UK"

Of course..........like all the other countries (Over 100 I believe) in the world that have gained their independence from the now pathetically depleted "Empire".

Oops sorry, not a single one has ever begged to come back, I wonder why?  

[billd766]

16 hours ago, dimitriv said:

 

The EU already has trade deals. And till now the UK didn't show that it can do better.

 

Oh, I forgot about chlorinated chicken and hormone meat 

But the EU negotiated those trade deals and NOT the individual countries who are not permitted to negotiate their own trade deals. Only the EU trades commissioners were allowed to negotiate trade deals and all the details should be ratified by all EU countries before it takes effect.

 

So nobody knows if the UK will do better or not. I don't and I am certain that you and your supporters do either.

 

As for your comment "Oh, I forgot about chlorinated chicken and hormone meat" that deal has not been finalised either."

 

However please keep trying to find problems and tell us all about it.

[nauseus]

3 hours ago, Nigel Garvie said:

Not out of context in any way at all, It was all part of the same point, I'm sorry if you didn't understand.

Poor try

 

"I will enjoy watching you beg to rejoin the UK"

Of course..........like all the other countries (Over 100 I believe) in the world that have gained their independence from the now pathetically depleted "Empire".

Oops sorry, not a single one has ever begged to come back, I wonder why?  

What are you on about now? Come back to what? Independence was given. There is no depleted "Empire" to come back to- it's gone - but the UK isn't. Most of these countries elected to remain in the British Commonwealth. That's it. Nothing to do do with the UK or EU. 

[welovesundaysatspace]

 

1 hour ago, billd766 said:

So nobody knows if the UK will do better or not. I don't and I am certain that you and your supporters do either.

I appreciate your honesty. Other Brexiteers, especially the leaders, have not been that honest. They promised the UK will do better, telling people that all you need is being on your own (“sovereignty”), completely ignoring that it also takes good negotiators and (most importantly) clout. 

[Aforek]

Nowadays sovereignty is an illusion, we all depend too much on each other
GB chose to leave , let's hope  that it is the right choice, but EU can live without GB 

[vogie]

38 minutes ago, Aforek said:

Nowadays sovereignty is an illusion, we all depend too much on each other
GB chose to leave , let's hope  that it is the right choice, but EU can live without GB 

Democracy is not an illusion though, the British Government were quite in order to give its citizens the choice, I wouldn't have thought that most other countries in the EU will be offered that choice, does it not bother you that you are not trusted to vote in case you vote the wrong way, isn't that how dictatorships operate?

[welovesundaysatspace]

11 minutes ago, vogie said:

 isn't that how dictatorships operate?

Not knowing what a dictatorship is but complaining when we call Brexiteers uneducated... really wondering to what sort of school you guys went (if any)... ???? 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 19, 2020 by welovesundaysatspace

[vogie]

3 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Not knowing what a dictatorship is but complaining when we call Brexiteers uneducated... 

Oops touched a nerve again, get the insults out and fire at will. Just for the record you call everybody uneducated except your self. 

[kingdong]

8 hours ago, Nigel Garvie said:

 

Oops sorry, not a single one has ever begged to come back, I wonder why?  

One of lives mysteries,however why do so many of their citizens flee their utopias and try to get into britain ?

[kingdong]

1 hour ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Not knowing what a dictatorship is but complaining when we call Brexiteers uneducated... really wondering to what sort of school you guys went (if any)... ???? 

 

 

 

 

Typical remainer tactic,take one sentence out of a paragraph,and present it out of context

[welovesundaysatspace]

1 hour ago, vogie said:

Oops touched a nerve again, get the insults out and fire at will.
 

It’s not an insult when you feel insulted because of your education. If I touched a nerve there—no one forced you to parade your lack of knowledge in front of everyone. 

[vogie]

2 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

It’s not an insult when you feel insulted because of your education. If I touched a nerve there—no one forced you to parade your lack of knowledge in front of everyone. 

And in he same breath no-one asked you to parade your air of superiority, which you could give a masterclasses on. Why do you feel the need to be arrogant all the time, can't you reply to a topic without an insult, is that what an education does to people?

[welovesundaysatspace]

5 minutes ago, kingdong said:

Typical remainer tactic,take one sentence out of a paragraph,and present it out of context

I’m afraid the rest of his post just underlined that he doesn’t know what a dictatorship is, so if anything I was doing him a favor by not further exposing his lack of knowledge. 

[vogie]

Just now, welovesundaysatspace said:

I’m afraid the rest of his post just underlined that he doesn’t know what a dictatorship is, so if anything I was doing him a favor by not further exposing his lack of knowledge. 

Pretty obvious really, has Germany offered you or anyone else a referendum, of course they havn't they have dictated you can't have one. HTH ????????????