1 hour ago, Traubert said:

The internal precautions are different league though:

 

A government employee in Baoding, North China's Hebei Province, which governs Xiongan New Area, told the Global Times on Wednesday that people from Beijing areas rated medium or high risk have been requested to go on quarantine for 14 days and undergo nucleic tests three times during the 14-day quarantine period.  

They also have to take a serum antibody test and a CT scan for pneumonia detection, the employee said. Those who came from low risk areas in Beijing to Xiongan only need to show their health code.

The response comes after Hebei reported its one new confirmed case in Xiongan New Area, who was in close contact with Beijing's cases, and three asymptomatic cases, one of whom had close contact with a Beijing-related case. Those areas in the province stepped up their health checks on arrivals from Beijing.

Harbin, the capital of Northeast China's Heilongjiang Province, appears to have enforced the strictest health checks on arrivals from Beijing. An operator of the city government's hotline said people from Beijing's medium- and high-risk areas have to go on a 14-day centralized quarantine and seven-day home quarantine. They were urged to undergo four nucleic tests and one serum antibody test during the quarantine. 

People from Beijing's low risk areas should also go on two to three days of centralized quarantine, take two nucleic tests and one serum antibody test. Only those tested negative for the COVID-19 could go on home quarantine under the local community's supervision until the centralized and home quarantine reach 14 days in all.

Wang Peiyu, the deputy head of Peking University's School of Public Health, told the Global Times on Wednesday that although Heilongjiang has not reported local cases related to Beijing's new outbreak, Harbin's measures are understandable, as it saw a spike of imported cases in April, and sounded the alarm over local infections related to cases from outside.

Also on Wednesday, the Macao Special Administrative Region said those who have been to Beijing within 14 days of arriving should be on a 14-day quarantine.

 

You dont get thermometer waved at you in China.
 

That's amazing, Traubert. Any more information you'd like impart on us from Chinese state media? 

and how long till the first country is removed from the bubble....

7 minutes ago, spiekerjozef said:

and how long till the first country is removed from the bubble....

I realize this comment not about Thailand. This week in state of Victoria, Australia they were doing well. Many days zero then bang 16 cases yesterday. NZ zero cases for many days then 2 positive coming from UK and released into public. Then one additional.

The notion of BUBBLES is just a lame joke. 

Not remotely possible.

To reply to spiekerjozef. My guess less than a week. More like couple of days.

Edited June 18, 20206 yr by DrJack54

8 hours ago, simon43 said:

Me for one (scientist/businessman).  But I have absolutely no desire to visit Thailand.  Laos has done a much better job than Thailand in preventing widespread Wuhan flu cases (19 cases, zero deaths, all recovered).  Our lock-down has ended and there were only sensible regulations implemented, unlike some of the crazy rules in Thailand.  I can renew my Lao WP and annual visa in-country.  I feel much safer here than in Thailand (and with 2 ex-wives in Thailand, I definitely feel safer here in Laos!).

Dear me, you have been busy in Thailand. As a friend once said to me, if they didn't have c###s they'd be piled ten high at the local tip.

Be that as it may, what gives you confidence the data the Lao health authorities are putting out is valid? After all, in Asia most people tell you what they think you want to hear.

 

Government moves. 

4 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Be that as it may, what gives you confidence the data the Lao health authorities are putting out is valid? After all, in Asia most people tell you what they think you want to hear.

Maybe you missed the bit of guy you quoted.....he is not only scientist but also a businessman?

Edited June 18, 20206 yr by DrJack54

2 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Maybe you missed the bit of guy you quoted.....he is not only scientist but also a businessman

Your point is?

You can bet that once the scientists, professors and businesspeople arrive—they will open the floodgates to the hordes—within a few days... 

Just now, Lacessit said:

Your point is?

My point was the guy you quoted is nonsense BS. It was sarcasm

Edited June 18, 20206 yr by DrJack54

5 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

My point was the guy you quoted is nonsense BS. It was sarcasm

He did it very well , then.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/laos/

Translation I'm a racist incompetent old fool that will do my best to use COVID as a excuse to not  allow any white tourists enter for as long as l can. Yes China is ravaged but l eat Chinese <deleted> and love them. Yes l know you can be tested for COVID. But We are enjoying destroying people's lives. God dam man lm rich hiso with no clue about governance.

Edited June 18, 20206 yr by tomauasia

Why do I think this geeza looks thick as sh#te.

10 hours ago, anchadian said:

And so it continues.

 

Why can't we get news when it actually happens and not continuous updates, i.e. we're working on it.

All about fitting the free lunches in...

It seems that July 1 is going to be very restricted to a few countries with restricted set of people.

 

Try again for Aug 1 for wider selection of retirees and people married to Thai

A Thai airports authority guy was talking about 1st September.

Take your pick.

People have actually been booking flights to Thailand later this year.

A 600 people flare up in Germany today won't help either.

 

49 minutes ago, WillyPlatt said:

They couldn't care less about mongers and destitute expats.

Did spend a few days in Luang Prabang a few years ago. Lovely place.

Just another stupid punter. Yes I enjoy a beer along with my partner of 7 years and spend well over 100k baht a month here. 

And you....

"Did spend few days Liang Prabang s few years ago...." 

Geezus that boosted Laos economy. 

11 hours ago, anchadian said:

And so it continues.

 

Why can't we get news when it actually happens and not continuous updates, i.e. we're working on it.

They love this stuff.  It's like the bureaucrat olympics for them.

Edited June 18, 20206 yr by shdmn

Just now, shdmn said:

They love this stuff.  It's like the bureaucrat olympics for them.

To be fare it occurs elsewhere. I'm Oz. As I type this we have states in Australia that have closed borders to other states. The Federal government taking state government to high court. The idea of bubble (very simple for AU & NZ seems now distant dream. 

41 minutes ago, WillyPlatt said:

A Thai airports authority guy was talking about 1st September.

Take your pick.

People have actually been booking flights to Thailand later this year.

A 600 people flare up in Germany today won't help either.

 

I just selected one page of release today.

It all means stuff all. Airports have very little to do with ability to travel. Check it out Mr rich. ha

The Wuhan flu is not leaving anytime soon, and as soon as the borders are open ---- give it two weeks + and it will be shutdown again ... not just here but everywhere... this will be the future for a few years (5 -10) - NO vaccine will be developed as it will mutate over and over again .... where is the SARS vaccine after all these years....? The poor health or hygiene of many Countries will ensure its survival ...... batten down the hatches with your finances as the REAL financial impact has still to hit Thailand.... The devastation will put it back 50 years.  On a side note -> tourist target being Chinese and Indians who are on the verge of a major conflict.... that's gonna go well !

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

I just selected one page of release today.

It all means stuff all. Airports have very little to do with ability to travel. Check it out Mr rich. ha

What is this list supposed to mean? If it is for "airport reopening" I recognize multiple countries which never had any "international flight bans" and the airports were never closed

Edited June 18, 20206 yr by smurmelade

I definitely don't anticipate the UK or the US being allowed to enter Thailand this year...maybe longer. 

12 hours ago, simon43 said:

Me for one (scientist/businessman).  But I have absolutely no desire to visit Thailand.  Laos has done a much better job than Thailand in preventing widespread Wuhan flu cases (19 cases, zero deaths, all recovered).  Our lock-down has ended and there were only sensible regulations implemented, unlike some of the crazy rules in Thailand.  I can renew my Lao WP and annual visa in-country.  I feel much safer here than in Thailand (and with 2 ex-wives in Thailand, I definitely feel safer here in Laos!).

Laos hasn't done anything. For one, it has done basically no testing. Easy to declare victory when you don't do the work to begin with.

 

Thai extensions of stay can be renewed in-country no issues. Thailand has a visa amnesty until July 31 for non-resident foreigners, including border pass holders. Laos? One month extensions only, and you have to pay for them.

 

The Thai lockdown has basically ended too...only bars and nightclubs still haven't re-opened.

4 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Dear me, you have been busy in Thailand. As a friend once said to me, if they didn't have c###s they'd be piled ten high at the local tip.

Be that as it may, what gives you confidence the data the Lao health authorities are putting out is valid? After all, in Asia most people tell you what they think you want to hear.

 

The Lao data is totally <deleted>. They are too poor to afford the tests, so they did a few to satisfy the WHO and then stopped. No one in their right mind believes a pandemic can produce thousands of cases in Thailand, but the magic Mekong stops the virus in it's tracks. Or a porous land border with China, the country that basically owns Laos now wouldn't have spread the virus all over the country.

12 hours ago, sungod said:

A lot of Rich Lao come over the border to spend money. Medical is a big one.

Most are just middle class. The issue is Lao hospitals are atrocious. Why doesn't the government or a private investor build a decent hospital in that country? Geez...

13 hours ago, Traubert said:

 

How many of the above in Laos?

 

Not many, but plenty of medical tourists and middle class tourists who come across the border for shopping.

5 hours ago, Burma Bill said:

My sentiments as your good self. I now live in Cambodia and I have no desire to return to Thailand. Life in Laos must be similar to here - living in the real world - no bans, curfews, mandatory face-masks, lock-downs etc. Schools still closed but inter-provincial travel now allowed. Like Laos, no doubt, no problems here with visa renewals (simple and easy) and no bureaucratic 90 Day reports or TM 30. As far as I am concerned the border with Thailand can remain closed, other than for trade purposes. I believe Cambodia is not one of Thailand's "bubble" partners.

Yes there are mandatory face mask laws and yes Laos was on lockdown for several weeks AND closed schools 2 months BEFORE Thailand (and also their border with China). They also locked down the Kings Romans casino SEZ, home to mostly Chinese.

In Thailand there are not mandatory nationwide face mask laws - depends on the province, but generally speaking, face masks are only required to enter shops, public transport etc. same in Cambodia. You're in Asia after all - ALL Asian nations have complained about westerners not wearing mask. Cambodia included. BTW nowadays about half the Thai population has stopped wearing masks, except to enter places they are required to.

 

Visa renewals? No issue in Thailand. Laos? No amnesty for foreigners stuck there. 1 month special extensions that need to be paid for. OK I guess.

 

Cambodia - new TM30 like app now.

 

Inter-provincial travel mostly allowed in Thailand now too. I understand Cambodia had the least severe lockdown in ASEAN but don't assume other countries did the same.

 

Please Bill, you make some good posts sometime, but don't use hyperbole making up facts to suit your thinly veiled hatred of Thailand.

 

BTW in your namesake country, Burma, there is still a curfew in place.

15 hours ago, webfact said:

“Initially, we will allow only businessmen, technicians, professors

What happened to mechanics .. they were on the other day .. 

 

15 hours ago, webfact said:

 

Meanwhile, Suwanchai added that the fundamental criteria that both parties under the travel bubble pact must fulfill are: having declining number of domestic confirmed Covid-19 cases

Oh dear .. with the number of cases rising in the country they hold the most how are they gonna wriggle out that one .. 

Edited June 18, 20206 yr by Justgrazing
Sp

Anutin, one of the two seriously loose cannons of this administration. Good luck with his continuation of the dirty farang strategy - will work wonders ???? 

6 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

What happened to mechanics .. they were on the other day .. 

 

Oh dear .. with the number of cases rising in the country they hold the most how are they gonna wriggle out that one .. 

It will change to a percentage of reported cases to the total population of the country.