20 years that I can read this bull5hit ! hahaha....

Thailand will never change ❤️

 

 

Heard it all before. The truly rich would not visit in sufficient numbers. They're not stupid and thousands of destinations have nice beaches. They prefer stable places with non-commie governments. Thailand's best bet at a spectacular revival is to stick to what it is good at and eat a huge slice of humble pie. The people are suffering.

51 minutes ago, greeneking said:

Just a few steps from the Oriental in Bangkok the super rich will be walking on broken paths past noodle soup carts and their debris, barked at by the dogs and welcomed by smiling taxi drivers whose meters don't work.

And face slow journeys through traffic to whichever destination they have decided upon.  There are very few interesting places to go to.  Nowhere is good enough to justify the time it takes to get there.  The shopping often more expensive than if they bought at home.

And I quite like Bangkok.

I suggest Casinos if they want any chance of changing things.

Maybe they'll come for the whores!

1 minute ago, daveAustin said:

Thailand's best bet at a spectacular revival is to stick to what it is good at and eat a huge slice of humble pie.

They don't eat humble pie, they eat somtam!

22 hours ago, rooster59 said:

Thailand Aims to Turn Away From Mass Tourism and Target the Wealthy

Thailand is aiming for many things, it rarely hits the target!!

11 hours ago, BritManToo said:

No, I used to holiday in Spain all the time, fantastic beaches and very clean, beautiful clean and clear water.

Thailand is dirty and every beach I've been to had sand flies.

Me too, and for me there's no comparison, Thailand beats the <deleted> out of Spanish beaches. 

 

And if you stay at a 5 star resort in Thailand with a private beach, well, there's no way any beach in Spain or resort can get even close to it, mainly because beaches in Spain just don't have the natural beauty that Thai beaches have. Even the water is colder in Spain.

 

But anyways, you have your opinion and I have mine, but I'm pretty sure lots of really wealthy people also prefer Thailand over Spain, there's a reason why Thailand is full of high quality 5 star resorts. It's not just backpackers in Pattaya's dirty beaches.

6 hours ago, Ratchsima said:

And Paris and NY for tourist scam, pick poketings, underground smelling like urinal and rude locals also???

 

What do poor /low class/ lowly educated/ rejected farangs in Thailand know about wealthy tourism and rich people?? You all said like you know every rich people around the world. The market is more complex  and bigger than your farang  sad small tiny mind. 

 

Siam Paragon is pretentious for wannabes??? Dont be mad Only because you farang losers here in TVF just dont have money to buy Hermes or Rolex. Just go to their food court is good enough for your class poor farang.

 

You farangs live here in low class society. What do you know about marketing for wealthy tourists and wealthy people?. You pretend to know about classy places and activitieas around the world but you can not afford to join.

 

Wealthy tourist  have thier places in Thailand  where you will never touch. They have been served for decades. Tiny poor 

 farang like you nerver know it.

 

 

I love this post because it really does bring some reality to the comments being made in this thread. Posters trashing Thailand as a destination but claiming to understand what the rich people need and where they go, whilst living here....oh no, Thailand is a sh*t hole and the wealthy would never come here, never mind the fact that I live here and know what rich people want.......the irony of it all.

 

It also magnifies the extent to which many farangs play up the poverty side of Thailand yet never balance it with the the other sides....the poor, the hungry, unemployed and down trodden. Is this a reflection of where they spend a majority of their time and who they hang out with, is that all they ever see  and how come they never see the other side? Whilst there is a segment of poor people in Thailand, just as there is in every country, there is also a very large middle class and an ever growing upper class and there is a lot of wealth inside both those groups and a lot of normal also.

 

Perhaps this is a case of foreigners projecting, they look at them and realise their own circumstances are not as secure as they'd like. Just like the arguments about the strength of the Baht, posters tell us they fear for exports and the tourist trade if the Baht stays strong when really they're saying, jeeze, I wish the Baht would weaken because my lifestyle is getting stretched!

8 minutes ago, Trillian said:

Posters trashing Thailand as a destination but claiming to understand what the rich people need and where they go, whilst living here....oh no, Thailand is a sh*t hole and the wealthy would never come here, never mind the fact that I live here and know what rich people want.......the irony of it all.

If I were rich, I wouldn't be taking holidays here.

I live in a Thai middle class gated village, they're all one or two pay checks from repossession.

 

As for 'circumstances are not secure', I don't think any foreigners circumstances are secure in Thailand, look at all the people who were outside when the borders closed, doesn't matter what VISA they have, nobody is letting them in.

Edited June 20, 20206 yr by BritManToo

2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

If I were rich, I wouldn't be taking holidays here.

That's the thing, rich is a relative term, there's a load of different levels of rich between Bill Gates and Somchai. I know of at least two forum members who have assets in the teens of millions of dollars, that's not unusual in this day and age, both live here to avoid tax and live very nice lifestyles....are they rich?

That Pr!ck Anutin has done the damage, his talk about dirty fallangs. People will look elsewhere.

How can you make something broken even more broken ?

47 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I live in a Thai middle class gated village, they're all one or two pay checks from repossession.

 

26% of people in the UK have less than 1,000 Pounds in the bank, the median in the US is $7,000, it doesn't shock me that Thai people are the same.

7 hours ago, Ratchsima said:

And Paris and NY for tourist scam, pick poketings, underground smelling like urinal and rude locals also???

 

What do poor /low class/ lowly educated/ rejected farangs in Thailand know about wealthy tourism and rich people?? You all said like you know every rich people around the world. The market is more complex  and bigger than your farang  sad small tiny mind. 

 

Siam Paragon is pretentious for wannabes??? Dont be mad Only because you farang losers here in TVF just dont have money to buy Hermes or Rolex. Just go to their food court is good enough for your class poor farang.

 

You farangs live here in low class society. What do you know about marketing for wealthy tourists and wealthy people?. You pretend to know about classy places and activitieas around the world but you can not afford to join.

 

Wealthy tourist  have thier places in Thailand  where you will never touch. They have been served for decades. Tiny poor 

 farang like you nerver know it.

 

 

 

 

 

Are you Thai? Or pretending to be? Or something like @Yinn. Anyway, bs-agendas aside, we should see soon if this proposal works

1 hour ago, Trillian said:

That's the thing, rich is a relative term, there's a load of different levels of rich between Bill Gates and Somchai. I know of at least two forum members who have assets in the teens of millions of dollars, that's not unusual in this day and age, both live here to avoid tax and live very nice lifestyles....are they rich?

I haven't worked since I was 45 (20 years), I don't have millions of dollars.

But can afford a nice house to live in, a younger woman in my bed, and plenty of foreign holidays.

I consider not having to work the very best of lifestyles.

 

Just wish the borders would open so I could continue my foreign holidays.

Edited June 21, 20206 yr by BritManToo

This is a great idea. Make the rich richer and the poor poorer. Or perhaps this idiot thinks the rich medical and business travellers will go to the mom and pop shops to spend money and eat street foods. 

Gotta hand it to them trying to make their idea sound so glamorous though. It's obvious they care nothing about the people in this country. 

5 hours ago, PatOngo said:

Maybe they'll come for the whores!

Everybody else does 

On 6/20/2020 at 7:57 AM, mr mr said:

please do explain how they will get to said destination with *minimal risk* driving on any road in this country ? 

 

wealthy people post wuwu will also be making strategic decisions. 

 

derp derp.

Helicopter. 555555555

On 6/19/2020 at 2:32 PM, rooster59 said:

Once the country’s borders are reopened and so-called travel bubbles are agreed upon, marketing efforts will be geared toward wealthier individuals

Silly man...wealthier individual have a watch like you & Prawit

That means they know this is no time to be in Thailand ????

Millions of Thais survive on the tourist dollar. Those dollars are spread thinly but evenly due to the sheer volume of visitor numbers. What they are proposing is a significant reduction in tourist numbers but an increase in spending by wealthy tourists.

 

I hope that the government is ready to cope with widespread poverty. This will be a catastrophe if it ever happens, which I seriously doubt. Thailand desperately needs foreign income. Whether it comes from old fat farangs or backpackers is immaterial. If they manage to attract the wealthy, that needs to be seen as an additional source of income, not a replacement.

 

However, Thailands recent attitude to expats, who provide foreign income, has shown us that they have no understanding and so the whole affair will be a huge balls up, as usual, or forgotten about.

Reminds me of that song... Dream Dream Dream Dream Dream....   Too many years of scams, filth, pollution and poor tourism development.  Hard to imagine why the wealthy would want to wade through it all. 

Are you kidding, you guys are crazy if you even think that could work, you have <deleted> on tourists for years and <deleted> on expats living here and now you thing you can target the rich, i tell everyone i know not to come to Thailand because the government is not friendly to ferangs and wants us all to bend over to get reamed, it is laughable until things change in the LOS forget it.

It is not hard to create a comfortable environment here for tourists and expats but it is clear to most of us that you do not want us just our money.

On 6/20/2020 at 8:30 AM, Thechook said:

the wealthy don't Holliday in places like Thailand

soo true,budget tourist only here but many will change to vietnam and cambodja,who needs the thai BS

23 hours ago, sungod said:

Speak for yourself, I had a 10 grand bin for lady drinks before all this happened, I had em queuing round the table........ ????

Around the table? Surprised they were'nt queueing out the door and down the street to get a slice of that! ????

Wealthy folks have money its true(but they dont like being ripped off, its how they got their money) so the double pricing may need a re think at the very least and as others have said Thailand needs the jobs before anything else.

23 hours ago, Walker88 said:

This "Tourism Minister" seems to pretend the wealthy don't come to Thailand for the agogos and escorts, as if the wealthy don't have their peccadilloes.

 

Wealth and its often concomitant power allow one to feed one's appetites. He should know, as it's likely many of his fellow leaders have their university age mia nois luxuriating in a Bangkok condo while waiting for 'daddy' to sneak away for an afternoon tryst.

 

Certainly a man of his 'sophistication' knows that the "Gentlemen's Clubs" of London and NY are not filled with truck drivers getting thousand dollar lap dances, but rather $10 million/year Investment bankers and hedge fund managers, i.e., the super wealthy.

 

The well off, perhaps as much or more than anyone, like to get down and dirty.  Birds do it, bees do it, and the uber rich definitely do it.

 

23 hours ago, Airalee said:

Thailand only needs to do two things to make tourism BOOM.

 

1. Embrace and Own the fact that they have some of the best looking prostitutes in the world.

 

2.  Legalize ganja (after learning how to grow something worthwhile...California dispensary quality)

 

Then, market it like crazy in puritanical feminist ridden nations. (Yes...this will <deleted> off the women...but so what?  They aren’t the big spenders here)
 

Advertise smoking a doobie on the beach after hitting up the BJ bars and you’ll have every male from Australia to Timbuktu beating a path to your door.

Yep. 

Just like Cambo then 3000usd to get in and 50000 usd insurance.

That and the Thai 'big spenders' plan is doomed to fail.

Putting a brave face on an utter disaster.

 

On 6/20/2020 at 8:00 AM, Logosone said:

Mallorca tried this without success. There are just not enough rich people. The plebs are the masses, it's where the real money is. Who do you think finances the millions footballers earn? The plebs. It comes from advertising, ie products bought by the plebs.

 

The plebs have huge financial power but don't know it.

Big spender is a relative value.  As the article states, they are looking to get rid of backpackers and busloads of Chinese.  What’s not to like?

3 hours ago, wazzupnow said:

soo true,budget tourist only here but many will change to vietnam and cambodja,who needs the thai BS

Totally untrue.  Not just budget tourists.  

So the high end visitors must choose a resort and stay for a minimum of 14 days before being "allowed " to travel elsewhere. 

Wonder how thats going to work out?