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Don’t put profit before safety by allowing foreign tourists to return to Thailand too soon, warns doctor


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16 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

Yes.

 

You are right but at the moment they are like a child learning to swim.

 

They know there is going to be some unpleasant experiences before they master it, but if they don't take the plunge, when stormy waters hit the economy, they will be a fish out of water or a government out of its depth.

 

They cannot win every time. Either they accept some increase in cases or the economy suffers and stagnates.

 

They need to put it some regulations such as face masks in flight, social distancing where possible, temperature checks, personal hand washing and people being aware of surroundings and large groups.

 

You cannot isolate a nation forever and they won't be able to get all the previous preferential deals with the West as they have had for many years as emerging economies,  as the West has been harder hit than Asia,  and will not be able to subsidise goods and services like they have done in the past.

 

A balance has to be reached between economics and safety.

 

 

 

And which is the priority of the two.

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17 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

Why do people compare Thailand, with no "alleged" internal cases for 33 days, with a country pretty well ravaged by Covid-19 ? It just doesn't make any sense at all.

Ravaged? That describes the roadway carnage in the Land of Safety. How's that for a Thai comparison of death?

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How come this Thai senior doctor with a very negative fearful opinion is listened to and a senior Consultant in the UK' NHS' system' voice is stifled when he said that COVID is not a virus and is not what it is said to be? He said that it is not as contageous nor serious as the flu. So why is his word stopped from being published or seen on You Tube? It does not fit the narrative. What is truly going on? In a country where no more than 60 people in total, all with underlying conditions were labelled as dying from COVID and no cases at all for over a month do they deprive a nation of its living? Just in case you havn' t surmised it by now, this is tyranny bought with your own unrealistc fears in order to control you. Any professional with a decenting voice is silenced when they stray from the narrative. Only a country of sheeple would shackle themselves in this way. "Question everything, especially those who would rule over you". History bears out the fact that unquestioned power leads to totalatarian rule and suffering. When yoi cannot question a narritive not produce evidence to the contrary without it being sensored, then you have to question the sensors!

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17 hours ago, warcy said:

Thai people are too paranoid. The chances of them dying from road accidents is higher than the virus.

They also have ZERO cases of home grown  Covid! Where are you from, by the way?

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I read these statements from people all over the world talking about money over health. They all say the same thing reading from the same script!  Ask your average Thai how they feel about the shut down how is it impacting their lives 

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16 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

Yes.

 

You are right but at the moment they are like a child learning to swim.

 

They know there is going to be some unpleasant experiences before they master it, but if they don't take the plunge, when stormy waters hit the economy, they will be a fish out of water or a government out of its depth.

 

They cannot win every time. Either they accept some increase in cases or the economy suffers and stagnates.

 

They need to put it some regulations such as face masks in flight, social distancing where possible, temperature checks, personal hand washing and people being aware of surroundings and large groups.

 

You cannot isolate a nation forever and they won't be able to get all the previous preferential deals with the West as they have had for many years as emerging economies,  as the West has been harder hit than Asia,  and will not be able to subsidise goods and services like they have done in the past.

 

A balance has to be reached between economics and safety.

 

 

 

"They need to put it some regulations such as face masks in flight, social distancing where possible, temperature checks, personal hand washing and people being aware of surroundings and large groups."

 

Sorry, but are they not doing that already?

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3 hours ago, patsfangr said:

Even the crude, bombastic Trump is far preferable to the totalitarian socialism of the current Democrat Party in the USA. For those who vote for an agenda, rather than a personality, it's not even close! 

why are you knocking socialism.  i am waiting for the Wall Street fat cats to start jumping out of their windows.  no golden parachutes. ha ha 

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35 minutes ago, Benmart said:

Ravaged? That describes the roadway carnage in the Land of Safety. How's that for a Thai comparison of death?

Agreed, following the logic we should lockdown all road vehicle traffic until there are no accidents for a month or more, then gradually open up..

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4 hours ago, bbi1 said:

The doctor is right, Thailand shouldn't open up it's borders to foreigners for the next few months at least. They should extend the amnesty for current tourists here for another few months as the ones here are guaranteed to be Covid-free and the only source of foreign tourist dollars. When opening up they should only make a travel bubble with countries with low or no local Covid transmissions. Especially don't let the Yanks, Brazilians or others with huge Covid numbers in until the end of 2021 at the minimum, that would be plain stupidity any country in the world did that.

"...for current tourists here for another few months as the ones here are guaranteed to be Covid-free and the only source of foreign tourist dollars...." What do you think, how many tourist diollars are left with those guys?

Enouhg to feed hundreds of thousands of workers in the tourism industries?

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3 hours ago, patsfangr said:

I won't argue American politics with a British liberal. But I do wish that you'd get your facts straight. The specific details that I outlined regarding Trump's actions are absolute FACT! - The travel restrictions; shut down of the economy; nationwide testing; massive manufacture and distribution of testing equipment and PPE; construction of temporary hospital facilities - ALL of these things are FACTS. All initiated and managed by the Trump administration, at a cost of HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS of American tax dollars. If you want to criticize Trump, fine. But have the ethical decency to acknowledge the facts before launching such criticism. 

Waiter...I'll have what he is having!

Make it double!

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British Gov to remove 14 day quarantine to certain countries from 6 July and allow corridors on a traffic light system and Thailand along with some other countries is in the green zone.

It was my understanding that this would only be allowed if they had an reciprocal agreement with the countries concerned, so the doors maybe opening. However this is Thailand so don't hold your breath.

 

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27 minutes ago, sambum said:

"They need to put it some regulations such as face masks in flight, social distancing where possible, temperature checks, personal hand washing and people being aware of surroundings and large groups."

 

Sorry, but are they not doing that already?

When I'm with my Thai wife we stay together. Lately it was Korat for IVF treatments for the past few years. I'm in Thailand every 4 months I work outside Thailand. So not every case is the same 

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2 hours ago, spiekerjozef said:

Agree, not before 2022 please.

I bet you have a few billion baht in the atic, to hand out to waiters, bar keepers, hotel staff, security, sales personal, housekeeping, van drivers, chefs.....that will wait for job to come back in 2 years!

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4 hours ago, patsfangr said:

I am far from a prude, and, no, I won't give examples to prove it. I fully support re-opening restaurants and bars, along with most other businesses, with reasonable precautions required. But I honestly do not understand how "soapy massages" can be called anything other than sexual activities. Anyone care to counter that?

Thats a totally different issue.

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All those countries bordering Thailand will be loving this doctor they will have there arms wide open to all those wealthy western foreigners after all the Chinese and Koreans don’t like spending to much with a bit of luck we will see the value of the £ and $ sore in value giving us long term farangs more for our buck . Keep up the good work doc ????

 

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14 minutes ago, Anna Rak said:

British Gov to remove 14 day quarantine to certain countries from 6 July and allow corridors on a traffic light system and Thailand along with some other countries is in the green zone.

It was my understanding that this would only be allowed if they had an reciprocal agreement with the countries concerned, so the doors maybe opening. However this is Thailand so don't hold your breath.

 

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The U.K. does not have a reciprocal agreement with Thailand if they did my OAP would be increased each year you have also failed to mention the   $100,000 insurance policy stating you are covered for Covid 19 plus the medical certificate requirement no older than 72 hours before you depart stating you are Covid 19 free of the infection . BA cancelled my wife’s July flight back to Thailand so it seems a no go for at least a month or two.

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31 minutes ago, smudger1951 said:

Agreed, following the logic we should lockdown all road vehicle traffic until there are no accidents for a month or more, then gradually open up..

Fab response!

 

Touche!

 

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14 minutes ago, crazykopite said:

All those countries bordering Thailand will be loving this doctor they will have there arms wide open to all those wealthy western foreigners  //

Any proof of that?

As for now there is no country bordering Thailand that has "arms wide open" to receive tourists, and no indication that any of them will do it in a short time...

They all must also have their own doctor giving similar recommandations ????

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