webfact Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Global coronavirus deaths top half a million By Jane Wardell and Cate Cadell A man arrives at Houston Methodist Hospital emergency room on a stretcher amid a coronavirus disease (COVID-19) outbreak in Houston, Texas, U.S., June 28, 2020. REUTERS/Callaghan O'Hare SYDNEY/BEIJING (Reuters) - The death toll from COVID-19 reached half a million people on Sunday, according to a Reuters tally, a grim milestone for the global pandemic that seems to be resurgent in some countries even as other regions are still grappling with the first wave. The respiratory illness caused by the new coronavirus has been particularly dangerous for the elderly, although other adults and children are also among the 500,000 fatalities and more than 10 million reported cases. While the overall rate of death has flattened in recent weeks, health experts have expressed concerns about record numbers of new cases in countries like the United States, India and Brazil, as well as new outbreaks in parts of Asia. More than 4,700 people are dying every 24 hours from COVID-19-linked illness, according to Reuters calculations based on an average from June 1 to 27. That equates to 196 people per hour, or one person every 18 seconds. (To see a Reuters interactive, open this link in an external browser: https://tmsnrt.rs/2VqS5PS) About one-quarter of all the deaths so far have been in the United States, the Reuters data shows. The recent surge in cases have been most pronounced in a handful of Southern and Western states that reopened earlier and more aggressively. The first recorded death from the new virus was on Jan. 9, a 61-year-old man from the Chinese city of Wuhan who was a regular shopper at a wet market that has been identified as the source of the outbreak. In just five months, the COVID-19 death toll is now equal to the number of people who die annually from malaria, one of the most deadly infectious diseases. The death rate averages out to 78,000 per month, compared with 64,000 AIDS-related deaths and 36,000 malaria deaths, according to 2018 figures from the World Health Organization. CHANGING BURIAL RITES The high number of deaths has led to changes to traditional and religious burial rites around the world, with morgues and funeral businesses overwhelmed and loved ones often barred from bidding farewell in person. In Israel, the custom of washing the bodies of Muslim deceased is not permitted, and instead of being shrouded in cloth, they must be wrapped in a plastic body bag. The Jewish tradition of Shiva where people go to the home of mourning relatives for seven days has also been disrupted. In Italy, Catholics have been buried without funerals or a blessing from a priest. In New York, city crematories were working overtime, burning bodies into the night as officials scouted for temporary interment sites. In Iraq, former militiamen have dropped their guns to instead dig graves for coronavirus victims at a specially created cemetery. They have learned how to conduct Christian, as well as Muslim, burials. ELDERLY AT RISK Public health experts are looking at how demographics affect the death rates in different regions. Some European countries with older populations have reported higher fatality rates, for instance. An April report by the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control looked at over 300,000 cases in 20 countries and found that about 46% of all fatalities were over the age of 80. In Indonesia, hundreds of children are believed to have died, a development health officials have attributed to malnutrition, anemia and inadequate child health facilities. Health experts caution that the official data likely does not tell the full story, with many believing that both cases and deaths have likely been underreported in some countries. (Reporting by Jane Wardell in Sydney and Cate Cadell in Beijing; Editing by Tiffany Wu) -- © Copyright Reuters 2020-06-29 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted June 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 28, 2020 So sad but sadder still is the lack of corporation between country’s to fight or at least manage this scourge stay safe and healthy follow safe protocols and don’t fall prey to the (happy talk) from trump and his tools 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pegman Posted June 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 28, 2020 Soon places are likely in store for many more deaths. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Noodle Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Yeah well this was Chicago literally hours ago for "Pride" Those pesky republicans and their 'opening too soon' though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Henryford Posted June 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 28, 2020 Still less than 1% of annual global deaths in a NORMAL year. What's all the fuss about? 3 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 World population nearly 8,000,000,000. Corona deaths ( or at least those attributed to Corona ) 500,000. https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/14-12-2017-up-to-650-000-people-die-of-respiratory-diseases-linked-to-seasonal-flu-each-year Up to 650 000 deaths annually are associated with respiratory diseases from seasonal influenza, If this was a problem exclusively of the "third world" IMO it would be given as much attention as Ebola is given. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DoctorG Posted June 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2020 1 hour ago, webfact said: Health experts caution that the official data likely does not tell the full story, with many believing that both cases and deaths have likely been underreported in some countries. China could well have half a million deaths themselves. We will never know. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorG Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 I was surprised to see that the AIDS-related deaths were still so high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 11 minutes ago, DoctorG said: I was surprised to see that the AIDS-related deaths were still so high. People won't use condoms and do use dirty needles. The drugs to not die cost money not everyone can afford. I'm surprised you were surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 43 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: World population nearly 8,000,000,000. Corona deaths ( or at least those attributed to Corona ) 500,000. https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/14-12-2017-up-to-650-000-people-die-of-respiratory-diseases-linked-to-seasonal-flu-each-year Up to 650 000 deaths annually are associated with respiratory diseases from seasonal influenza, If this was a problem exclusively of the "third world" IMO it would be given as much attention as Ebola is given. I think its important on this to add the full quote on the actual figures: "The new figures of 290 000 – 650 000 deaths are based on more recent data from a larger, more diverse group of countries" If you take the median the average annual figures are far less than 650k https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/14-12-2017-up-to-650-000-people-die-of-respiratory-diseases-linked-to-seasonal-flu-each-year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said: I think its important on this to add the full quote on the actual figures: "The new figures of 290 000 – 650 000 deaths are based on more recent data from a larger, more diverse group of countries" If you take the median the average annual figures are far less than 650k https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/14-12-2017-up-to-650-000-people-die-of-respiratory-diseases-linked-to-seasonal-flu-each-year I fail to see the point you are making. Corona is only a big deal, IMO, because it affects western people. Western countries don't seem to care much about Ebola, and if 500,000 died in D R Congo I doubt it would be more than a one day headline to western news groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: I fail to see the point you are making. Corona is only a big deal, IMO, because it affects western people. Western countries don't seem to care much about Ebola, and if 500,000 died in D R Congo I doubt it would be more than a one day headline to western news groups. The point being that I put the full quote on figures, thats important rather than just the ceiling outliner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deli Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 How many would have died anyhow (soon) cause of co-related illness or being sick already with other deseases ? Number of annual deaths in many countries BEFORE they locked down is not higher than without the Chinese virus but dealing with a flu. It is not killing more people than any annual regular flu. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siamjim Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 how many of those numbers are people died with C19 and those died from C19.... 25%? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thequietman Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 According to new estimates published today, between 291,000 and 646,000 people worldwide die from seasonal influenza-related respiratory illnesses each year. https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2017/p1213-flu-death-estimate.html Just to give us a wider view. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dexterm Posted June 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2020 Hands up those for a Darwin Award! All you need do is.. Not wear a mask Not practise social distancing Shake hands with strangers Attend mass events with like-minded Darwin Nominees and take your medical advice from a leader who suggests injecting yourself with disinfectant and shining a light up your rear. Please help improve the human genome. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncc1701d Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Deli said: How many would have died anyhow (soon) cause of co-related illness or being sick already with other deseases ? Number of annual deaths in many countries BEFORE they locked down is not higher than without the Chinese virus but dealing with a flu. It is not killing more people than any annual regular flu. This, and many of the other posts here are not correct, and here is why: the “excess deaths” stats are surprisingly accurate. It looks at the average numbers of deaths over the last five years over similar time frames and compares them. Doesn’t matter what people die from - so it doesn’t look at testing, who got COVID, if you were hit by a truck - it doesn’t matter. If you look at countries with good reporting of deaths and then deaths from covid, they are pretty close. https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2020/04/16/tracking-covid-19-excess-deaths-across-countries#eid-united-states 1 hour ago, Siamjim said: how many of those numbers are people died with C19 and those died from C19.... 25%? They are distinguishable and recorded as such. https://www.health.org.uk/news-and-comment/blogs/understanding-the-data-about-covid-19-related-deaths https://youtu.be/O4kqQYnYvhA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted June 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2020 6 hours ago, webfact said: About one-quarter of all the deaths so far have been in the United States, A quarter of global deaths in USA ! Can't even fathom the disproportionality of such grim statistic that is happening in the richest and most developed country in the world. Sadly the result of missing leadership and an incompetent government. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodga Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Each year, 1.35 million people are killed on roadways around the world. Every day, almost 3,700 people are killed globally in road traffic crashes involving cars, buses, motorcycles, bicycles, trucks, or pedestrians. More than half of those killed are pedestrians, motorcyclists, and cyclists. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henryford Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: A quarter of global deaths in USA ! Can't even fathom the disproportionality of such grim statistic that is happening in the richest and most developed country in the world. Sadly the result of missing leadership and an incompetent government. You have to question the validity of some figures from other countries. Of the cases with CV19 the death rates vary from 1% to 16%. I can believe that strict safety measures will stop people getting Covid but why such a difference in death rates once they have it. Death rates of those WITH CV19 :- USA 5% Russia 1% Belgium 16% India 3% China 5% Pakistan 2% Brazil 4% UK 14% They are obviously fiddled. The USA comes out fairly well, the same as China !! Edited June 29, 2020 by Henryford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimitriv Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Deli said: How many would have died anyhow (soon) cause of co-related illness or being sick already with other deseases ? Number of annual deaths in many countries BEFORE they locked down is not higher than without the Chinese virus but dealing with a flu. It is not killing more people than any annual regular flu. You cannot know that. You do not know how many people would have died without lock downs. With a normal flu there are no lock downs, with the China virus there are. So you cannot compare the numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 14 minutes ago, Henryford said: You have to question the validity of some figures from other countries. Of the cases with CV19 the death rates vary from 1% to 16%. I can believe that strict safety measures will stop people getting Covid but why such a difference in death rates once they have it. Death rates of those WITH CV19 :- USA 5% Russia 1% Belgium 16% India 3% China 5% Pakistan 2% Brazil 4% UK 14% They are obviously fiddled. The USA comes out fairly well, the same as China !! No doubt that each country has different way of reporting of mortality rate but how death counts due to covid-19 are the same in all countries. Sarah Caul head of mortality analysis at ONS explained this well. "The issue us not really about right or wrong but about each source of data having its own strengths & weakness. This is not necessarily a source of discrepancy between most countries though as many are counting deaths in the same way. Italy counts any deaths of patient who had covid19 as a death caused by covid19; so does Germany and Hong Kong". https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200401-coronavirus-why-death-and-mortality-rates-differ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimitriv Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 19 minutes ago, Henryford said: You have to question the validity of some figures from other countries. Of the cases with CV19 the death rates vary from 1% to 16%. I can believe that strict safety measures will stop people getting Covid but why such a difference in death rates once they have it. Death rates of those WITH CV19 :- USA 5% Russia 1% Belgium 16% India 3% China 5% Pakistan 2% Brazil 4% UK 14% They are obviously fiddled. The USA comes out fairly well, the same as China !! I know in Belgium someone dies from Covid is he displays symptoms from Covid. So you can die from Covid, without being tested positive. In other countries you can die with all symptoms from Covid, but without a test, the official cause of death will be something else. A more reliable way to determine the number of deaths is to look at statistics for several years. And see how much more people died than normally die. And blame the China virus for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dexterm Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, bodga said: Each year, 1.35 million people are killed on roadways around the world. Every day, almost 3,700 people are killed globally in road traffic crashes involving cars, buses, motorcycles, bicycles, trucks, or pedestrians. More than half of those killed are pedestrians, motorcyclists, and cyclists. But road accidents aren't contagious, rise parabolically, and stretch health services to breaking point. Nor do maskless drivers flaunt social norms endangering others by volunteering to be crash test dummies. But you are correct that good guidance and disciplined behavior will lessen the statistics of both. Edited June 29, 2020 by dexterm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcsmith Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, thequietman said: According to new estimates published today, between 291,000 and 646,000 people worldwide die from seasonal influenza-related respiratory illnesses each year. https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2017/p1213-flu-death-estimate.html Just to give us a wider view. Considering that this is in addition to the flu, that it was in a three month span, and that it was with countries taking unprecedented measures to close business, social distance etc. In the U.S. it's closing in one killing twice as many people as the deadliest flu year in recent memory, and it's going to do that in under 4 months total. I think it's time to retire the flu comparisons. Edited June 29, 2020 by jcsmith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 China, first to release the virus...................first to start inoculating its military with a vaccine........mmmmmm ???? "China’s Central Military Commission approved the use of the vaccine by the military on June 25 for a period of one year. CanSino declined to disclose whether the innoculation of the vaccine candidate is mandatory or optional, citing commercial secrets, in an email to Reuters." https://af.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idAFKBN2400S8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 17 hours ago, bodga said: Each year, 1.35 million people are killed on roadways around the world. Every day, almost 3,700 people are killed globally in road traffic crashes involving cars, buses, motorcycles, bicycles, trucks, or pedestrians. More than half of those killed are pedestrians, motorcyclists, and cyclists. Exactly. So why are those on these very pages that demand everyone wear masks and hide in their room not demanding an end to mechanised transportation? Back to Shank's pony to SAVE LIVES. Don't stop there- ban flying as people die in plane crashes; fence off the oceans to prevent people swimming- can't have people drowning; medicate everyone to prevent depression and suicides. Oh, so many things to stop to SAVE LIVES. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 17 hours ago, dimitriv said: You cannot know that. You do not know how many people would have died without lock downs. With a normal flu there are no lock downs, with the China virus there are. So you cannot compare the numbers. Of course we know how many would die without lockdown. We know what the death rate from corona is and we know the people that are likely to die if infected, so if we didn't isolate the vulnerable we can calculate how many will die. If we isolate the vulnerable, hardly anyone would die of it. Many never have more than mild symptoms and some have no symptoms at all. if it wasn't for testing many wouldn't even know they had been infected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 15 hours ago, dexterm said: Nor do maskless drivers flaunt social norms endangering others by volunteering to be crash test dummies. How does a maskless driver infect anyone outside their vehicle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innosiem Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 (edited) 22 hours ago, thequietman said: According to new estimates published today, between 291,000 and 646,000 people worldwide die from seasonal influenza-related respiratory illnesses each year. https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2017/p1213-flu-death-estimate.html Just to give us a wider view. Beat me to it, (although those estimates are not "new", that is from the CDC in 2017, still relevant just the same) Also, for a clearer perspective Roughly 60,000 PEOPLE DIE EVERY DAY globally as normal without any "new" virus. So far in 2020 during the covid periodThe Global Population has INCREASED by more than 40,000,000 People.????♂️Source Edited June 30, 2020 by innosiem 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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