2 hours ago, pegman said:

What a boring debut, but is exactly what that country needs at this point a boring and competent administration. Good luck to Joe and Kamala.

Interesting that you say that.

I think we all know that VP to be elected Harris is capable of being more electrifying and charismatic than potus to be elected Biden. 

But I think she intentionally played a very smart game to let Biden have the spotlight in that rollout event.

She will be electrifying in the campaign but at the end of the day the VP is not supposed to upstage the potus.

To add, personally I think this was the smartest political and also safe choice for Biden.

I think once elected Rice would be a better governing partner than Harris, but that means nothing if you don't win. 

Evicting 45 is job one, for Biden, the democrats, and all decent Americans that want to preserve American democracy. 

3 hours ago, Thailand said:

The next two presidents of the US, an interesting combo.

More than likely. 

8 minutes ago, theonetrueaussie said:

I sorta hope the democrats win...it will be fun watching america burn....Defund the police, open up the borders, no more law enforcement, everything will be free, try and tax the 1% but they will all just move overseas so no more tax money to pay for everything....Globalism will drive all the manufacturing to low income countries....

Let's get real now instead of such alarmist silliness.

 

Biden-Harris is a center left ticket.

 

Neither wants to defund the police.

 

Neither wants open borders.

 

Neither wants no law enforcement.

 

Neither wants everything free. Both are pro capitalism. 

 

Both do want to reverse 45's tax cut for billionaires. Such a move would be popular and justified. It won't happen unless the democrats take the senate.

 

I won't touch the globalism bugaboo. There is a happy medium between toxic isolationist hyper nationalism, especially white nationalism and globalism. 

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

Comparing Biden and Harris, with Trump and Pence, is a bit like comparing George Carlin and Richard Pryor, with Pauly Shore and Carrot top, to use comics as a measurement of caliber. 

 

They are smart, capable, decent, and competent. A far cry from the latter pair. 

 

Trump is cascading toward the biggest humiliation of his lifetime. He is destined for a lifetime of the thing that will hurt him most. Obscurity and irrelevance. 

 

Biden - decent - 55555555555555555555555!

 

Oh, sorry I forgot. It's ok for left politicians to be totally corrupt, line their pockets and those of family and friends. Do as we say not as we do and all that.

Posts containing false information have been removed.   Kamala Harris was born in Oakland, California.    She is a citizen of the US by birth on US soil.

 

 

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Let's get real now instead of such alarmist silliness.

 

Biden-Harris is a center left ticket.

 

Neither wants to defund the police.

 

Neither wants open borders.

 

Neither wants no law enforcement.

 

Neither wants everything free. Both are pro capitalism. 

 

Both do want to reverse 45's tax cut for billionaires. Such a move would be popular and justified. It won't happen unless the democrats take the senate.

 

I won't touch the globalism bugaboo. There is a happy medium between toxic isolationist hyper nationalism, especially white nationalism and globalism. 

 

Are your assertions based on their manifesto, recent comments they made from reputable media or television debates/interviews.

 

Or just an opinion of what you think their policies might be?

12 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Interesting that you say that.

I think we all know that VP to be elected Harris is capable of being more electrifying and charismatic than potus to be elected Biden. 

But I think she intentionally played a very smart game to let Biden have the spotlight in that rollout event.

She will be electrifying in the campaign but at the end of the day the VP is not supposed to upstage the potus.

To add, personally I think this was the smartest political and also safe choice for Biden.

I think once elected Rice would be a better governing partner than Harris, but that means nothing if you don't win. 

Evicting 45 is job one, for Biden, the democrats, and all decent Americans that want to preserve American democracy. 

 

If, as you clearly believe, Biden and Harris are elected, and Republican groups refuse to accept the result, protest, riot, and loot, as some Democrats or Masquerading as Democrats did, how do you think Biden and Harris will handle that compared to Trump. (As both have openly supported BLM protests, they can't really have a Law and Order platform, can they?).

 

If, the Republicans take control of Congress and retain control of the Senate, how would Biden and Harris deal with this? Plethora of executive orders? 

11 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Biden - decent - 55555555555555555555555!

 

Oh, sorry I forgot. It's ok for left politicians to be totally corrupt, line their pockets and those of family and friends. Do as we say not as we do and all that.

Some evidence of biden doing this would be nice.

2 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

If, as you clearly believe, Biden and Harris are elected, and Republican groups refuse to accept the result, protest, riot, and loot, as some Democrats or Masquerading as Democrats did, how do you think Biden and Harris will handle that compared to Trump. (As both have openly supported BLM protests, they can't really have a Law and Order platform, can they?).

 

If, the Republicans take control of Congress and retain control of the Senate, how would Biden and Harris deal with this? Plethora of executive orders? 

I would think Trump has used up all the paper in the Whitehouse issuing all his executive orders.

7 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

If, as you clearly believe, Biden and Harris are elected, and Republican groups refuse to accept the result, protest, riot, and loot, as some Democrats or Masquerading as Democrats did, how do you think Biden and Harris will handle that compared to Trump. (As both have openly supported BLM protests, they can't really have a Law and Order platform, can they?).

 

If, the Republicans take control of Congress and retain control of the Senate, how would Biden and Harris deal with this? Plethora of executive orders? 

I have no idea how Biden Harris would react to 45 if he refuses to leave office after losing and riles up his armed crazy base. That is unprecedented in American history. We haven't had a wannabe fascist dictator before. Another reason that horribly corrupt man has got to go! All decent Americans realize that including many republicans. (See the LINCOLN PROJECT).

There is no chance the republicans will take over the house in this election. 

They may narrowly hold on to the senate.

I don't think you can abolish a major tax law such as the 45 tax cut for billionaires with an executive order.

Obviously it will be difficult for Biden - Harris to get very much changed if they don't control the senate, but at the very least the wannabe fascist dictator will be gone.

Edited August 13, 20205 yr by Jingthing

5 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

If, as you clearly believe, Biden and Harris are elected, and Republican groups refuse to accept the result, protest, riot, and loot, as some Democrats or Masquerading as Democrats did, how do you think Biden and Harris will handle that compared to Trump. (As both have openly supported BLM protests, they can't really have a Law and Order platform, can they?).

 

If, the Republicans take control of Congress and retain control of the Senate, how would Biden and Harris deal with this? Plethora of executive orders? 

How many executive orders has trump done.

1 minute ago, Sujo said:

How many executive orders has trump done.

Yes and in all seriousness the 45 regime has expanded presidential powers to a historic level. It would be naive to assume that the democrats would not use at least some of those new powers when they are in power. Is this good? Do I like that? No! Such powers should have never been expanded in the first place. 

22 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Biden - decent - 55555555555555555555555!

 

Oh, sorry I forgot. It's ok for left politicians to be totally corrupt, line their pockets and those of family and friends. Do as we say not as we do and all that.

Judge Biden by his enemies.

 

And Trump by his friends.

 

 

1 hour ago, Isaan sailor said:

Let’s see, who endorses or supports this new Biden/Harris ticket?

DNC, of course.  George Soros, I think.  Hillary Clinton, I’m sure. Revolutionary Communism USA, yes.

BLM, maybe.  Antifa, maybe. CCP, most likely.

 

Well I am sure we can say that non of this lot will ......

 

 

They clearly have much higher standards .....

12 minutes ago, Sujo said:

How many executive orders has trump done.

And how many were screwing the middle and working class?!

45 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

So you, and the 6 intellectuals who liked your post, actually believe that Trump was responsible for most of the bad things in the past (get real) and bad things that will happen in the future - an admission you think he'll be re-elected??

Even if he is not reelected he will be president until 19th January 2021.

That's still 159 days. So if he only f$$#$# up once a day that's 159 time too many.

And I really don't want to think about how Trump will behave once he is beaten but still in power.

8 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Even if he is not reelected he will be president until 19th January 2021.

That's still 159 days. So if he only f$$#$# up once a day that's 159 time too many.

And I really don't want to think about how Trump will behave once he is beaten but still in power.

this is an opinion piece;  

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/507070-press-trumps-final-presidential-pardon-himself

Edited August 13, 20205 yr by Opl

49 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I have no idea how Biden Harris would react to 45 if he refuses to leave office after losing and riles up his armed crazy base. That is unprecedented in American history. We haven't had a wannabe fascist dictator before. Another reason that horribly corrupt man has got to go! All decent Americans realize that including many republicans. (See the LINCOLN PROJECT).

There is no chance the republicans will take over the house in this election. 

They may narrowly hold on to the senate.

I don't think you can abolish a major tax law such as the 45 tax cut for billionaires with an executive order.

Obviously it will be difficult for Biden - Harris to get very much changed if they don't control the senate, but at the very least the wannabe fascist dictator will be gone.

Biden's already addressed this would be "Must see TV"

https://www.thedailybeast.com/biden-says-military-will-remove-trump-from-the-white-house-if-he-refuses-to-leave

A real team player ,biden is, a all for America duo!

Never let a crisis go to waste!

 

As if, by miracle, the dynamic duo,could do any better with the same fauci team !!!

It will be a miracle if this administration with stands bidens, Marxist and socialist supported onslaught  of sanders ,aoc and telib  !

 

Marxist source

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/13/politics/bernie-sanders-james-carville-criticism/index.html

 

 Socialist  source

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Democratic_Socialists_of_America_members_who_have_held_office_in_the_United_States

 

 

Edited August 13, 20205 yr by riclag

1 hour ago, theonetrueaussie said:

I sorta hope the democrats win...it will be fun watching america burn....Defund the police, open up the borders, no more law enforcement, everything will be free, try and tax the 1% but they will all just move overseas so no more tax money to pay for everything....Globalism will drive all the manufacturing to low income countries....

 To your point!  I would say the dems that I grew up with, wouldn't let most of what you said happen! But now they (including these two) have gone radical left!

26 minutes ago, riclag said:

A real team player ,biden is, a all for America duo!

Never let a crisis go to waste!

 

As if, by miracle, the dynamic duo,could do any better with the same fauci team !!!

It will be a miracle if this administration with stands the Marxist and socialist supported onslaught  of sanders ,aoc and telib  !

 

Marxist source

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/13/politics/bernie-sanders-james-carville-criticism/index.html

 

 Socialist  source

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Democratic_Socialists_of_America_members_who_have_held_office_in_the_United_States

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Neither Bidden or Harris are endorsed / supported by Democratic Socialists of America, quite the opposite. Given they both have operated in a really challenging political environment, I would expect them to be able to stand on their own two feet. Some Americans appear to have an extraordinary fear of anything that is not "right of centre", quite weird.

 

Regards Fauci it's been trump and co who have constantly attempted to undermine him. it will be great to see Fauci working with the Dems, can anticipate a much more constructive working relationship than with the trump world.

Edited August 13, 20205 yr by simple1

2 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Neither Bidden or Harris are endorsed / supported by Democratic Socialists of America, quite the opposite. Given they both have operated in a really challenging political environment, I would expect them to be able to stand on their own two feet. Some Americans appear to have an extraordinary fear of anything that is not "right of centre", quite weird.

 

Regards Fauci it's been trump and co who have constantly attempted to undermine him. it will be great to see Fauci working with the Dems, can anticipate a much more constructive working relationship than with the trump world.

In other words, only an idiot appoints a committee then disregards and undermines their expert conclusion.

4 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Neither Bidden or Harris are endorsed / supported by Democratic Socialists of America, quite the opposite. Given they both have operated in a really challenging political environment, I would expect them to be able to stand on their own two feet. Some Americans appear to have an extraordinary fear of anything that is not "right of centre", quite weird.

 

Regards Fauci it's been trump and co who have constantly attempted to undermine him. it will be great to see Fauci working with the Dems, can anticipate a much more constructive working relationship than with the trump world.

I never said that ,stop changing what I said ! they are supported by members of that party and I listed them!

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Yes and in all seriousness the 45 regime has expanded presidential powers to a historic level. It would be naive to assume that the democrats would not use at least some of those new powers when they are in power. Is this good? Do I like that? No! Such powers should have never been expanded in the first place. 

Historically untrue, sort by executive orders per year  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_federal_executive_orders

16 minutes ago, riclag said:

I never said that ,stop changing what I said ! they are supported by members of that party and I listed them!

 

 

Not trying to 'change' anything, Bottom line they are not endorsed - very big difference and a high level of push back by some members.

 

Again, why the extraordinary fear, not as though actual socialists / communists will achieve power in the USA

Edited August 13, 20205 yr by simple1

22 minutes ago, expat_4_life said:

Historically untrue, sort by executive orders per year  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_federal_executive_orders

Your link refers to numbers, the text you quoted refers to expanding of powers 

8 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Exactly why nobody should vote for her, as the mad BLM matter agenda is a recipe for a complete looting anarchy

They don’t vote for VP ????

29 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Not trying to 'change' anything, Bottom line they are not endorsed - very big difference and a high level of push back by some members.

 

Again, why the extraordinary fear, not as though actual socialists / communists will achieve power in the USA

Can’t be worse than now

13 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Your link refers to numbers, the text you quoted refers to expanding of powers 

go ahead an pretend that this was not all in response to "How many executive orders has Trump done"

  2 hours ago, Sujo said:

How many executive orders has trump done.

2 minutes ago, expat_4_life said:

go ahead an pretend that this was not all in response to "How many executive orders has Trump done"

I think the post you quoted refers to expanding powers, not numbers. But since it wasn't my post I can't speak for it.

I can tell you though that in numbers Trump is at about 2/3 of Obama, Trump in less than 4 years, Obama in 8.