On 9/3/2020 at 7:49 AM, Maha Sarakham said:

As screwed up as some of our Western countries are, I see stuff like this and I'm grateful not to have been born into some of these lawless atrocities of civilization.

Don’t assume your own nation can’t go the same way.

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Don’t assume your own nation can’t go the same way.

 

Of course they could. But, generally, they aren't as rampant with such stuff (vs. own citizens, at least). And further, you're more likely to have some legal recourse or that things will be exposed. In Western countries, people do not regularly disappear, suffer accidents or end up with Novichok in they systems for criticizing the government.

trumps take on this poisoning...the Kremlin will be pleased. 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/05/donald-trump-casts-doubt-on-navalny-poisoning-saying-us-hasnt-had-any-proof?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Edited September 5, 20206 yr by Bluespunk

1 hour ago, Bluespunk said:

trumps take on this poisoning...the Kremlin will be pleased. 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/05/donald-trump-casts-doubt-on-navalny-poisoning-saying-us-hasnt-had-any-proof?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

I wish trump would explain why he so often jumps to the defense of Russia

No question that King Vlad was behind it. Something like this does not happen without state sponsorship, Russia is a despot (dictatorship) nation hellbent on killing it's critics, and Putin is known to be a serial killer. He long ago lost the right to consume oxygen. Will anyone do anything about it?

Edited September 5, 20206 yr by spidermike007

5 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

No question that King Vlad was behind it. Something like this does not happen without state sponsorship, Russia is a despot (dictatorship) nation hellbent on killing it's critics, and Putin is known to be a serial killer. He long ago lost the right to consume oxygen. Will anyone do anything about it?

Nope. Boris even put a Russian in the House of Lords.

3 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

trumps take on this poisoning...the Kremlin will be pleased. 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/05/donald-trump-casts-doubt-on-navalny-poisoning-saying-us-hasnt-had-any-proof?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Yep, the traitor won't risk angering the boss.

On 9/4/2020 at 7:52 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

Don’t assume your own nation can’t go the same way.

Particularly the USA. It's well on the way.

On 9/3/2020 at 9:27 AM, bert bloggs said:

Yes Merkel does ,she was born a communist and loves Putin.

She was born a communist? Did they baptize her into the Communist party at her birth?

On 9/3/2020 at 11:21 PM, dieter1 said:

first question should be:
who will profit from this ?
answer............
I do not think this is what the Russion governement wants. They know exactly, how "the west" will react.

Because Putin has demonstrated in the past that he fears Western reaction to his gambits?

8 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

trumps take on this poisoning...the Kremlin will be pleased. 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/05/donald-trump-casts-doubt-on-navalny-poisoning-saying-us-hasnt-had-any-proof?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Trump pretends to be hard on Russia. Meanwhile he is completely beholden to the master of blackmail, Putin.

What will the emotional state of Kasparov these days? Scared or jealous? I think the latter ...

Same as in Thailand, rogue elements. I doubt Putin is giving his approval to this, but then I doubt he's trying too hard to crack down on it.

5 minutes ago, nausea said:

Same as in Thailand, rogue elements. I doubt Putin is giving his approval to this, but then I doubt he's trying too hard to crack down on it.

It  could be if the poison were something more easily available. But this is not a poison that's easy to come by.

People poisoned by KGB so far:

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Perepilichny

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Litvinenko

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Vladimirovich_Kara-Murza

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgi_Markov

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Politkovskaya

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyotr_Verzilov

- and many others, including well known https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_of_Sergei_and_Yulia_Skripal

 

now guess why Putin always drinks from his very own tea mug :D

 

2 hours ago, nausea said:

Same as in Thailand, rogue elements. I doubt Putin is giving his approval to this, but then I doubt he's trying too hard to crack down on it.

 

I doubt Putin allows rogue elements that much freedom. It that was the case, he'd probably bust some just to remind them who's boss, and not to take such actions on their own initiative.