Thailand to Finalize Entry Plan for Foreign Visitors by October

[PumpkinEater]

I hope they open to long term folks...why not?

[bristolgeoff]

I will sit back and wait and see what happens after oct.I think dec or jan maybe better.wanting to get out like many others who can not get back yet

[Guderian]

A few weeks ago, when they were touting the "Phuket Model", they claimed that foreign tourists were already queuing up to buy places in the September tourist stampede. All those poor folk must be pretty cheesed off at the delay until November or December, you might think it would cause them to say something unpleasant about TAT and the tourism ministry and look elsewhere for their winter dose of vitamin D. But apparently not, if you believe TAT (hah!) they're still queuing and champing at the bit for the off on the latest plans. <rolleyes>

[connda]

16 minutes ago, GeorgeCross said:

 

you don't have anyone vulnerable close to you that you worry about infecting?

 

i have vulnerable parents. i'm happy to take it but not to give it to them

 

 

Your parents are vulnerable to the seasonal flu and other seasonal respiratory infections as well.  Did you worry about infecting them with a cold, or flu, or pneumonia before March 2020?  My guess is no. 
What's different other than governments world-wide rolling out "experts" to tell you that Covid may not kill you but granny and gramps are sure to die if you don't social distance and wear a mask 24/7, all the while allow Big Tech giant unregulated permission to censor any other "experts" who don't support the WHO/CDC "Covid is going to get you all" narrative.

By the way.  Before anyone climbs on board to call me a heartless monster who wants to kill granny and grandpa - I am Grandpa! 
Free society is being torn down and replaced with literal totalitarianism, and economies and the economic lives of billions are being destroyed for what is no worse that a seasonal flu.  And folk just obey their "leaders" and go along with the trip into the abyss.

[meechai]

46 minutes ago, Cali farong said:

I still can’t understand why people who are healthy and in good shape are so scared of the virus are you afraid of every other way to die.  Every day is a <deleted> shoot.  If I had diabetes and weighed 350 pounds or breathing problems or ??? I’d be very cautious.  But the rest of us don’t need a mask and should keep on keepin on.  IMO 

Cannot speak for others but my wife & I are not afraid of the virus at all....We know 99.999% it would not be a problem for us as we are in great health

 

That said regarding the current requirement to travel to our Thai home....

we are not willing to jump thru so many hoops & conditions. Then should we be infected due to the crazy system they now have in place we will be at "Their" mercy & stuck in a hospital & our insurance charged what ever they deem fair? To be released when they deem releasable?

 

For us the juice is just not worth the squeeze.

We lived many years in Thailand & now just stay 3 months a year at our Thai home.

We are not worried & know it will be there in a year or two when this all blows over.

 

But it is Thailand in our humble opinion that may have to worry about what to do with their economy due to the lack

of other more normal visitors

[hottrader77]

5 hours ago, sammieuk1 said:

Forget it at the 14 day quarantine stage with a myriad of boltons no one will come unless you pay for it end of story ????

WHO IS GOING TO PAY 100,000 BAHT for 14 day quarentine when they have come on a 2 week holiday 3 weeks , 4 weeks 2 months , i would not even pay it if i was coming on a 6 month holiday and what if yoiu want to go to philippines or cambodia or somewhere else when you come back to thailand you have to pay 100,000 baht again ????????   these brainless bafoons have no idea only to line their greedy army pockets 

[kiwikeith]

4 hours ago, madmen said:

Great news for retirees , condo owners etc 

This is not great news,as if LOS opened the doors tomorrow where would you get a flight, unless a repat flight and they all cost big money, South African Airways has returned most of it's fleet to the lease company and only has 4 planes flying, 2 of these are hauling freight, Thai airways are bankrupt, are they going to fly to NZ to pick up a load of Kiwis who would go into quarantine-- have to pay for it, then get another exorbitant price fare home and go into quarantine again for 14 days and have to pay, the expats returning would not fill a plane from here.

[JesseHumphry]

Why are they still pushing this moronic idea? Nobody's gonna bite. 

[2 is 1]

Try to go some way forward this idiotic "entry plan" it chance every month. November only chance name and same bla bla bla continue! Get one flight for next month and sell place whit whole package! Include all, flight ,ASQ hotel, insurance etc.

If that kind plane going to be only few people you can forget hole sht!

Even one time get your head out of place where sun not shine TAT!

Edited September 10, 2020 by 2 is 1

[LEKPHUKET]

So many desperate tourists there are not in the world. The bkk puppets still not understand that 2 weeks quarantine is not acceptable. 

[Crusader]

How many times now have they said this same thing?????

[rupert the bear]

why the quarantine?thais dont do it,they need a fit to fly paper no virus free test,so tourists are being put thru hoops for thailands benefit so they can be ripped off at the hotel quarantine.few takers id say .just people separated from family loved ones and work permit people.a covid free test with in 72 hrs and a quarantine till the airport test bkk side is neg is enough and that quarantine can be done at home .not in rip off land.what is the matter with govt here why so self deluded.your known the world over as incompetent corrupt and racist but you dont have to prove every day of the week ,do yourself your country and the world a favour,take a day off

Edited September 10, 2020 by rupert the bear

[Sean60]

This plan is doomed right from the begging.

Rethink and come up with a new plan which dose not have quarantine .

you are welcome to contact us dirty Falangs for ideas and suggestions.

By the way looks like the christmas's and newer high season will not be a high season.

Congratulations.

Almost one year of lockdown with no vaccine in sight. Where is the point thai government would say enough is enough and open the borders?

[hioctane]

16 minutes ago, kiwikeith said:

This is not great news,as if LOS opened the doors tomorrow where would you get a flight, unless a repat flight and they all cost big money, South African Airways has returned most of it's fleet to the lease company and only has 4 planes flying, 2 of these are hauling freight, Thai airways are bankrupt, are they going to fly to NZ to pick up a load of Kiwis who would go into quarantine-- have to pay for it, then get another exorbitant price fare home and go into quarantine again for 14 days and have to pay, the expats returning would not fill a plane from here.

Obviously when a country officially announces a reopening, airlines will start queuing up.

 

I guarantee there will be enough wanting to go even with the restrictions. It will be a good test run before reopening to broader tourism.

[raccos21]

[Raphael Hythlodaeus]

58 minutes ago, Chicken George said:

we will be waiting for a vaccine before borders will truly open.

Might be a long wait. Haven't seen one for another coronavirus called the common cold and even the flu vaccine is reckoned to be only 40~60% effective (CDC says only 29% effective for the 2018~2019 flu season).

However, a vaccine, however ineffective, might provide political cover for muddle-headed governments everywhere to open up tourism.

[AussisAussieAussieOiOiOi]

3 hours ago, mrwebb8825 said:

They should now introduce the "Prepaid Future Fun Act" where you send them 10,000-20,000 baht now and they will add your name to a list so when you finally do get to come next year they will make sure you have loads of fun at a 25-30% discount. 

It appears they have... Buy Elite visa now, get an extra 6 months later ! https://www.thailandelite.com/at-your-service?locate=en&popup=false

[SbuxPlease]

Lot of people here just ripping on this idea as insufficient, but... the country has to start somewhere. They might as well start giving ideas a try and learn something along the way. An alternative plan that doesn't require any quarantine would mean the health infrastructure for the rest of the country would have to be vastly improved to accept, deal with, and isolate the inevitable new cases that would start to show up.

 

Thailand's tourism industry is a multi billion dollar cash cow, I hope they are putting "top minds" on the project, but this is the kind of thing where even a very small amount of infections creeping in - if not perfectly handled (which I think we can agree has a high probability) - could serve to wreck the other 85% of the economy along with it.

 

I'm not sure anyone in the world has the right answer, but I do commend efforts to do something now.

[Grusa]

1 hour ago, Tidybeard said:

streets and sidewalks becoming overgrown with opportunistic plants...

That's not a very nice thing to say about Cha Cha and friends!

[spidermike007]

Only those few, who are sitting on fortunes of hundreds of millions, or billions of baht, could be this impervious to the fortunes of the masses, millions of whom are utterly crushed by the lack of international tourism. How callous. How indifferent. How paranoid, cowardly, timid, and mind numbingly uncreative. 

[Skallywag]

4 hours ago, Grumpy John said:

people with money are smart enough to go somewhere else

I think most "tourist" destinations/countries all have restrictions, or quarantines at present.  If they do not, you are risking your health and those of the people who you come in contact with. 

 

[scoupeo]

6 hours ago, sammieuk1 said:

Forget it at the 14 day quarantine stage with a myriad of boltons no one will come unless you pay for it end of story ????

Richard B would come ! To be able to visit the usual ridiculous useless places that he already visited hundreds times...

 

[Bender Rodriguez]

people with half a brain cell left will go to a destination (nearby) that does not require 14 days quarantine , 100k usd insurance (scam - for the tylenol they give you )

[outsider]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Thailand is planning to reopen to long-term foreign visitors to help revive an ailing tourism sector and save millions of jobs.

 

Just get your mainland Chinese brothers and sisters back. They're easier to control. They don't go anywhere their tour bus doesn't, they stay within the flock and only eat at predetermined places. Just stock up enough prawns at your buffet lines. Leave the dirty and pesky foreigners out of your grand plans. You don't like them anyway.

 

[Megasin1]

Will this be before, or after the coup. I dont want to put a downer on things but a coup could delay this a bit. Could they do a presentation board with a timeline. It would just help to clarify whats happening when.

[XBroker]

Nothing will improve from here. This isn't about a any virus. Hope you like where you are now.

[kiwikeith]

39 minutes ago, rupert the bear said:

why the quarantine?thais dont do it,they need a fit to fly paper no virus free test,so tourists are being put thru hoops for thailands benefit so they can be ripped off at the hotel quarantine.few takers id say .just people separated from family loved ones and work permit people.a covid free test with in 72 hrs and a quarantine till the airport test bkk side is neg is enough and that quarantine can be done at home .not in rip off land.what is the matter with govt here why so self deluded.your known the world over as incompetent corrupt and racist but you dont have to prove every day of the week ,do yourself your country and the world a favour,take a day off

Thais returning do have to go into 14 day quarantine, but it is free for them.

Most cases of c19 are returning Thais tested in quarantine, same as NZ there was 17 positive cases off one flight of NZ'ers returning from india, found/ tested days later in quarantine this week'

If a country opens its doors the virus will flood in, all the evidence and scientists agree, you will not keep it out, if you open the doors.

 

The only way most people hope that this can happen is when a vaccine is approved and released.

Economic experts are trying to predict how long each airline can last. Thai and American Airlines did not make the list, they were mentioned as sitting beside each other at the bottom of the scrap heap, waiting for a miracle.

 

As for stupid plans, if you read and search the entry conditions for each country in the world , most are locked down, China is just as stringent as Thailand.

NZ and Australia are locked most countries are locked at present, except in europe where the young can travel from the UK to Spain, have a drink up then return to England and spread the virus around, this was the case last week, the virus is rampant now all over the world, India now leading the infection rate.

The death rates and hospitalisations have gone right down, so---- who will win? the vaccine will arrive or the virus will dye over the next 6 months, better treatments are now being used, maybe it will become a virus no worse than the flue in the months to come.

In the meantime those of you who can stay in LOS,  -- enjoy the clean beaches and hospitality.

I won't be coming back until the airlines start up which may be anytime between 6/12 months-- or who knows maybe longer , I hope 6/12 months.

So enjoy you guys.

[agood1963]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Thailand is planning to reopen to long-term foreign visitors to help revive an ailing tourism sector and save millions of jobs.

At huge expense sorry Thailand i do not think many will be taking up your offer , they better come up with a cheaper idea which don't mean keeping the elite in supreme comfort .

[Tongue Thaid]

_{Wow finally they have it all worked out,can’t wait to get there,,do I still need my insurance and fit to fly certificate and invitation from the Thai embassy,but alas I don’t think there are any flights up there.<deleted>}

[david555]

5 hours ago, madmen said:

Great news for retirees , condo owners etc 

It is anyway for some the only opportunity as a chance to come in again and start selling all they have in Thailand...take some losses , but recover the big , and  after....say by by Thailand 

 

As else they would risk to have property or money on a far distance