It's very revealing how TWO measles-RELATED deaths (not caused by it) are blown up out of all proportions by the Pharma-paid US media.

Jeff Childers free daily Newsletter provides a very good overview of what is actually happening: a desperate attempt. Here some excerpts from the article:

> Here we go again! How stupid do they think we are? How stupid are they? It won’t work. Not this time. No points this round. Yesterday, CNN was one of the first to report, “Two unvaccinated people in Pennsylvania are first measles-related deaths in US this year.” Measles-related. That was the last time corporate media included “related.” By evening, the reporting had been salted with media misinformation, and, e.g., Reuters reported, “Pennsylvania reports first US measles deaths this year as outbreak grows.”

. . .

Reporters pressed the health officials to explain what, exactly, the murky term “measles-related” means? I am not making this up, but the officials initially refused to clarify the term. Only under continued pressure did they finally concede that “measles-related” means: “laboratory or epidemiologic evidence of measles is present, but the official cause of death is under investigation.”

Um. So … what exactly are we even talking about here? Unofficial causes of death? People who died with measles? Sigh. Here we go again. But alas, the virus was already out of the barn.

. . .

Before I continue, let’s pause and recognize this is a disease that almost everyone got and that American moms and dads used to deliberately infect their children with at measles parties. Just saying. Also, there were 193 measles vaccine deaths reported in VAERS since 1995— an average of about 6.2per year. The famous Harvard/Pilgrim study estimated VAERS captures only around 1% of severe adverse events. So, even generously assuming 10% were reported, that comes to an average of 62 measles vaccine deaths per year.

. . .

In all of 2026, until now, there have been zero deaths from measles. Despite the headlines, it remains unclear whether we even have two, but more on that in a minute. The point is: 62 estimated vaccine deaths versus zero disease deaths. (CDC continues to report zero measles deaths for 2026, even after Governor Shapiro’s dramatic announcement. So.)

Oh, fine, I will just say it. I believe this ‘measles outbreak’ is Covid 2.0-lite, rolled out two months before the critical midterms (when Governor Shapiro will be on the ballot, just saying), because the covid go-around was so successful in achieving regime change. Democrats hope it will work again.

. . .

There’s no declaration of emergency this time because nobody really expects any major measles outbreak this time. Instead, it’s just the same exhausted, utilitarian, “community safety” argument, repackaged for 2026, recycled from 2020-2024, with a splash of spicy sauce, and they expect us to listen this time.

For an unremarkable illness that has a barely measurable fatality rate.

It’s not going to work. We’ve already seen this movie ten times. We’ve expressed our preferences and that is that. The most personally annoying thing is that they made me spend most of the morning rounding up this stupid measles story.

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You can read the full article here: https://substack.com/inbox/post/212855738

I, unlike you, think vaccines are a good thing ( not every vaccine and definitely not all mandates) but agree with most of your post. The issue with vaccines is the that there is a segment of society that needs a cause and a herd. They use the cause and the herds strength to pummel any slight argument . You aren't allowed to question and are required to obey the herds doctrine. Pathetic but not much I can do about it. The weak minded will be weak and I accept this reality.

My anger at these types is now a non-issue and they are increasingly becoming irrelevant at the moment and someday they will become powerful again. Tick tock and on we go.....

Unfortunately 2 cases induced by a stupid Health Minister without any connection to science.

There will be coming more, listening and following that brainless (proven) idiot

According to the coroner in the county where they are alleged to have happened, he hasn't encountered any death FROM measles. He only knows of one death by ruptured spleen of a child that also had measles.

It's being discussed on another thread.

In the pre-measles-vaccine era, between 400 and 500 people in the US died each year due to measles. Many more were hospitalized with pneumonia, encephalitis, or other serious complications.

With the vaccine, the number of measles deaths has gone down to a handful as shown in the OP. Same with the complications.

Does the OP really advocate for going back to the pre-vaccine era when hundreds (even more given current population levels) would die?

https://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/history.html

Some would argue that the cost of administering the MMR vaccine is higher than the disease burden on the US economy. But that's not true.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11598708/

Is it possible that increases in communicable diseases could be related to mass illegal migration?

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

Is it possible that increases in communicable diseases could be related to mass illegal migration?

Reminds me of the good old Biden days, when Americans had to be triple-jabbed to lead a normal life but thousands of unvetted illegals would pour in each day…

10 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

Reminds me of the good old Biden days, when Americans had to be triple-jabbed to lead a normal life but thousands of unvetted illegals would pour in each day…

Wait... Didn't Team Biden assure us that the borders were secure?

We dodged an existential bullet in Nov '24.

Can you imagine how bad measles would be?

"In all of 2026, until now, there have been zero deaths from measles".

I wonder what might account for that?

Good to see JFK Jr under the cosh for lying to congress.

Legal action is in the offing after he lied about his visit to Samoa being totally unrelated to measles...........boom!

Those 83 kids might get to see some justice.

On 8/27/2026 at 1:21 PM, newbee2022 said:

Unfortunately 2 cases induced by a stupid Health Minister without any connection to science.

There will be coming more, listening and following that brainless (proven) idiot

Inconvenient Fact Time!

(Pro-jabbers, the floor is yours: it would have been sooo much worse without the vaccine, right?)

Edited August 28Aug 28 by rattlesnake

• 2,777 measles cases as of August 20, 2026

• surpassing the 2,289 cases reported during all of 2025

• hitting multi-decade highs amid declining vaccination rates

• two measles deaths (2026)

• three measles-related deaths (2025)

2 + 3 = 5

Yeah, it's only 5 people, so what*

Things are going swell in America!

USA 🇺🇸 USA 🇺🇸 USA 🇺🇸

*This message has been brought to you by the American Association of the Blind. We don't see anything wrong with totally unnecessary deaths and surging spread of the measles virus. Nothing! Trump is the greatest death cult ever! 🙈

1 hour ago, SiSePuede419 said:

• 2,777 measles cases as of August 20, 2026

• surpassing the 2,289 cases reported during all of 2025

• hitting multi-decade highs amid declining vaccination rates

• two measles deaths (2026)

• three measles-related deaths (2025)

2 + 3 = 5

Yeah, it's only 5 people, so what*

Things are going swell in America!

USA 🇺🇸 USA 🇺🇸 USA 🇺🇸

Compared to Europe, the USA is doing great. And Canada. And Mexico.

Over 100,000 cases in Europe in some recent years. What's the common thread? Mass, unvetted immigration.

Edited August 29Aug 29 by impulse

Seems the main source of index cases of measles is unvaccinated people traveling from the US and returning with measles due to exposure during their travels.

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/04/measles-misinformation-gets-an-immigration-twist/

https://politifact.com/factchecks/2026/aug/27/byron-donalds/us-measles-illegal-immigration-mmr-vaccine-fl/

From the second linked article:

"Dr. William Schaffner, a Vanderbilt Health infectious diseases specialist, agreed, saying “the very substantial majority” of cases are “caused by our own unvaccinated children who go abroad, pick up the measles and then bring it back home.” Only a minority of cases, he said, are caused by foreigners coming to the U.S."

2 minutes ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

Seems the main source of index cases of measles is unvaccinated people traveling from the US and returning with measles due to exposure during their travels.

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/04/measles-misinformation-gets-an-immigration-twist/

https://politifact.com/factchecks/2026/aug/27/byron-donalds/us-measles-illegal-immigration-mmr-vaccine-fl/

From the second linked article:

"Dr. William Schaffner, a Vanderbilt Health infectious diseases specialist, agreed, saying “the very substantial majority” of cases are “caused by our own unvaccinated children who go abroad, pick up the measles and then bring it back home.” Only a minority of cases, he said, are caused by foreigners coming to the U.S."

Fact-checkers, what a hoot.

2 hours ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

Seems the main source of index cases of measles is unvaccinated people traveling from the US and returning with measles due to exposure during their travels.

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/04/measles-misinformation-gets-an-immigration-twist/

https://politifact.com/factchecks/2026/aug/27/byron-donalds/us-measles-illegal-immigration-mmr-vaccine-fl/

From the second linked article:

"Dr. William Schaffner, a Vanderbilt Health infectious diseases specialist, agreed, saying “the very substantial majority” of cases are “caused by our own unvaccinated children who go abroad, pick up the measles and then bring it back home.” Only a minority of cases, he said, are caused by foreigners coming to the U.S."

“caused by our own unvaccinated children"

Our own American unvaxxed children are causing sickness and disease, not dirty foreigners?

Oh my.

I hope They™ can find out who is not vaccinating their children and why ❓

The New Surgeon general is on the case

5 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

Inconvenient Fact Time!

(Pro-jabbers, the floor is yours: it would have been sooo much worse without the vaccine, right?)

If you believe in Santa you're quite right here

5 hours ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

From the second linked article:

"Dr. William Schaffner, a Vanderbilt Health infectious diseases specialist, agreed, saying “the very substantial majority” of cases are “caused by our own unvaccinated children who go abroad, pick up the measles and then bring it back home." "Only a minority of cases, he said, are caused by foreigners coming to the U.S."

Our mate Vandervbilt Billy is a fool. He either don't know what he is talking about or he is $$$ compromised. Maybe compromised in other ways, but my dosh is on the $$$. As most of these fools are.

'Pick up the measles'. What utter nonsense! No!!! It's beyond nonsense; it's pseudoscience.

All just lies and propaganda, all the time.

Not only were the deaths NOT CAUSED by measles — but the newborns were called "unvaccinated" despite being BELOW the age where any baby would even get vaccinated for measles!

Edited August 29Aug 29 by rattlesnake

5 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

All just lies and propaganda, all the time.

Not only were the deaths NOT CAUSED by measles — but the newborns were called "unvaccinated" despite being BELOW the age where any baby would even get vaccinated for measles!

Dr Josh Shapiro seems like a fool to me. Plenty of them about. And he ain't even got a white coat on. These $$$ white-coats never seem to learn.

Measles expresses itself as a natural group of symptoms. Very difficult in mild cases to know whether it is measles, chicken pox or something else.

So the baby was sick in the womb? I'd be looking at what the mother was up to in the 12 months before birth.

RIP little ones.

20 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

So the baby was sick in the womb? I'd be looking at what the mother was up to in the 12 months before birth.

Probably Covid-vaxxed.

19 hours ago, SiSePuede419 said:

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It must be hard to find a gay tailor that's addicted to meth and who does Trailer Park haute couture, which is French for we hire Chinese people to sew this shiny crap together.

The highest estimate of illegal aliens living in the US that I've seen is 15.8 million. I haven't seen data on how many times this population leaves and returns to the US in a year, but I would think that given the difficulty and risks associated with crossing the border without authorization, the frequency would be fairly low. Certainly less than once per year per person. Probably even much lower than that.

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/commentary/us-unauthorized-immigrant-population-new-peak

In contrast, US citizens made 109 million overseas trips in 2025. Even after taking out the 14 million trips to Canada, the total would still be a multiple of the number of entries by illegals in the course of a year. Roughly 40 million US citizens visited Mexico and another five million visited other countries in Latin America, countries where the vast majority of illegal aliens come from. Then there are the others who visited Asia, Africa, and elsewhere where measles is endemic.

https://tourismanalytics.com/usoutbound.html

But sure, measles is primarily brought into the US by illegals, right? /s

6 minutes ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

The highest estimate of illegal aliens living in the US that I've seen is 15.8 million. I haven't seen data on how many times this population leaves and returns to the US in a year, but I would think that given the difficulty and risks associated with crossing the border without authorization, the frequency would be fairly low. Certainly less than once per year per person. Probably even much lower than that.

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/commentary/us-unauthorized-immigrant-population-new-peak

In contrast, US citizens made 109 million overseas trips in 2025. Even after taking out the 14 million trips to Canada, the total would still be a multiple of the number of entries by illegals in the course of a year. Roughly 40 million US citizens visited Mexico and another five million visited other countries in Latin America, countries where the vast majority of illegal aliens come from. Then there are the others who visited Asia, Africa, and elsewhere where measles is endemic.

https://tourismanalytics.com/usoutbound.html

But sure, measles is primarily brought into the US by illegals, right? /s

The vast majority of Americans, and virtually every American over the age of ten are vaccinated for measles and any number of other diseases.

14 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

The vast majority of Americans, and virtually every American over the age of ten are vaccinated for measles and any number of other diseases.

The current percentage of vaccinated Americans is around 91%. That is less than the 95% cited as the level where herd immunity kicks in. If 95% or more of the US population were vaccinated for measles, there would be fewer and smaller outbreaks.

https://www.nfid.org/measles-immunization-in-the-us/

As you mention in your post, vaccination of the American public is the solution.

27 minutes ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

The current percentage of vaccinated Americans is around 91%. That is less than the 95% cited as the level where herd immunity kicks in. If 95% or more of the US population were vaccinated for measles, there would be fewer and smaller outbreaks.

https://www.nfid.org/measles-immunization-in-the-us/

As you mention in your post, vaccination of the American public is the solution.

IMO, herd immunity is a made up thing. Including for something like measles, which is not a disease at all. Not saying there cannot be interaction between people. Much of which we don't understand. Like yawning. Or laughing. We say it's infectious. And what happens when we lock up (don't throw away the key) a bunch of women for 9 months? Nature kicks in and they all start menstruating at the same time. Because nature is only really interested in two things. Survival and reproduction.

We put our faith in the white-coats; believing that they 'know', or at least are in the know. Well I don't think they know much at all. Measles is a bit like a snake shedding its skin. Just a normal process.

Look to nature for the answers.

Let's take a look at the total number of CBP "encounters" in fiscal year 2024. According to their own statistics, this was 2.9 million.

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/cbp-enforcement-statistics-fy2024

For the sake of this exercise, for every encounter let's assume that one illegal immigrant evaded an encounter ("get aways") while crossing the US border. This would give us a gross number of 5.8 million.

I think the majority of the illegals come from Latin America, so let's take a look at measles vaccination rates in this region.

https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/rankings/measles_immunization_rate/Latin-Am/

While some countries' MMR vaccination rates exceed the US's (91%), many are lower, including some of the larger sources of illegal migrants. But for this exercise, let's take Mexico at 80% as kind of a weighted average just for discussion purposes.

If we accept these estimates, that would mean that of 5.8 million encounters plus "get aways" roughly 20% or 1,160,000 would be unvaccinated.

Going back to the number of US citizens visiting this region of about 45 million and an unvaccinated rate of 9%, we get a total of 4,050,000 unvaccinated Americans visiting Latin America. Unvaccinated Americans visiting Latin America outnumber by almost four to one the number unvaccinated illegals entering the US in this scenario.

Edited August 30Aug 30 by Etaoin Shrdlu

13 minutes ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

Let's take a look at the total number of CBP "encounters" in fiscal year 2024. According to their own statistics, this was 2.9 million.

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/cbp-enforcement-statistics-fy2024

For the sake of this exercise, for every encounter let's assume that one illegal immigrant evaded an encounter ("get aways") while crossing the US border. This would give us a gross number of 5.8 million.

I think the majority of the illegals come from Latin America, so let's take a look at measles vaccination rates in this region.

https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/rankings/measles_immunization_rate/Latin-Am/

While some countries' MMR vaccination rates exceed the US's (91%), many are lower, including some of the larger sources of illegal migrants. But for this exercise, let's take Mexico at 80% as kind of a weighted average just for discussion purposes.

If we accept these estimates, that would mean that of 5.8 million encounters plus "get aways" roughly 20% or 1,160,000 would be unvaccinated.

Going back to the number of US citizens visiting this region of about 45 million and an unvaccinated rate of 9%, we get a total of 4,050,000 unvaccinated Americans visiting Latin America. Unvaccinated Americans visiting Latin America outnumber by almost four to one the number unvaccinated illegals entering the US in this scenario.

What are the illegal immigrants doing? All US citizens were once either illegal immigrants or are descendants of.

Why this sudden focus on measles? Just a red herring for sure.

3 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Why this sudden focus on measles? Just a red herring for sure.

Ask the person who started this thread.

2 minutes ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

Ask the person who started this thread.

Measles and immigration! Where is there a connection? And should there be?

Edited August 30Aug 30 by Stiddle Mump