webfact Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 After Pompeo criticism, Vatican asserts right to go its own way on China By Philip Pullella U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo speaks with Vatican's top diplomat Pietro Parolin as they meet at the Vatican October 1, 2020. Vatican Media/Handout via REUTERS ROME (Reuters) - The Vatican's number two said on Thursday after talks with Mike Pompeo that the two sides' positions on China remained far apart and firmly asserted the Holy See's right to pursue an accord with Beijing denounced by the U.S. Secretary of State. Pompeo met Secretary of State Cardinal Pietro Parolin and Foreign Minister Archbishop Paul Gallagher on Thursday on a visit to Rome marked by Vatican irritation over Pompeo's public criticism of a Holy See accord with Beijing on the appointment of bishops. Vatican officials have said they were "surprised" by Pompeo's comments, made last month, and particularly that they were published in a conservative U.S. Catholic publication that has called Pope Francis' pontificate a failure. Parolin, second only to the pope in the Vatican hierarchy, spoke to reporters on the sidelines of a book launch on Thursday night. He was asked if the positions were still distant. "Yes, even though the purpose of the meeting was not to bring the positions closer," he said. In an article and a series of tweets in September Pompeo accused the Vatican of putting its "moral authority" at risk if it renewed an agreement with China over the appointment of bishops. It sparked a minor diplomatic crisis. Vatican officials suggested Pompeo was trying to drag the Catholic Church into the U.S. presidential election by denouncing its relations with China. Pompeo has denied this. "He (Pompeo) explained his reasons for making those statements and we explained our reasons why we intend to move ahead on the path we have already chosen," Parolin said. Parolin said the Vatican "asserts (the right to move forward) with a choice that has been thought through, reflected on, prayed over, a choice the pope has made, therefore the freedom to move forward." The Vatican's two-year-old accord with Beijing gives the pope final say over the appointment of Chinese bishops. Parolin said the Vatican would renew it when it expires this month. Vatican officials say the agreement is not perfect but establishes a dialogue with Beijing after decades during which Chinese Catholics faithful to the pope were driven underground. Parolin said Pompeo had expressed "understanding for the way the Holy See approaches these issues." President Donald Trump has campaigned on his hard line on China ahead of the Nov. 3 election. He is also associated with conservative Protestant and Catholic movements, many of which have been critical of Pope Francis. In an address to a symposium on Wednesday, Pompeo did not directly address the Vatican agreement with Beijing but described China as the world's worst abuser of religious rights. (Reporting By Philip Pullella, Editing by William Maclean) -- © Copyright Reuters 2020-10-02 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzian Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Does the Vatican's accord with Beijing really give the pope final say? I thought that was the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fred110 Posted October 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 2, 2020 Not surprising. The Vatican colluded with Hitler too. 4 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfd101 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 The Vatican - rather like the Chinese - looks to the long-term, which is not governed by democratic election processes. It takes the view - based on long experience with the Soviets, not irrationally but perhaps optimistically - that dialogue is better than standoff & silence. Whether in the process the Vatican made too many concessions only the future will tell. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scott Tracy Posted October 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 2, 2020 The American way or no way...? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayhem11 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 18 hours ago, fred110 said: Not surprising. The Vatican colluded with Hitler too. An idiotic historical comparison that only serves to emphasise the prejudices of the poster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sscc Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Vatican Vs USA 2-0. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred110 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Mayhem11 said: An idiotic historical comparison that only serves to emphasise the prejudices of the poster. Facts are not prejudiced. I like catholics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Drake Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 On 10/2/2020 at 5:21 AM, webfact said: Vatican officials suggested Pompeo was trying to drag the Catholic Church into the U.S. presidential election by denouncing its relations with China. But the Vatican has no problem getting into US politics when it comes to abortion or refugee and immigration policies. Meanwhile, the Vatican is utterly silent about the genocide of Uighurs in China. https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/07/29/pope-francis-xinjiang-uighur-genocide-china-catholic-church/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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