On 10/4/2020 at 9:18 AM, PatOngo said:

On 10/4/2020 at 7:54 AM, TopDeadSenter said:

No need to wait for any credible and authoritative source for this highly inflammatory and potentially very misleading accusation. It is Trump after all. Run with any rumor, make up any nonsense to attack him. His skin color, the size of his hands, his weight. Anything is on the table. No other person on the planet you can do this too. Have fun!

Lyin' Ted, Little Marco, Crooked Hillary, Lock her up, Sleepy Joe, mmmm, now who was it said that, fanboy?

 

"That was nasty. I never said such horrible thing about these nasty people. The most nasty people on the planet, you know it and I know it and the Dems, especially know it. Btw, gimme the remote - and get this damn thing off my face - now, what was that again, woman, man, camera ...and whatelse, Mark?" 

2 hours ago, PattayaJames said:

I am not religious,  but saver of the free world for sure, I will go with that. ????

More like leader of the illiberal world. He's much more Erdogan than a normal American president and that's a crying shame.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/america-is-becoming-a-land-of-less-liberty/2016/12/29/2a91744c-ce09-11e6-a747-d03044780a02_story.html

On 10/4/2020 at 8:47 AM, TKDfella said:

I wish Pres. Trump and his family well and hope they recover soon, as I do for all those who who suffer similarly. VP Biden is, I understand from morning news, is looking to use the opportunity to 'seal' (MSN headline) his bid for office. And why not indeed, he has posted his wishes for the President but there's a job to be done, this is politics and there is no 'time out' here. Stay safe and well, Sir.

It is ironic, Mr. VP Biden, some of your followers here on TV rant on about Pres. Trump being 'this & that' and yet they follow his alleged example in their wishes to condemn him, instead of following your example.

 

That is because, Polly-ann, when you go low, we go lower. Just because we can.

7 hours ago, PattayaJames said:

I am not religious,  but saver of the free world for sure, I will go with that. ????

Stand by, Proud Boys!

Latest news is that he's been thrown out of hospital.

Off-topic posts removed.   Please stay on topic.  

 

10 hours ago, PattayaJames said:

I am not religious,  but saver of the free world for sure, I will go with that. ????

 

Over 200,000 Americans weren't 'saved'.

1 hour ago, Morch said:

 

Over 200,000 Americans weren't 'saved'.

The free world isn't just America.

 

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The free world isn't just America.

 

Yeah, I know you don't 'do' context. Thanks.

6 hours ago, Morch said:

 

Over 200,000 Americans weren't 'saved'.

Quite possibly they were, by Trumps quick and desisive action early on.

 

 

Edited October 6, 20205 yr by PattayaJames

7 minutes ago, PattayaJames said:

Quite possibly they were, by Trumps quick and desisive action early on.

 

 

 

No, they died. Unless you mean 'saved' in a very obscure way, that is.

As for Trump's travel bans (covered on past topics), Chinese and others kept coming in after the 'bans' were in place.

1 minute ago, Morch said:

No, they died. Unless you mean 'saved' in a very obscure way, that is.

 

It's not an obscure way, it was by taking quick and desisive action.

6 minutes ago, PattayaJames said:

 

It's not an obscure way, it was by taking quick and desisive action.

 

Over 200,000 Americans died. They were not 'saved'. Trump's travel bans did not 'save' them.

Which part of the above do you find confusing?

5 minutes ago, Morch said:

Over 200,000 Americans died. They were not 'saved'. Trump's travel bans did not 'save' them.

Which part of the above do you find confusing?

You do understand that lives can be saved despite lives being lost?

Maybe his actions saved millions. 

32 minutes ago, PattayaJames said:

Quite possibly they were, by Trumps quick and desisive action early on.

 

 

 

17 minutes ago, PattayaJames said:

 

It's not an obscure way, it was by taking quick and desisive action.

 

2 minutes ago, PattayaJames said:

You do understand that lives can be saved despite lives being lost?

Maybe his actions saved millions. 

Partially closing borders after the virus was well established in the US may have slowed the spread a little.

 

Other decisive action, such as using the Defense Production Act to increase manufacture of PPE (when was the last time you saw a N95 mask for sell in the US?) would have saved many more lives.  Consistent leadership and unambiguous messaging would have saved more still. 

 

Even now a little leadership by example would help.  Why won't Trump consistently wear a mask and ask others to do so?

19 minutes ago, PattayaJames said:

You do understand that lives can be saved despite lives being lost?

Maybe his actions saved millions. 

 

I understand that 200,000 lives were not 'saved'. Suggest you consult the exchange leading to this and stop with the deflections.

 

As for your claims, addressed numerous times on these topics - that you present them as undisputed facts or ignore input not in line with your narrative doesn't change reality.

 

29 minutes ago, PattayaJames said:

You do understand that lives can be saved despite lives being lost?

Maybe his actions saved millions. 

His non action caused the most deaths in the world from Covid and worse per capita deaths among developed countries. How low a bar you going to bend backwards and surrender to Trump’s idiocy. 

 

3 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

His non action caused the most deaths in the world from Covid and worse per capita deaths among developed countries. How low a bar you going to bend backwards and surrender to Trump’s idiocy. 

 

Yes exactly. His relative Mary accused him of mass murder. I agree though probably not first degree mass murder. He has not only been negligent but intentionally negligent with full knowledge of the mass death consequences.

4 hours ago, PattayaJames said:

You do understand that lives can be saved despite lives being lost?

Maybe his actions saved millions. 

he has been totally and utterly ineffectual in curtailing the pandemic since that one action he took with his travel ban. He has failed spectacularly in the United States response up to an including contracting the virus himself despite being the most protected man in the world and being directly responsible for a large portion of his inner circle being infected as well..all less than a month before a 2020 election that he will lose because he has exposed himself as being ill equipped to lead the nation when the moment was at its biggest. It will be his legacy 100 years from now when historians talk about worst American Presidents of all time.

Edited October 6, 20205 yr by Tie Dye Samurai

5 hours ago, PattayaJames said:

You do understand that lives can be saved despite lives being lost?

Maybe his actions saved millions. 

 

Actually the number could be in the billions. Or let's say the rest of the human race. From the same fountain of idiocy we also got this oxymoron "It is under control as much as we can control it" (Trump, Axios interview.) 

1 hour ago, Tie Dye Samurai said:

he has been totally and utterly ineffectual in curtailing the pandemic since that one action he took with his travel ban.

Which one? 

 

The China one, following which about 40,000 people flew - direct - from China to the USA, or

The Europe one.  All of Europe that is except UK and Ireland, either of which could have easily been used as a steppng stone by anyone who wished.

 

And those two are probably the closest actions he has taken to being in any way effective.

 

PH