Top Thai doctor repeats warnings about opening country to foreign tourists

[Chongalulu]

14 minutes ago, Kaopad999 said:

Currently with so many travel restrictions to many countries, i see this as a great time & opportunity to boost domestic tourism. 

Well they’ve tried that . How close do you think that’ll come to substituting the huge overseas tourist market they had ( look at some current pictures of Phuket,samui etc.) ? Perhaps it’ll be as successful as the STV initiative to Chinese tourists? Lol ???? 

[amdy2206]

It is great for the Hi-so's with plenty of money to speak like that. Lets just ignore the millions losing jobs, their livelyhoods, businesses, homes etc. Negativ economy affects the less well off. The rich will always be fine. And they don't give a damn about the poor.

[Kaopad999]

11 minutes ago, nchuckle said:

Well they’ve tried that . How close do you think that’ll come to substituting the huge overseas tourist market they had ( look at some current pictures of Phuket,samui etc.) ? Perhaps it’ll be as successful as the STV initiative to Chinese tourists? Lol ???? 

You do realize that domestic tourism numbers are actually higher than international ones? 
Sure, it does not bring in as much money because domestic tourists spend less time in one place.
But with the current situation, domestic tourism will naturally increase anyway . It's also up to local business owners to come up with ideas to stimulate it to.
That STV initiative is a joke. It was never going to work

Edited October 12, 2020 by Kaopad999

[ravip]

1 hour ago, Kaopad999 said:

Agree!

If Thailand suddenly decided to open their borders right now, it would only cause a  surge in Covid numbers that would result in the whole country going back in to a full lock down with strict curfews.  That wouldn't  just have an impact on the tourism industry, but also most businesses that cater for locals. Thailand just simply can't afford to take such a risk. 

Very few people understand this. Yes, tourism is important - but not at the expense of the entire country  going on a lockdown - Not only TH. But any country.

We sure will have to live with this COVID-19 for a long time more - so lets get used to it!

 

[Chongalulu]

3 minutes ago, Kaopad999 said:

You do realize that domestic tourism numbers are actually higher than international ones? 
Sure, it does not bring in as much money because domestic tourists spend less time in one place.
But with the current situation, domestic tourism will naturally increase anyway . It's also up to local business owners to come up with ideas to stimulate it too.
That STV initiative is a joke. It was never going to work

The only ‘numbers' that matter are ????- lots of bodies spending less and concentrating it at weekends is counterproductive. Stimulate all you like but there isn’t a sufficiently large enough base of monied Thais ,especially with the spectre of unemployment now in view. This will only be accentuated in the coming (what would have been) high season when wintering western and European countries make up an even larger proportion of a bigger cake . This loss is gonna be a killer after which many establishments will close permanently . Unrest will follow.

[agoodpunt]

most tourist wont travel anyway as before, but a managed opening should be looked at for expats who have commitments and support thai families should be offered

the fancyful ideas be released by thai authorities are insulting

 

[Isaan sailor]

With an overpriced currency, they don’t have to worry about too many foreign tourists coming.  And most western countries have taken a real Wuhan-19 hit to their economies.  Foreign travel probably not foremost in ther planning.

[Kaopad999]

8 minutes ago, agoodpunt said:

but a managed opening should be looked at for expats who have commitments and support thai families should be offered

That i absolutely agree with. They really have been unfair towards that group of people.

Edited October 12, 2020 by Kaopad999

[lkv]

5 hours ago, Kaopad999 said:

Yes Thailand is doing very well. 
Now let's compare to  a country with a similar size population shall we?

 

It's funny you believe those numbers.

 

Do you also believe there is no prostitution in Pattaya?

 

I find it fascinating how the human mind works in many. They realise the Thai government is lying about just everything, but when it comes to covid numbers...NO NO...surely they must be telling the truth.

[ravip]

7 minutes ago, lkv said:

It's funny you believe those numbers.

 

Do you also believe there is no prostitution in Pattaya?

 

I find it fascinating how the human mind works in many. They realise the Thai government is lying about just everything, but when it comes to covid numbers...NO NO...surely they must be telling the truth.

The human mind works the way the owner thinks... no more, no less.

[Mr Meeseeks]

19 minutes ago, Kaopad999 said:

That i absolutely agree with. They really have been unfair towards that group of people.

Expats with Thai families can return.

 

The exception being unmarried foreigners with no kids.

 

They are deliberately excluding retirees as they are high risk for COVID-19.

[ravip]

Just a question to verify facts.

Are all Western countries open freely for ALL tourists?

[Kaopad999]

16 minutes ago, lkv said:

It's funny you believe those numbers.

 

Do you also believe there is no prostitution in Pattaya?

 

I find it fascinating how the human mind works in many. They realise the Thai government is lying about just everything, but when it comes to covid numbers...NO NO...surely they must be telling the truth.

absolutely i do,  otherwise i would not have posted it.

1-  Government  hospitals would have been bursting at the seams if we saw high Covid  numbers here

2- This is Thailand, nothing gets past social media here. if there were so many Covid cases, it would been plastered all over social media by now. 

3- The data to back it up. 

[lkv]

57 minutes ago, Kaopad999 said:

absolutely i do,  otherwise i would not have posted it.

1-  Government  hospitals would have been bursting at the seams if we saw high Covid  numbers here

2- This is Thailand, nothing gets past social media here. if there were so many Covid cases, it would been plastered all over social media by now. 

3- The data to back it up. 

1 - Do you work at the hospital?

 

Here in Europe in the midst of the infection ICU is still 50% empty. I bet in Thailand, occupants of the ICU suffer from anything else other than covid, most likely viral pneumonia.

 

2. Those sort of "fake news" would be punishable under the Computer Crimes Act, for whoever dares. But Thais generally buy the "no covid story" better. It's only pesky foreigners that question things. It's our culture. Another reason they want less of us in the Kingdom.

 

3. Data is whatever they want it to be.

Edited October 12, 2020 by lkv

[Benmart]

7 hours ago, Phuketshrew said:

The biggest threat right now is through Thailand's porous land borders with neighbouring countries not from properly tested and quarantined foreign tourists.

Seems the biggest threat is on the roadways. From a few days ago. "The bus was travelling from Samut Prakan province to a Buddhist temple in Chachoengsao when the collision happened". Twenty lives were snuffed out when a train hit the bus. Priorities?

[oompie69]

14 hours ago, Kadilo said:

Glad you are doing Ok Jack. 
 

Thailand is doing far from fine economically as you will notice if you remove your head out of the sand. 

Might not be in the sand, but a bit closer to home!????

[agoodpunt]

9 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

Expats with Thai families can return.

 

The exception being unmarried foreigners with no kids.

 

They are deliberately excluding retirees as they are high risk for COVID-19.

not all retirees are in the risk catagory.

I suspect its an opportunity to speed up there demise

If this policy remains those who can tuff it out will eventually feel the heat while some have parents, family and business in UK if anything happens and they have to go back they are screwed.

 

[FarFlungFalang]

18 hours ago, Kaopad999 said:

Yes Thailand is doing very well. 
Now let's compare to  a country with a similar size population shall we? 



 

UK Tests               27,831,743

Thailand Tests          977,854

That's a difference of 27  million.

Edited October 12, 2020 by FarFlungFalang

[ravip]

22 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

UK Tests               27,831,743

Thailand Tests          977,854

That's a difference of 27  million.

Would that make the difference in the number of deaths?

[Kaopad999]

2 hours ago, FarFlungFalang said:

UK Tests               27,831,743

Thailand Tests          977,854

That's a difference of 27  million.

More Covid Symptoms =  more tests

& as mentioned above by Ravip,  look at  the death count. you simply can't deny that.
 

Edited October 13, 2020 by Kaopad999

[Mr Meeseeks]

2 hours ago, FarFlungFalang said:

UK Tests               27,831,743

Thailand Tests          977,854

That's a difference of 27  million.

Sounds like you'd be better off in the UK if you have more confidence in their handling of the COVID-19 crisis.

 

Personally I will remain in Thailand where the virus has been and is being controlled much more effectively.

 

The Thais success in handling the crisis is much to the chagrin of some of the posters here it seems. 

I suppose when you've been on here for years moaning about Thai incompetence and heralding your own country's superiority in every regard, this must come as a real shock to the system. 

 

????

[Gjk7777]

Not a fair comparison UK over 27 million tests, Thailand not even 1 million, Thailand are not doing the tests = No infections. Better find a different comparison...

Edited October 13, 2020 by Gjk7777
Wrong number of tests

[Gjk7777]

16 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

Sounds like you'd be better off in the UK if you have more confidence in their handling of the COVID-19 crisis.

 

Personally I will remain in Thailand where the virus has been and is being controlled much more effectively.

 

The Thais success in handling the crisis is much to the chagrin of some of the posters here it seems. 

I suppose when you've been on here for years moaning about Thai incompetence and heralding your own country's superiority in every regard, this must come as a real shock to the system. 

 

????

Do you really honestly believe the figures from Thailand are true? Just the other day 15 people who flew from Thailand to Japan tested positive.

Edited October 13, 2020 by Gjk7777

[Stargeezr]

I agree with the top doctor that Thailand should still be cautious and keep the

14 day quarantine, as well as the checks in place. The STV, should be available to

any one who wants to come to Thailand for 3 months or more, as long as it is

reasonably priced, and the 90 day checks are done in country without a need to

run to any border for any reason. It is time to get rid of that old rule that a border run

is necessary for any visa.                                                                                                                   I do hope that the Thai government does make it as easy

as possible for anyone who wants to come to Thailand for 3 months or more. Reasonable

medical insurance requirements, a reasonable quarantine hotel to stay in in almost all

mid size or large cities in Thailand, especially if they are located on the coast.

    I believe that Thailand will be lucky if they get a total of 1 million people this Winter.

Most of those will be retired people who have both the time and money to travel

out of their countries, and can spend at least 2 or 3 months away from the cold of Winter.               Most working aged people are still just trying to get their credit cards

paid down, as well as their mortgages and car or truck loans. This is still the new reality and

the new normal that everyone talk about these days.

Geezer