10 minutes ago, Whale said:

Tourism will bounce back quite quickly, there is a demand. The BIG issue is the entry requirements, they are WAY too much for any "tourist".

500,000 baht in the bank for 6 months.....

18 hours ago, Sean60 said:

The government will have the borders closed for over 2 years? No compensation to business owners? I guess the militant government loves this. Control the people peop 

Early next year open. No 2 years. Dreaming dont listen to rubbish. There will be riots well before and election 

18 hours ago, DavisH said:

If 90% is accurate, and needs to be verified with more tests, then this is a very high percentage for a vaccine. Most flu vaccines are 50-60%. Noone is forcing you to take a vaccine - but I reckon it will be made a requirement to be able to enter Thailand, and probably many other countries. Or a test to should you have antibodies to the virus. 

No intention to come back thailand.It was dead in the water before covid.

19 hours ago, geisha said:

Ridiculous ! Rubbish! Anti vaccin gang is getting to you. 

Says you.I suggest you look what is in the vacines.I AM IN NO GANG.I am a private individual researcher.

7 hours ago, ourmanflint said:

Hardly. It means that of the 10% that still caught Covid, mortality will be same as it is now, so less than 1% overall. Simply put, deaths will drop by 90%

 

You're right but we also need to factor in the concept of herd immunity.

 

If 90% cannot catch it or transmit it, your chances of catching it if you are in the 10% the vaccine doesn't work for, drop by 90%. If the R rate is 3 as it currently is in London say, it will become 0.3.

 

The math's indicate that the herd immunity the vaccine creates will kill of the transmission completely the same way lockdown is reducing your contact and making the R rate below 1.

 

Transmissions will then decrease in the same way it is increasing, exponentially, until it completely disappears.

 

The issue is will everyone in the World be immunized There will be pockets where the vaccine is not available or will be too expensive.

 

Or places where the Government claim they have no virus but in reality they are lying about their figures.

 

And the logistics of immunizing the World are huge. 

 

However we did it with Smallpox so I see now reason why we cannot irradiate this in the same way. But think years not months.

 

The next question is how to we deal with mutations as they will be the reason it resurges when it changes into a form the vaccine antibodies do not recognise. But we are better prepared and more ready this time to deal with this.

 

It's going to be a long and ongoing fight but the math's indicate it will be possible to eliminate it long as people stop eating bats or wearing mink coats.

1 hour ago, Thomas Hannah said:

If 90% is accurate, and needs to be verified with more tests, then this is a very high percentage for a vaccine. Most flu vaccines are 50-60%. Noone is forcing you to take a vaccine - but I reckon it will be made a requirement to be able to enter Thailand, and probably many other countries. Or a test to should you have antibodies to the virus.

 

1 hour ago, Thomas Hannah said:

No intention to come back thailand.It was dead in the water before covid.

 

 

With you on that one mate!!

22 hours ago, Darkside Gray said:

But there are vaccines and are being rolled out next month!

though looking good so far the main issue (if totally greenlit) will be the -70 temp it requires to keep viable. The company announced today they're working on a 'powder form' which will avoid this extreme handling requirement - imo until this is accomplished or another one comes along, it won't make a big difference considering the majority of the world population won't have the capability of dealing with this issue. Buy stocks in companies that make dry ice.. 

On 11/10/2020 at 4:42 PM, nchuckle said:

It’s delusional to imagine domestic tourism can make any meaningful impact to offset the loss of huge foreign tourism ,especially in relation to the now defunct high season. This is only exacerbated by the huge inequality  here where wealth is concentrated in a small section of society. Mass tourism from the average Thai is simply not affordable and only set to worsen as the economy inevitably suffers from the global downturn. The entire infrastructure is centred around foreign tourism and not easy to downgrade to match cheap entertainment venues you might see upcountry. 

 

 

OK let me give you a choice.  

 

You have a business your family depends on it.  Tourism around the world is down.  Tourism to Thailand is non existent

Now you can keep your business closed pay rent but make no money or you can revamp your business and get what you can from the domestic tourism market.

I am not saying that this will save the world or that it will make up for the lost drunken Brit and Aussie market.  BUT it would be better than nothing if you take a place like walking street and turn it into something that Thai people would go to and support.

 

Let's face it walking street was dying a slow death before COVID.  The one thing I do know is that there is a market out there a lot of university kids go to Pattaya to party.  Why not cater to them or to families looking for a place to go that does not have all the working girls.

 

History has shown that if you build a good product for the local people that once the tourists are allowed and financially able to come they will do so and they will go to the same locations that the Thais went to if done right.