1 hour ago, Loiner said:

When they are non-problems there’s nothing to mount up. The total is still none. 

The FOCO have advised that nobody should travel anywhere unless it's absolutely essential,that basically means it's almost impossible to get insurance.Brits will need medical insurance after 31dec.My neighbor here in the Netherlands wants to go to Spain but the French will turn his car back at the border,non essential travel.After 31 Dec Brits will need a Covid free certificate to enter the Netherlands, that's if they deem your trip essential! I think Spain and Portugal will just let Brits in as normal but if the UK government starts any shenanigans that might all change.You will need medical insurance,pets will need certificates for rabies etc,international drivers license,banks may impose charges as may phone company's though they say they won't! Passports will need to be valid for six months and any extra months that got added when you renewed your passport will not count.My passport was issued on 22-03-2015 it expires on 22-11-25 but according to EU law it's only valid 10 years from the date it's issued,that's 22-3-2015 It needs to be still have six months to run to allow me to enter the EU so in reality it's only good untill 22-09-2014.It may be a problem so check your passport if you want to travel in the EU.

 

 

 

Edited December 11, 20205 yr by adammike
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So, we will need Visas to enter France if we intend to stay for more than 3 months?

 

Oh dear, what a shame, never mind eh?

34 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Not the empire no.

But you do sit there and celebrate your English exceptionalism though dont you. 

Just because you Scots do that,don’t tar all us English with the same brush

24 minutes ago, adammike said:

22-09-2014.It

That should be 2019.

18 hours ago, kingdong said:

lets hope the uk stops all benefits for eu citizens living in the uk,we,ve got enough home grown ponces and dossers without having to import them.

Lets hope that the UK also stops paying benefits to EU citizens living in the EU. Many came to the UK, claimed benefits and then went home still receiving benefits. Been going on for years.

Having said that, I met a Brit in Thailand a few months ago who boasted he'd never paid any income tax or NICs yet was living and travelling here very comfortably on pension credits and rent benefit. Fiddled to the tune of £300+ per week.

UK has been a soft touch for too long. Time to impose more stringent entry requirements.

 

1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:

No problem for you or no problem for everyone else?

No problem for everybody. It's all Remainer project fear nothingness.

1 hour ago, adammike said:

The FOCO have advised that nobody should travel anywhere unless it's absolutely essential,that basically means it's almost impossible to get insurance.Brits will need medical insurance after 31dec.My neighbor here in the Netherlands wants to go to Spain but the French will turn his car back at the border,non essential travel.After 31 Dec Brits will need a Covid free certificate to enter the Netherlands, that's if they deem your trip essential! I think Spain and Portugal will just let Brits in as normal but if the UK government starts any shenanigans that might all change.You will need medical insurance,pets will need certificates for rabies etc,international drivers license,banks may impose charges as may phone company's though they say they won't! Passports will need to be valid for six months and any extra months that got added when you renewed your passport will not count.My passport was issued on 22-03-2015 it expires on 22-11-25 but according to EU law it's only valid 10 years from the date it's issued,that's 22-3-2015 It needs to be still have six months to run to allow me to enter the EU so in reality it's only good untill 22-09-2014.It may be a problem so check your passport if you want to travel in the EU.

 

You are getting your covid restrictions mixed up with your three month visa requirement. All your Remainer moaning is not even worth mentioning to the general UK population. If, or eventually when, you go on holiday just get prepared - simples. Alternatively if it is all too much for you, don't go.

7 hours ago, andyg75 said:

I don’t know what the problem is with some of you non Brits ,I think it’s because your country has no history of anything worthwhile and you are so jealous of our history that you keep bringing it up. I have lived in the UK all my life except for he last 12 years and never heard the empire mentioned  by friends,workmates or anyone else.. What do you think we do in pubs every night ,drink to the past and say “ Cheers here’s to the empire” 

I am not British and I respect that country very much.  Many English people in this forum for which I have deep respect ... Even if I have to read idiots saying stupid things like the one you said ...Perhaps, if you had more culture, you would know that there are countries close to yours, with more history than your mind can understand. Read more about the History and  matures a bit.

Edited December 11, 20205 yr by Tarteso

Of course what we don't know is whether this will be reciprocal, with the French being required to do the same to come to the UK for more than three months, or whether it is the French, (quite uncharacteristically) being awkward. What is more, as France is within the Schengen Zone, wouldn't it have to be a Schengen Visa?

 

Could I be cheeky, and suggest that perhaps, just perhaps, the French real estate industry has been lobbying for this - scenting some rather nice restored properties in the Dordogne and Provence at fire sale prices?

 

"Sacre Bleu mes amis, ça ne peut pas être le cas"!

6 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

 

...or whether it is the French, (quite uncharacteristically) being awkward.

 

 

Made me laugh. You've got great humour!

 

6 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

Of course what we don't know is whether this will be reciprocal, with the French being required to do the same to come to the UK for more than three months, or whether it is the French, (quite uncharacteristically) being awkward. What is more, as France is within the Schengen Zone, wouldn't it have to be a Schengen Visa?

 

Could I be cheeky, and suggest that perhaps, just perhaps, the French real estate industry has been lobbying for this - scenting some rather nice restored properties in the Dordogne and Provence at fire sale prices?

 

"Sacre Bleu mes amis, ça ne peut pas être le cas"!

"Could I be cheeky, and suggest that perhaps, just perhaps, the French real estate industry has been lobbying for this - scenting some rather nice restored properties in the Dordogne and Provence at fire sale prices?"

Because of a visa requirement like this? Highly doubtful.

Yes, it would be Schengen.

Just now, stevenl said:

"Could I be cheeky, and suggest that perhaps, just perhaps, the French real estate industry has been lobbying for this - scenting some rather nice restored properties in the Dordogne and Provence at fire sale prices?"

Because of a visa requirement like this? Highly doubtful.

Yes, it would be Schengen.

That last comment , about the real estate, was a little bit tongue in cheek!

 

Mind you, it is the French...

Edited December 11, 20205 yr by herfiehandbag

40 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

 

Could I be cheeky, and suggest that perhaps, just perhaps, the French real estate industry has been lobbying for this - scenting some rather nice restored properties in the Dordogne and Provence at fire sale prices?

 

 

I think there's a couple of Remainer posters who have aspirations to be the next Dick Strawbridge & Angel Adoree and can see their chateau dreams disappearing. Sorry Monsieur Dick, you did not bother to sort out your residence formalities, so your property is not accessible to you anymore.

Others may already have restored their own tumbled down gites or holiday homes and are appalled at the prospect of their status quo and long weekends being ended.

11 hours ago, Proboscis said:

Indeed. That would come into the negotiation. But what should also trouble the UK is the number of EU agriculture workers they depend on to plant and harvest crops. This dependence might actually grow in a no-deal Brexit as food imports become more expensive. THe UK will have to decide whether to allow a visa exemption to those East European agriculture workers or to grant them work visas.

 

Here's a thought...  With millions of Brits currently out of work, why don't they hire locals?  Sure, they may have to pay them a decent wage.  But with imports becoming more expensive, they can afford it and stay competitive.

 

13 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Here's a thought...  With millions of Brits currently out of work, why don't they hire locals?  Sure, they may have to pay them a decent wage.  But with imports becoming more expensive, they can afford it and stay competitive.

 

Only imports from the EU may become dearer, from elsewhere cheaper.

 

It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas.????

5 hours ago, Loiner said:

You should ask your EU countries the question in a more specific way. “Do you still want the UK’s tourist business?”

Start with Spain, Portugal and Greece. 

You think, those British pensionario's will prefer the foggy and wet Tiny Islands ?  A simple semi-automatic prolongation of visa based on.. sufficient means, health insurances and/or property ? With a right to stay and to own, different as in Thailand.

Why you think, an automatic visa of 3 months will be given to British ? Simply: spend your holiday money in our warmer member states.

4 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

Can you eat sovereignty?

Also please explain how the UK ever lost sovereignty while being in the EU.

The Brexiteers simply donot habe an idea how the EU works.

That the ONLY cremium, where decisions are taken = EU council, consisting of the heads of government of the EU member states, till 31 dec 19: inclusive the British PM. Now, Bris can wait till somebody wants to see him.

The EU Commission, a kind of preparing and executing committee, with a commissioner form each member state. They make up the presentations to the EU council, so .. Ursula Von der Leyen has to make a report of her meeting with Boris, so the EU council can decide. Same Barrier.

The EU Parliament, till last year also 2ith 75 UK members.

 

The Brexiteers think, just like in UK, somebody first has to be elected one vote before the others, in.. barony Three Cottages on Ditch, to be clever enough to negotiate. For the rest, just as in the UK, all employees are appointed. 

On 12/10/2020 at 12:46 PM, Upnotover said:

It seems they can get in for for tourism for 6 months without, which seems not fair enough.

Same rule as for all non-EU countries. You can get a 90 day extension.

4 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

So, we will need Visas to enter France if we intend to stay for more than 3 months?

 

Oh dear, what a shame, never mind eh?

When I cross the impenetrable, heavily defended, uncrossable Belgium-Dutch or the German-Dutch border, I need nothing. Not a half day to get a visa, simply: NOTHING. Same for all inter EU borders, from Tallinn to Cadiz .

Edited December 11, 20205 yr by puipuitom

1 hour ago, vogie said:

Only imports from the EU may become dearer, from elsewhere cheaper.

 

It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas.????

Ah... you think sea transport costs nothing, and lasts just a 2 hours (financing the cargo during the trip + having reserves seen not so just-in-time supply anymore ?

1 hour ago, puipuitom said:

You think, those British pensionario's will prefer the foggy and wet Tiny Islands ?  A simple semi-automatic prolongation of visa based on.. sufficient means, health insurances and/or property ? With a right to stay and to own, different as in Thailand.

Why you think, an automatic visa of 3 months will be given to British ? Simply: spend your holiday money in our warmer member states.

 

11 hours ago, Victornoir said:

 

You should ask yourself the question in a more subtle way.

Do you think that the nations of the EU need or want your visit? M. Barnier 's answer on behalf of the 27 seems clear: Stay home.

 

So, are Spain, Portugal and Greece encouraging UK tourists, or is M. Barnier telling them all, on behalf or the 27, to Stay Home? You euros had better get your acts together, because you can't even agree on TVF.

The vote had to be respected. Of course it will be hard for a couple of years, we all know that, and some will complain bitterly. But in the long run Britain will be better off. I have complete confidence in the British to come out on top. 

4 hours ago, Loiner said:

 

You are getting your covid restrictions mixed up with your three month visa requirement. All your Remainer moaning is not even worth mentioning to the general UK population. If, or eventually when, you go on holiday just get prepared - simples. Alternatively if it is all too much for you, don't go.

I only got my passport dates mixed up.i was pointing out the things that will definitely be different for UK passport holders.

Also I passed on the FOCO advice about passports.just rein your neck in a bit.

5 hours ago, puipuitom said:

When I cross the impenetrable, heavily defended, uncrossable Belgium-Dutch or the German-Dutch border, I need nothing. Not a half day to get a visa, simply: NOTHING. Same for all inter EU borders, from Tallinn to Cadiz .

THose crossings are empty because no one wants to go there,simple.

Who cares. The UK can demand the same of the EU.

11 hours ago, Tarteso said:

I am not British and I respect that country very much.  Many English people in this forum for which I have deep respect ... Even if I have to read idiots saying stupid things like the one you said ...Perhaps, if you had more culture, you would know that there are countries close to yours, with more history than your mind can understand. Read more about the History and  matures a bit.

That’s a bit pompous of you to say I have no culture as you don’t even know me.And there is more culture than I can understand.

11 hours ago, impulse said:

 

Here's a thought...  With millions of Brits currently out of work, why don't they hire locals?  Sure, they may have to pay them a decent wage.  But with imports becoming more expensive, they can afford it and stay competitive.

 

That is a thought that has already been played out. When covid restrictions kicked in earlier this year, the eastern Europeans were not able to come to work at the beginning and the growers tried to hire locals. Of course, by locals is not meant people living nearby but people from the UK. It was thought that the unemployment caused by covid would create an army of willing agricultural workers. Unfortunately the numbers who showed up were disappointingly small. And they did not have the manual skills that the east Europeans have. Eventually, the restrictions were eased so that plane loads of east Europeans were allowed to enter the UK to do the work.

12 hours ago, puipuitom said:

When I cross the impenetrable, heavily defended, uncrossable Belgium-Dutch or the German-Dutch border, I need nothing. Not a half day to get a visa, simply: NOTHING. Same for all inter EU borders, from Tallinn to Cadiz .

Well if that's your argument. Nah I will still leave. Enjoy your freedom of movement with every Tom Dick and whoever.

2 hours ago, Proboscis said:

Unfortunately the numbers who showed up were disappointingly small. And they did not have the manual skills that the east Europeans have.

Manual skills what are these exactly. I admit that some UK people have a virus called 'lazyitious' but bending over and picking up things, I didn't realise they were better trained.

 

2 hours ago, Proboscis said:

Eventually, the restrictions were eased so that plane loads of east Europeans were allowed to enter the UK to do the work

Have you any links for this. I would be intrigued to see some evidence other than a hunch.

Croak,  Croak.  ????