Successful 1 Year "o" Visa Extension (final Stamp)

[Badbanker]

Well today it finally happened! After going back to Immigration at Suan Plu, 3 times with top hat in hand, and being very polite, and being told, sorry your visa is not finished yet, I was told to come back on the exact day stamped in the passport which is tomorrow.

By chance the Maybach was in the vicinity of Suan Plu and so I asked the help to drive in circles around the immigration building while I went in so see if there had been any further progress!

After putting my passport in "the basket with the requisite queue number attached" and getting my Queue number, I sat down and waited for what seemed about 4 hours! After about 15 mins I saw the passport go out and come back and then straining my eyes to read up side down (standard banker skill) I saw the man stamped 15 April 2008 into my passport. What is going on now? I arrived back from Savannakhet on the 16th of January and I extended my visa on the 10th of April and now they have give me effectively an 11 month extension.

I was shell shocked and asked the very lovely lady that was signing my passport why this was so! In the past whenever I was given a first extension on a 3 month non imm "o" it was for 9 months and then on the 1 year anniversary of first entry date, that was the day I went and got my extension.

The very lovely lady said "it is new policy to stretch out your visa and give you a full one years extension for your 1,900 baht. What is happening here is rational and is almost unbelievable, not something anticipated!

Is this the norm, or did I get something else that was not on the books.

At this point I went back to Somchai and several other people at various desks in immigration, even the one who did not know that is was possible and waied her and thanked her for assisting me in the successful extension of my visa. She seemed as surprised as I and said congratulations “yin dee na ca”.

So, at 3.45, back to the Maybach and the waiting chilled Champagne whispering a very serious silent prayer to God for giving me this visa. It can be done independently, even by a bad banker.

BB

[Sunny Valentine]

Congratulations!

You're a lucky man!

Sunny

[Krub]

Well done !

[talatnat]

Thanks for all the info, Badbanker. Good show.

[Badbanker]

Thanks for all of your encouragement.

The purpose of my posting is to let everyone know it can be done independantly and to give tips about my success.

I am still shell shocked that they gave me 1 year from the 15th of April. Can't explain it! Hope it is given to everyone else?

A very relaxed (no more visa runs for 13 years) Badbanker

[justSumGai]

A very relaxed (no more visa runs for 13 years) Badbanker

This I don't understand. It's an extension on non im type O right? I need to find this stuff out, my gf just informed me she thinks marraige is a good idea, heh.

[Badbanker]

A very relaxed (no more visa runs for 13 years) Badbanker

This I don't understand. It's an extension on non im type O right? I need to find this stuff out, my gf just informed me she thinks marraige is a good idea, heh.

If you are 50 years old and have a child with Thai nationality you may apply for a non imm type "O" visa and extend it yearly in thailand till the child is 21.  As my son is 8 I don't have to do a visa run till he is 21 which is another 13 years of non visa run bliss.

The really good good thing about this visa is that there is no financial requirement! I mean, I don't have to take a personal loan once a year from HSBC, to cover the cash they want to see in my account and I don't have to show monthly income from abroard. Very nice conditions! Just turn up once a year with the required documents.

Just being married to your wife puts you under a different visa bracket.

Badbanker

PS Actually, I sort of miss have to go to some uncomfortable locale every month or couple of months to apply for a visa with all the other poor people.   Miss the 25 baht bottles of GOOD Lao beer.  Things like that!

Edited June 4, 2007 by Badbanker

[Lite Beer]

Well done B B . Great news. Will give a lot of hope for others with your curcumstances.

I maybe nit picking but I thought the term was To live with your Thai child, not to support him/her. Hence no need for the financial proof.

Whatever , good luck.

[astral]

If you are 50 years old and have a child with Thai nationality you may apply for a non imm type "O" visa and extend it yearly in thailand till the child is 21. As my son is 8 I don't have to do a visa run till he is 21 which is another 13 years of non visa run bliss.

After 21 you may well find that he can sponsor you.................

[Khun Jack]

Quote Badbanker: Just being married to your wife puts you under a different visa bracket.

I got in december my one year extension for staying with my Thai child and I am married with his mother.

[Badbanker]

Quote Badbanker: Just being married to your wife puts you under a different visa bracket.

I got in december my one year extension for staying with my Thai child and I am married with his mother.

Sorry!   What I was trying to say was that if you are married and don't have a Thai child you fall into a different catagorie which is the route of showing family monthly taxed income of 40 k!

Bandbanker

[justSumGai]

If you are 50 years old and have a child with Thai nationality you may apply for a non imm type "O" visa and extend it yearly in thailand till the child is 21.  As my son is 8 I don't have to do a visa run till he is 21 which is another 13 years of non visa run bliss.

The really good good thing about this visa is that there is no financial requirement! I mean, I don't have to take a personal loan once a year from HSBC, to cover the cash they want to see in my account and I don't have to show monthly income from abroard. Very nice conditions! Just turn up once a year with the required documents.

Just being married to your wife puts you under a different visa bracket.

why do all answers raise more questions? TIT? Ok, so you have to be 50 or over for this? and you'll have to start making visa runs again at 63 ?

Also, I recall talk of having to have combined 45k income you and wife, but someone said she has to show it and pay taxes on it?

is there no sane way for husband and wife to remain together in Thailand? (farang/Thai, I know thai hubby and wife can do this )

a poster above seems to think he has no problems and same deal I guess even tho the child is his wifes. Does this mean you must have child in home with both? My indended's parents take care of her two boys about 5 hr north of Bkk and she works to support them on housekeeper wages in guesthouse/hostel. ALSO the non immigrant multi entry I read about where you get a year (when applied for at home country embassy or out of Thailand?) and a 3 month extension....these can not be gotten year after year just renew? or is there a finite number of times one can do this?

I do like the above part about no financial requirements as I would be putting much of what I have into helping her support parents and sons.

hold onto your hats gang, I have even more questions

I would love for there to be support group meetings in Bkk lol, in ADDITION to this helpful site. Maybe a club with leather covered chairs I'd love to be able to at least buy helpful members a drink.

really appreciate all (accurate and clear) info. The other is ok too, just sorting thru it is like a crossword puzzle at times, haha

[Lite Beer]

If you are 50 years old and have a child with Thai nationality you may apply for a non imm type "O" visa and extend it yearly in thailand till the child is 21.  As my son is 8 I don't have to do a visa run till he is 21 which is another 13 years of non visa run bliss.

The really good good thing about this visa is that there is no financial requirement! I mean, I don't have to take a personal loan once a year from HSBC, to cover the cash they want to see in my account and I don't have to show monthly income from abroard. Very nice conditions! Just turn up once a year with the required documents.

Just being married to your wife puts you under a different visa bracket.

why do all answers raise more questions? TIT? Ok, so you have to be 50 or over for this? and you'll have to start making visa runs again at 63 ?

Also, I recall talk of having to have combined 45k income you and wife, but someone said she has to show it and pay taxes on it?

is there no sane way for husband and wife to remain together in Thailand? (farang/Thai, I know thai hubby and wife can do this )

a poster above seems to think he has no problems and same deal I guess even tho the child is his wifes. Does this mean you must have child in home with both? My indended's parents take care of her two boys about 5 hr north of Bkk and she works to support them on housekeeper wages in guesthouse/hostel. ALSO the non immigrant multi entry I read about where you get a year (when applied for at home country embassy or out of Thailand?) and a 3 month extension....these can not be gotten year after year just renew? or is there a finite number of times one can do this?

I do like the above part about no financial requirements as I would be putting much of what I have into helping her support parents and sons.

hold onto your hats gang, I have even more questions

I would love for there to be support group meetings in Bkk lol, in ADDITION to this helpful site. Maybe a club with leather covered chairs I'd love to be able to at least buy helpful members a drink.

really appreciate all (accurate and clear) info. The other is ok too, just sorting thru it is like a crossword puzzle at times, haha

Yes you have to be over 50 to do what BB did.

To get a year extension by having a Thai wife you have to have a family income of 40,000 Baht a month. Proof being a record of tax payments in Thailand or a letter from your embassy stating your income or a combination of both.

[Penkoprod]

This may sound skeptical, but i assure you its not. Its just that after all the wailing & gnashing of teeth on here, with people trying to fathom out, and meet (and in some cases trying to circumvent) the various requirements, both financial, and process-wise to a long term, fairly hassle free stay in LOS, from what the OP is saying, it seems that all thats needed is a Thai wife, and a Thai child and.........bingo one is in the land of milk and honey !!!!

No more visa runs.....be that 30 days, 90 days, whatever, until the child reaches 21

No more financial requirements to meet..........if one can live on 20,000 baht a month then thats all one needs to provide (and no proof needed)

All that needs to be done is to turn up at a local immigration office with passport, and marriage certificate and sign up for ANOTHER year?

This seems just too good to be true

Penkoprod

[Lite Beer]

This may sound skeptical, but i assure you its not. Its just that after all the wailing & gnashing of teeth on here, with people trying to fathom out, and meet (and in some cases trying to circumvent) the various requirements, both financial, and process-wise to a long term, fairly hassle free stay in LOS, from what the OP is saying, it seems that all thats needed is a Thai wife, and a Thai child and.........bingo one is in the land of milk and honey !!!!

No more visa runs.....be that 30 days, 90 days, whatever, until the child reaches 21

No more financial requirements to meet..........if one can live on 20,000 baht a month then thats all one needs to provide (and no proof needed)

All that needs to be done is to turn up at a local immigration office with passport, and marriage certificate and sign up for ANOTHER year?

This seems just too good to be true

Penkoprod

If you are over 50 and your name is on the childs birth certificate it can be done. Probably only in Bangkok as the other offices do not apear to know about this option.

[justSumGai]

If you are over 50 and your name is on the childs birth certificate it can be done. Probably only in Bangkok as the other offices do not apear to know about this option.

So let me get this straight...if you are young and you and your fiance don't make 40k combined, you might as well forget getting married but if you are 50+ and marry and impregnate a thai wife you have it made? Well, so much for those guys that are sure the gov is xenophobic and hates mixed marriage I guess. hmmmm. At 45 she won't be having our baby, so I guess I'm out of luck unless i pony up the big money. All I want to do it marry the woman and help her with her family. I don't want to work, or start a business or invest or any of that. Another question....IF you go the retirement route, you need what? 24k in the bank? for three months is it? would that be before applying for another year of Retirement visa? For three months after they give it to you? I can't find anywhere that says you have to spend it all in that year. You don't need to do border runs for retirement, right? just report your residence every 90 days or something. Forgive me I'm going off memory here.

[Badbanker]

This may sound skeptical, but i assure you its not. Its just that after all the wailing & gnashing of teeth on here, with people trying to fathom out, and meet (and in some cases trying to circumvent) the various requirements, both financial, and process-wise to a long term, fairly hassle free stay in LOS, from what the OP is saying, it seems that all thats needed is a Thai wife, and a Thai child and.........bingo one is in the land of milk and honey !!!!

No more visa runs.....be that 30 days, 90 days, whatever, until the child reaches 21

No more financial requirements to meet..........if one can live on 20,000 baht a month then thats all one needs to provide (and no proof needed)

All that needs to be done is to turn up at a local immigration office with passport, and marriage certificate and sign up for ANOTHER year?

This seems just too good to be true

Penkoprod

If you are over 50 and your name is on the childs birth certificate it can be done. Probably only in Bangkok as the other offices do not apear to know about this option.

In light of the treatment of other provincial immigration offices it is worth 2 trips per year for the family to come to Bangkok to do a visa extension.  It is a pain but I think it is worth it!

Yes it all seems to me too good to be true but I have this stamp in my passport that says 18 April 2008 that I really have read about 100 times in an attempt to convince myself that it is true!

Badbanker

Still in a visa daze!

[lopburi3]

The wording, as translated by Sunbelt, is "(5) In case of Father or Mother, the said father or mother shall be not younger than 50 years old." There is no other requirement but the Thai child has to sign paper the the foreigner will be staying with them so it would not work with an infant. It appears to be designed for elderly so that family can take care of them in old age as is the custom here. I have not heard of any age 21 limitation as outlined by Badbanker.

[Oleg_Rus]

Congratulations, you're packed!

Champaign in da Maybach - I guess your phone is Virtu ?

Cool (.)

[justSumGai]

The wording, as translated by Sunbelt, is "(5) In case of Father or Mother, the said father or mother shall be not younger than 50 years old." There is no other requirement but the Thai child has to sign paper the the foreigner will be staying with them so it would not work with an infant. It appears to be designed for elderly so that family can take care of them in old age as is the custom here. I have not heard of any age 21 limitation as outlined by Badbanker.

I don't understand this at all now. You mention nothing about whether the child has to be yours and your wifes as Lite suggests. But it's all about residing with the child? Why would you NOT have your child in the home with you and your wife, it's mother? Elderly, which elderly? wife's parents? You and wife in later years? I'm not even sure who you are replying to, about which point. I guess all this applies not a bit to me and my fiance. Is there somewhere that just explains the options for a person marrying a Thai and wishing to stay there with their new spouse? If there is some kinda code or reading between the lines info goin on I'm missing it. Perhaps I should just jump in both feet, marry the woman and begin the battle. Times like this make me somber to say the least.

[lopburi3]

This thread is Badbanker and you have quoted him. I am providing the wording for over age 50 mother or father having a Thai child (there name as one of the parents), being allowed to live in Thailand. He mentioned an upper age limit and there is no such provision in police order 606/2006 (which I would suggest you read - there are links at the top of the forum).

The requirement for marriage extension of stay is 40k family income.

[justSumGai]

This thread is Badbanker and you have quoted him. I am providing the wording for over age 50 mother or father having a Thai child (there name as one of the parents), being allowed to live in Thailand. He mentioned an upper age limit and there is no such provision in police order 606/2006 (which I would suggest you read - there are links at the top of the forum).

The requirement for marriage extension of stay is 40k family income.

hmm, so the child does NOT have to be YOUR child, with your name on the birth cert? But your new wifes child/children? Thanks for the order number, I was wondering the rule that started all this. Now I see what you mean about the 21 thing not going along with the care of elderly thang. Thanks. So if we marry and end up going home and raising her boys, I can use this method perhaps?

[lopburi3]

You have to be on the birth cirtificute as one of the parents to used this method which is what I though I said with "over age 50 mother or father having a Thai child (there name as one of the parents)". By "there" I was trying to say the foreign parent could be the mother or father but the foreign person must be a parent as listed on the birth certificate. So no you can not use this option.

You can use the 40k marriage family income or if over age 50 the retirement options. The other option is multi entry non immigrant O visa entry for 90 days at a time and making trips to renew your 90 day entry.

[Penkoprod]

In light of the treatment of other provincial immigration offices it is worth 2 trips per year for the family to come to Bangkok to do a visa extension. It is a pain but I think it is worth it!

Yes it all seems to me too good to be true but I have this stamp in my passport that says 18 April 2008 that I really have read about 100 times in an attempt to convince myself that it is true!

Badbanker

Still in a visa daze!

It wasnt so much the length of your visa that piqued my curiosity, but the part quoted below.......... (my embolding to your quote)

The really good good thing about this visa is that there is no financial requirement! I mean, I don't have to take a personal loan once a year from HSBC, to cover the cash they want to see in my account and I don't have to show monthly income from abroard. Very nice conditions! Just turn up once a year with the required documents.

It would be nice to be able to bring in what you NEED to bring in, in order to live as comfortably as one can/wishes, and not what is REQUIRED

But something tells me this is not the case, and, looking at other peoples replies it seems its still a case of 40,000 a month at the present time

Can you confirm that you dont have to prove a monthly income?

Penkprod

[lopburi3]

Section 7.17 para 5 of police order 606/2006 allows the parent over age 50 of a Thai child to live here without any financial requirements.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=97697

[Badbanker]

Yes this is the beauty of this new section!

There are no financial requirements at all!!!!!

You have to be over 50 years and one day old and your name has to be on the Thai birth certificate. The child has to be present because they want you to see if you really relate to your child or it is something else.

This topic is covered in my first post, a more lengthy treatise of this subject at

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?sh...p;#entry1264319

Please read this as it will give you the FULL story.

Badbanker

[justSumGai]

The wording, as translated by Sunbelt, is "(5) In case of Father or Mother, the said father or mother shall be not younger than 50 years old." There is no other requirement but the Thai child has to sign paper the the foreigner will be staying with them so it would not work with an infant. It appears to be designed for elderly so that family can take care of them in old age as is the custom here. I have not heard of any age 21 limitation as outlined by Badbanker.

Interesting take on it. Why don't they care about making it as easy for a husband to stay with his wife ? I wonder if you can shed light on this...

7.17 In case of the foreign national is the member of the Thai national’s family (Only for Father, Mother, Husband or Wife, ordinary child, adopted child or the child of the marriage couple.)

By marrying my thai fiance do I not become a member of her family? and what is the difference between "ordinary child" and "child of the marriage couple" Constant reference is made to A thai child, but never is it said YOUR thai child. I am reading the pdf on this rule now but have not seen where it must be your child with birth cert, etc. The mention of adoption seems to imply this tho. Ordinary child tho?

Thank you

[lopburi3]

By convention a husband is expected to take a Thai wife to his home country to support her. If he wants to stay with her in Thailand he can easily obtain non immigrant visas to do so. If they have a family income of 40k baht per month they can easily extend those stays for one year at a time.

Just as entry to most countries to stay requires the meeting of financial conditions there are conditions to be met here. No country I know of allows unrestricted access.

[Badbanker]

In the case of someone marrying a woman that already has children, I believe there is a possiblity for you to formally adopt these children which would then mean they are your children and so if you are 50 or over you may be able to use this adoption as a basis for the 7.17(5) extension.

Just a suggestion!

Badbanker

[Lite Beer]

In the case of someone marrying a woman that already has children, I believe there is a possiblity for you to formally adopt these children which would then mean they are your children and so if you are 50 or over you may be able to use this adoption as a basis for the 7.17(5) extension.

Just a suggestion!

Badbanker

I have been thinking of this. A bit off topic but anyone know the practicalities on adopting?