Road accidents claim 186 lives in first 3 days of New Year holidays in Thailand

[Artisi]

1 hour ago, Rancid said:

I don't get it at all. Sorry, comments that covid could wipe out everyone demonstrates a complete ignorance of the virus and its level of virulence. In fact about 99% of people who catch it survive. Don't read so much into the media doom porn, they just use that to sell headlines or clicks.

 

In fact being on a Thai road you have a higher random chance of dying than from covid. We all of course take our chances with both but the roads are far scarier.

That's pretty spot-on, for covid I can and do take protective action, mask always when around people other than family, wash hands, choose carefully when and where ever I go and how I interact with others at the time - - - - on the roads I drive within my limits and as if everyone is out to kill me, but the actions of others is way out of my control, I am unable to choose who is in my space and their abilities / intentions at that moment in time. 

So yes, the roads in Thailand are way more dangerous and scary for me as an individual. 

[masuk]

I can't help wondering, how many of these unfortunate fatalities of both motor vehicle and motor cycle riders, were in fact farang retirees and residents who allegedly are unable to pay their hospital or other bills.

 

We were led to believe that this was the cause of the increased requirements of vastly increased insurance policies and bank balances.

[jerolamo]

much much more than COVID death...

do lock down the road in all the Thailand, please, be logic with yourself.

 

i joke... the panic is not a solution, but an other one problem to ad in the list of problems.

Solution is the instruction (widely) and the resiliency. It is a long long road to go who has to start one day and will never end.

Edited January 2, 2021 by jerolamo

[Janner1]

On 1/1/2021 at 1:25 PM, overherebc said:

Someone explain to me the thinking behind comparing Covid deaths and road accident deaths.

The deaths are the result of two entirely different reasons.

But the end result is the same, people die, so why bother to go to the expense of buying a vaccine and sticking it into the arms of the people when the people are killing themselves in droves through very low driving standards anyway.

The end result is people die and in the case of Thailand if the government does nothing about road kill and then blames every death on it  Thailand will enter the Guinness book of records as the only country in the world with a zero Covid death rate. Clever init

[ChipButty]

Almost 900 Drunk Drivers Arrested & Put On Probation

The Department of Probation announced almost 900 drunk drivers were arrested and placed on court-ordered probation during the first three days of the “seven dangerous days” of the New Year holiday season.

[metisdead]

Off topic posts and replies regarding the Covid-19 deaths have been removed. 

 

[Truth Will Set You Free]

Thai lives do not matter. Why you think they don’t put any restriction on drinking and driving and etc? What the percentage of Thais versus foreigner dying on the roads?  The more that die in accidents the less they have to enforce the law. 

[Stargeezr]

I have been visiting Thailand since the 90s and the traffic deaths have been very high.

  I will not compare the topics of Road accidents to anything else.

    The number of covid deaths in Thailand are also a lot more than the official count, 

  and maybe in 20 years we may hear a bit more truth on that fact.  I may be a geezer, but I have lost

some relatives, and friends to covid, and most of them were half my age and except for getting

over another sickness, then catching covid and dying, most of them were a lot healthier than

  I am at 70. I am very glad that covid is not as deadly as some other viruses. especially Ebola.

   It would be nice to see less road deaths, but this is Thailand and unless the police really get

serious to educating the drivers, and enforcing the laws better there will be no changes in

our life times.

Geezer

  

  

[berrec]

So if 72.4% of road accidents in Thailand are attributed to the combined impact of DUI and speeding what are the the other 27.6% of road accidents caused by. 

 

[5633572526]

On 1/1/2021 at 8:25 PM, overherebc said:

Someone explain to me the thinking behind comparing Covid deaths and road accident deaths.

The deaths are the result of two entirely different reasons.

 

Simple really. It is to provide information as to the total disregard of the major killer in Thailand as opposed to the one that makes better headlines and enables control of the population and protesters by the military government 

[pattayadgw]

Sad as that number is (186 in 3 days)....... compare it with Covid - 19!

[Grogu]

he Department of Land Transport has announced that there will be no training or testing to obtain a driver's license at all offices from 2nd January 2021 until further notice  

 

I know the test is a joke but even so haha

[Chongalulu]

On 1/1/2021 at 8:25 PM, overherebc said:

Someone explain to me the thinking behind comparing Covid deaths and road accident deaths.

The deaths are the result of two entirely different reasons.

 

Quite simply- how much would you spend and cause economic damage / inconvenience and unemployment to save lives. That’s the correlation- so as far as Covid deaths are concerned the answer is ‘massively' while to save lives on the roads - ‘absolutely nothing'. 

[overherebc]

1 hour ago, nchuckle said:

Quite simply- how much would you spend and cause economic damage / inconvenience and unemployment to save lives. That’s the correlation- so as far as Covid deaths are concerned the answer is ‘massively' while to save lives on the roads - ‘absolutely nothing'. 

Why not discuss each one in their own threads.

[Artisi]

Seems the  first 3days has now been done to death (no pun intended) so what's the current score? 

[Chongalulu]

19 minutes ago, overherebc said:

Why not discuss each one in their own threads.

Because there’s a relationship between the respective extent of measures taken to mitigate the common objective of both - to reduce casualties.

[overherebc]

16 minutes ago, nchuckle said:

Because there’s a relationship between the respective extent of measures taken to mitigate the common objective of both - to reduce casualties.

There is no relationship between the number of deaths. They happen for totally different reasons.

[Chongalulu]

2 minutes ago, overherebc said:

There is no relationship between the number of deaths. They happen for totally different reasons.

Reading and comprehension difficulties? 

[Thomas J]

19 hours ago, Scott Tracy said:

This, to me, is a gross over simplification. It can be the fault of the accident victim who have their lives ripped away, as you put it. Running red lights, driving too fast for the conditions, driving faulty vehicles. Why is it always the responsibility of government that people drink and then drive? Is it governments that get in vehicles that have faulty brakes, is it governments that have micro-sleeps, run red lights, not wear crash helmets? Ride 4 up, let kids ride bikes? No. Personal responsibility has to start somewhere, and that's at home and school.

A culture change is needed. That comes hard in any country

Scott Tracy

 

I just am perplexed by the amount of concern the government has for people who catch covid versus concern over the lives lost and injuries sustained in motor vehicles.  Covid is communicable but 95% of the people who contract it don't even require hospitalization.  97% in total recover from it and of the remaining 3% they contracted Covid but had other serious pre-existing conditions.  They "may" have also died if they contracted pneumonia, malaria, TB, Dengue fever, Sepsis and in fact may have also had one or more of those ailments when they eventually died. 

If it is lives that the government is concerned over then why not a strict enforcement of the helmet law on motorcycles.  If it is lives that are important than with over 28,000 traffic fatalities many the result of driving while under the influence, why not a strict police practice of breathalyzer checks.  The government has no problem requiring each and every person to get their temperature checked but seems to have no problem if drivers kill innocent people on the highways or if motorcycle drivers die or suffer horrible injuries from not wearing a helmet.  

Just seems to be a hypocrisy that dying from Covid requires an all out war to try and contain it while far more deaths from other causes are treated as acceptable. 

[overherebc]

43 minutes ago, nchuckle said:

Reading and comprehension difficulties? 

If that's your problem then that's up to you.

[Artisi]

1 hour ago, overherebc said:

Why not discuss each one in their own threads.

Both are probably extensively discussed their own threads, however the comment raised here  was a comparison of the government's involvement with one problem as compared to an apparent complete disregard for an other, that seems a reasonable point for discussion, wouldn't you think? 

[overherebc]

12 minutes ago, Artisi said:

Both are probably extensively discussed their own threads, however the comment raised here  was a comparison of the government's involvement with one problem as compared to an apparent complete disregard for an other, that seems a reasonable point for discussion, wouldn't you think? 

It, DUI, I think should be discussed in a dedicated thread for those who wish to do so.

How Covid is handled should be discussed in it's own dedicated thread.

I don't see the point of lumping them together.

[bbbbooboo]

Hmmm...just another 3 days in the "Land of Smiles"

[Damrongsak]

How many of the 1,600 "injured" died on the way to the hospital or shortly after?  I presume the 186 died in action on the battlefield.

 

 

[tinca tinca]

so many took notice of the SLOGAN and article posted on here by the DISEASE DEPARTMENT BEFORE XMAS ????!!!!!