Have you noticed random Thais being friendlier to f-rangs in the current abnormal?

[Jingthing]

Pattaya is a tourism city.

There aren't tourists now.

Huge numbers of Thai tourism workers have left.

We all know that.

When it was packed the local Thais often tended to be rude or worse to f-rangs unless there was a direct money motivation to be fake nice. All stranger f-rangs considered to be tourists.

But not now.

Those left here, Thais and f-rangs, are really here. 

So I've noticed a difference in attitudes of local Thais. Have you? 

Even the baht bus drivers have been friendly! 

A while back there when the pandemic in Europe was in the news more (now it's global of course) I was feeling some anti f-rang xenophobia, sadly similar to the anti-Asian xenophobia flaring up in the U.S. Maybe incited by some officials calling f-rangs dirty and mask shirkers.

But things don't seem to have progressed that way. 

A small bit of a silver lining?

[Jack Hna]

No way, very odd comment and says a lot. I was in a mall last week eating japanese food with Mrs and I told her to watch when farangs walk past and cross a Thai. Each time the Thai will check there mask or put it on quickly.

 

7 occurrences in an hour. Zero farangs walked past with this incident occurring each time by different Thais.

 

 

 

 

[ezzra]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Even the baht bus drivers have been friendly!

Who uses baht buses now days? however, you should see the big smiles i get from my friendly fish mongers in the market... anyway Thai most people are friendly lot most of the time been here 30 odd years and not complaining...

Edited February 16, 2021 by ezzra

[jacko45k]

4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

So I've noticed a difference in attitudes of local Thais. Have you? 

Even the baht bus drivers have been friendly! 

Yes I agree in the main... although a couple of WIN guys I used were their usual surly selves and would not slow down. I was worried about the pressure of people without incomes and possible crime but it does not seem to have materialized.

[Jingthing]

5 hours ago, ezzra said:

Who uses baht buses now days? 

...

As if you'd have to ask.

Edited February 17, 2021 by Jingthing

[HashBrownHarry]

No

[BigStar]

I've always found Thais friendly enough to me, as I'm friendly to them first and always offer a pleasant Sawatdee, krub. But maybe slightly more now, yes. Perhaps it's that they needn't be so wary of idiot tourists now that the remaining farang are mostly expats. Further, the expats may be more circumspect and generous about giving tips nowadays. I certainly am. Not surprisingly I'm getting a lot more recognition and friendliness on repeat visits.

 

It's a good time to be in Pattaya except for all the sad closings and the hardship they represent.

[salsajapan]

no, and staff are not smarter also, they just don't care. People here will never improve and this is why we love them ❤️

 

 

[NanLaew]

10 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Even the baht bus drivers have been friendly! 

Really? Have you bought your lottery tickets yet?

[phantomfiddler]

No.

[Jingthing]

58 minutes ago, BigStar said:

I've always found Thais friendly enough to me, as I'm friendly to them first and always offer a pleasant Sawatdee, krub. But maybe slightly more now, yes. Perhaps it's that they needn't be so wary of idiot tourists now that the remaining farang are mostly expats. Further, the expats may be more circumspect and generous about giving tips nowadays. I certainly am. Not surprisingly I'm getting a lot more recognition and friendliness on repeat visits.

 

It's a good time to be in Pattaya except for all the sad closings and the hardship they represent.

Good point. I'm certainly more appreciative of the Thais that are still here as well.

[Pravda]

Thais were always friendly. 

 

Sorry for a non pc comment but maybe, just maybe all the rude scammers have gone back to Isaan? 

[Jingthing]

18 minutes ago, Pravda said:

Thais were always friendly. 

 

Sorry for a non pc comment but maybe, just maybe all the rude scammers have gone back to Isaan? 

That's an interesting theory but Isaan people are also Thai, no?

[spiekerjozef]

Most Thais have always been friendly.

It's more the situation/people around them.

I noticed a huge difference in attitude from the 7/11 staff next to a hotel full of Russians before the pandemic. lol I can't blame them.

[Ireland32]

11 hours ago, Jack Hna said:

No way, very odd comment and says a lot. I was in a mall last week eating japanese food with Mrs and I told her to watch when farangs walk past and cross a Thai. Each time the Thai will check there mask or put it on quickly.

 

7 occurrences in an hour. Zero farangs walked past with this incident occurring each time by different Thais.

 

 

 

 

Everybody who walks into Starbucks takes their mask off immediately, especially Farang goofs 

[Ireland32]

I have been Tipping More , because business is Down and they certainly show their Thanks , espy on return visits they certainly remember you 

[DaLa]

I noticed a ‘friendlier’ situation after the 13 boys were rescued from the Tham Luang cave 2 years back. Generally most Thais I deal with , I need their help for our business so I’m grateful and give them the respect they deserve. Most Thias that deal with me have something to gain so show me respect.

 

Win win in most cases. The only time there is a problem is if and when they are total strangers and they have problems with queueing.

[Kaoboi Bebobp]

I had to think about that for a minute or two, as I recently spent 3 months in Pattaya. Sorry, JT, but I have to issue a resounding "NO." 

 

With very, very few exceptions, restaurant and bar staff are the same disinterested, forgetful and unthankful bunch (and I was a sympathetic over- tipper), 7-11 clerks can't wait to ignore you after the transaction (in mostly empty 7s), Big C staff till can't give a rat's a$$ (no matter how polite I was), the barber I frequented thanked me for my over-payment  (but I never heard a word of greeting when I returned).  

 

I think I could count the number of smiles on two hands over the three months. It was that noticeably absent. The shocking exceptions were the helpful, polite and grateful moto taxi guys. 

 

I couldn't wait to move back to Bangkok (on New Year's Eve) where, IMO, 7-11, restaurant, bar and Big C service is remarkably better than in Pattaya. 

Edited February 17, 2021 by Kaoboi Bebobp
Typo fix

[guzzi850m2]

I found them also slightly friendlier.

 

At a German restaurant on Naklua road I often go to for breakfast, I get royal treatment after one of the ladies gave me back change as she thought that I gave her 1000 but I only gave her 500 which I off-course pointed out. She were extremely grateful because they pay out of own pocket if they screw it up. Now she know how I want my breakfast, no sausages but extra bacon instead and the Germans apparently don't uses ketchup on their fried eggs but I do and I don't have to ask for it anymore.

Needless to say that I tip them nicely.

 

This restaurant have been in business since 1979 and I would hate it, if it goes under during current crises but I think they will survive because there are often quite many people in there. Taverne is the name.

[Ireland32]

47 minutes ago, Kaoboi Bebobp said:

I had to think about that for a minute or two, as I recently spent 3 months in Pattaya. Sorry, JT, but I have to issue a resounding "NO." 

 

With very, very few exceptions, restaurant and bar staff are the same disinterested, forgetful and unthankful bunch (and I was a sympathetic over- tipper), 7-11 clerks can't wait to ignore you after the transaction (in mostly empty 7s), Big C staff till can't give a rat's a$$ (no matter how polite I was), the barber I frequented thanked me for my over-payment  (but I never heard a word of greeting when I returned).  

 

I think I could count the number of smiles on two hands over the three months. It was that noticeably absent. The shocking exceptions were the helpful, polite and grateful moto taxi guys. 

 

I couldn't wait to move back to Bangkok (on New Year's Eve) where, IMO, 7-11, restaurant, bar and Big C service is remarkably better than in Pattaya. 

I had two 7/11 clerks making sure I got my discounts, I never uttered a word , I didn’t even know they were discounted, they saved me 24 b , they were looking at their tablets for discounts , I love the 7/11 employees, all properly trained , and all very nice , even going in the back snd finding me cases of water that are not on sales floor, 7/11 Employees are Great 

[1FinickyOne]

3 hours ago, BigStar said:

I've always found Thais friendly enough to me, as I'm friendly to them first

precisely... I smile first too and it is always returned... happily so... not such a difficult trick to learn...

[1FinickyOne]

13 hours ago, Jingthing said:

So I've noticed a difference in attitudes of local Thais

I know this is a Pattaya forum but this is exactly why I live in and around smaller areas.. country Thai are lovely and friendly and engaging... same as always... 

[Knocker33]

NO

[GreasyFingers]

3 hours ago, 1FinickyOne said:

precisely... I smile first too and it is always returned... happily so... not such a difficult trick to learn...

A bit difficult with a mask on. Sorry, only joking.

[samtab]

5 hours ago, Kaoboi Bebobp said:

I had to think about that for a minute or two, as I recently spent 3 months in Pattaya. Sorry, JT, but I have to issue a resounding "NO." 

 

With very, very few exceptions, restaurant and bar staff are the same disinterested, forgetful and unthankful bunch (and I was a sympathetic over- tipper), 7-11 clerks can't wait to ignore you after the transaction (in mostly empty 7s), Big C staff till can't give a rat's a$$ (no matter how polite I was), the barber I frequented thanked me for my over-payment  (but I never heard a word of greeting when I returned).  

 

I think I could count the number of smiles on two hands over the three months. It was that noticeably absent. The shocking exceptions were the helpful, polite and grateful moto taxi guys. 

 

I couldn't wait to move back to Bangkok (on New Year's Eve) where, IMO, 7-11, restaurant, bar and Big C service is remarkably better than in Pattaya. 

 

Stupid to think that they are better in BKK, but the rest is correct, Thai will never improve.

 

[samtab]

4 hours ago, guzzi850m2 said:

I found them also slightly friendlier.

 

At a German restaurant on Naklua road I often go to for breakfast, I get royal treatment after one of the ladies gave me back change as she thought that I gave her 1000 but I only gave her 500 which I off-course pointed out. She were extremely grateful because they pay out of own pocket if they screw it up. Now she know how I want my breakfast, no sausages but extra bacon instead and the Germans apparently don't uses ketchup on their fried eggs but I do and I don't have to ask for it anymore.

Needless to say that I tip them nicely.

 

This restaurant have been in business since 1979 and I would hate it, if it goes under during current crises but I think they will survive because there are often quite many people in there. Taverne is the name.

 

Kiss restaurant ? yes staff are always good there. Food also.

 

[guzzi850m2]

26 minutes ago, samtab said:

 

Kiss restaurant ? yes staff are always good there. Food also.

 

I wrote the name in the bottom of my post. Think Kiss is closed on Naklua road.

 

Not a great loss, the 99baht breakfast was nothing write home about.

[1FinickyOne]

1 hour ago, GreasyFingers said:

A bit difficult with a mask on. Sorry, only joking.

you can see the smile in the eyes... just as nice...

[stuandjulie]

6 hours ago, Ireland32 said:

Everybody who walks into Starbucks takes their mask off immediately, especially Farang goofs 

Hard to drink coffee through a mask, gets messy ????

[Scouse123]

I find they are the same up in Isaarn as they always are.

 

They are friendly to everybody, they just crack on and do their best to earn a living.