SURVEY: Should foreigners in or coming to Thailand be required to be vaccinated?

[RichardColeman]

I voted 1. (had mine so its not really an issue).

 

BUT, 3.is kind of mute in my opinion and 1. should read :

Resident foreigners should be vaccinated to renew a visa, arriving foreigners need to show proof of vaccination, until Thailand has vaccinated the majority of Thailand has been vaccinated after which they could arrive without vaccination proof

[Sjptain]

I'm mid-way through getting vaccinated before i return back to Thailand - two weeks left and then i'll get the second shot and hopefully a bit of protection and hopefully return in July. 

I think everybody has a choice to get it or not, but also feel that those who opt not to get it, be it National or Expat (in any country the vaccine is available), should bear full medical treatment costs if they catch COVID as the facility was available to reduce the chances of catching it if they had received the vaccine.

[VBF]

4 hours ago, CygnusX1 said:

Most Australians will only be able to get the Oxford/AZ vaccine in 2021, so you’d think that should be good enough for overseas visitors as well.

AZ is the one being rolled out in UK, and despites strange age-related protestations from Germany is ruled appropriate for all.

i've had my first one  (age 65)

[VBF]

4 hours ago, talahtnut said:

 

Read the writing on the Georgia Guide Stones, it is there for all to see.

Having never heard of them, i searched  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones#Inscriptions 

Quite frankly, they are open enough to take either way, so what might be your point?

It's a bit like Nostradamus - most of the predictions are woolly enough that you can interpret them to fit the circumstances!

[vandeventer]

5 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

 

Did you closely examine the vaccines for MMR and polio when you received them?

The polio vaccine was on a cube of sugar, at my age than I am going to say no? Right

[Kwasaki]

On 2/28/2021 at 4:56 AM, Scott said:

With Thailand starting the roll out of it's vaccine, in your opinion should foreigners in Thailand be required to obtain a vaccine if they wish to remain in the country?   Should foreigners be eligible to be a part of the local roll-out of the vaccine, or should they be required to obtain it from private health providers?  With a large number of foreign workers from neighboring countries in low-paying jobs in Thailand, should they be vaccinated by the government?  Chose the option that best expresses your opinion on the situation.  

 

Please feel free to leave a comment.  

 

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1207047-foreigners-should-be-forced-to-have-a-covid-19-vaccination-and-they-should-pay-for-it-thai-poll/

 

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1207238-covid-19-vaccine-distribution-planned/

 

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1207436-opening-up-to-foreign-tourists-thais-fear-vaxxed-foreigners-could-still-spread-disease/

 

Tell me where to get a vaccine in the North. 

[Odysseus123]

It's perfectly simple..

Get the jab at your end or get the jab at Thailand's end-or the reverse if that situation applies.

Carry the appropriate medical documentation.

If-for medical reasons-you are unable to get the jab-have appropriate documentation and do yourself a favour and stay at home in whatever country you reside in.

[Oldie]

Why to vaccinate millions of people if there are almost no cases anymore? 

[Surelynot]

3 minutes ago, Oldie said:

Why to vaccinate millions of people if there are almost no cases anymore? 

To stop there being any cases in the future?......just a wild guess.

[ChrisKC]

6 hours ago, 4evermaat said:

It's very interesting how many people are willing to queue up to inject a substance directly into their bloodstream without an ingredients list or with just emergency authorization when it comes to testing.

 

Hope it works out ok ????

The ingredients and why they are  in there are available but even if you saw them - and there are more than you would think - doubtful you would understand it well enough to decide good or bad! My source is a YouTube video under the name of Professor Stick (a pseudonym but someone I respect)

[Rimmer]

A conspiracy troll post in French has been removed, this is an English language forum.

 

Also removed a giant off topic cut and paste job

[chilly07]

Choices do not include "all travellers entering Thailand should have vaccination certificate and do 14 days quarantine" which is my choice. If vaccines are not available for expats then it should not be a condition of extension!

[Sjptain]

9 minutes ago, chilly07 said:

Choices do not include "all travellers entering Thailand should have vaccination certificate and do 14 days quarantine" which is my choice. If vaccines are not available for expats then it should not be a condition of extension!

I'm sure it will be available for expats, my guess is they are trying to determine how much they can extract from the farang-wallet. Here in Singapore it's free and we are currently getting the Pfizer vaccine with 3 weeks between shots.

Also get a free box of face masks and bottle of hand sanitizer.

Everywhere you go you need masks on, and a choice of the phone tracking app, or a token that can be scanned when entering any building or shop - this has reduced contract tracing to around 1.5days

 

Edited March 1, 2021 by Sjptain
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[Oldie]

29 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

To stop there being any cases in the future?......just a wild guess.

Even if you start to vaccinate the people it will take very long to vaccinate all of them. And if the vaccination works only for a couple of month vaccinated people will lose the protection again. So it might be an endless procedure with no guarantee that the virus will disappear completely. Perhaps I don't see it optimistic enough - could be. 

[DogNo1]

 

People entering the country from abroad should be required to undergo a fourteen-day ( or maybe twenty-one day ) quarantine and be given a choice of the vaccines when the supply becomes plentiful.  I want the J & J vaccine if I can   get it.  One injection and sixty-nine days later there have been no hospitalizations for anyone of any age group.  Will the J & J Vaccine be available in Thailand? I have a hunch that only the locally produced vaccine will be available.

Yesterday on Front Line, Dr. Tony Fauci unequivocally stated that vaccinated persons could be infected and transmit the virus.  A vaccine doesn't confer immunity, just protection from moderate to severe symptoms.  There seems to be a lot of magical thinking about the power of a vaccine.  A vaccine isn't an innoculation.  It doesn't kill the virus.  The virus will continue on but if enough people are vaccinated quickly it should become less deadly.   That is not to say that variants such as the one in South Africa might not spring up and need to be dealt with by an enhanced vaccine.  COVID will probably be with us for many years and need to be dealt with by an evolving series of vaccines.

[Oldie]

7 minutes ago, DogNo1 said:

Yesterday on Front Line, Dr. Tony Fauci unequivocally stated that vaccinated persons could be infected and transmit the virus.  A vaccine doesn't confer immunity, just protection from moderate to severe symptoms.  There seems to be a lot of magical thinking about the power of a vaccine.  A vaccine isn't an innoculation.  It doesn't kill the virus.  The virus will continue on but if enough people are vaccinated quickly it should become less deadly.   That is not to say that variants such as the one in South Africa might not spring up and need to be dealt with by an enhanced vaccine.  COVID will probably be with us for many years and need to be dealt with by an evolving series of vaccines.

 

Yes, there is a big misunderstanding. The vaccination doesn't protect 100 percent and not forever. 

[bermondburi]

25 minutes ago, Sjptain said:

I'm sure it will be available for expats, my guess is they are trying to determine how much they can extract from the farang-wallet. Here in Singapore it's free and we are currently getting the Pfizer vaccine with 3 weeks between shots.

Also get a free box of face masks and bottle of hand sanitizer.

Everywhere you go you need masks on, and a choice of the phone tracking app, or a token that can be scanned when entering any building or shop - this has reduced contract tracing to around 1.5days

 

I'm an expat and I've had my first shot. 

[Bradmeister]

Let's stop saying foreigners as though we have a disease already....please.

 

Should anyone coming into Thailand, returning residents or citizens,,? 

 

International business travellers? 

 

Or do we mean people of other nationalities who were born in Thailand, but hold another nation's passport/passbook? 

 

Should returning Thai nationals need to be inoculated? Should all Thai residents and citizens be inoculated?  

 

Or the tourists on sexy tour who may or may not be from a boarder town in Cambodia, Laos, Burma or Malaysia and can speak, read and write in Thai? 

 

Stop asking about Them!  

 

Stop being racial! 

 

 

[Tony45]

I believe all foreigners in Thailand should have the course of vaccines and be given the certificate to prove this. Payment is up to the Thai Government.

[RT555]

Should not be forced to inject anything into me.......ya'll are a bunch of Sheep.......

I got my shots when I was born and haven't seen the daylight of a hospital in 60+ years.

No need to disrupt my well taken care of bodyworks........

[jak2002003]

29 minutes ago, RT555 said:

Should not be forced to inject anything into me.......ya'll are a bunch of Sheep....... 

I got my shots when I was born and haven't seen the daylight of a hospital in 60+ years.

No need to disrupt my well taken care of bodyworks........

Me too. I only got basic shots when I was born. None since then apart from anti rabies jabs when I got bitten by a sick looking dog here.

 

I had a lot of the common kids diseases. Got over then all quickly and no lasting effects. Had chicken pox, measles, mumps etc. 

 

Now I am 45 years old and have not been ill with a virus since I was a kid. I have never had the flu and rarely get a cold. I just make sure I am reasonably active, don't eat too much junk / processes food, don't smoke or do drugs and don't overeat. 

 

 

 

Edited March 1, 2021 by jak2002003

[bartender100]

14 minutes ago, jak2002003 said:

Me too. I only got basic shots when I was born. None since then apart from anti rabies jabs when I got bitten by a sock looking dog here.

 

I had a lot of the common kids diseases. Got over then all quickly and no lasting effects. Had chicken pox, measles, mumps etc. 

 

Now I am 45 years old and have not been ill with a virus since I was a kid. I have never had the flu and rarely get a cold. I just make sure I am reasonably active, don't eat too much junk / processes food, don't smoke or do drugs and don't overeat. 

 

 

 

Me also, but I have had the first dose in the UK.

 

You will find it hard to travel, get into events, renew visas and probably get limited access to pubs and restaurants without the vaccine in the next few years, so the choice is yours.

[jak2002003]

2 minutes ago, bartender100 said:

Me also, but I have had the first dose in the UK.

 

You will find it hard to travel, get into events, renew visas and probably get limited access to pubs and restaurants without the vaccine in the next few years, so the choice is yours.

I agree with you. But it's not right. It's basically blackmail and discriminating against normal healthy human beings.

 

If it was 100 per cent free and no one was making a profit I would be more inclines to believe their motives. 

 

I am not stupid and I know about the real benefits and tried and tested vaccines against really dangerous diseases. But I don't class covid 19 as such as it is now. 

[meechai]

12 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

As far as I know there is no downside to vaccination.

 

Of course we all hope so but to say no downside at this first step in a loooong journey is pretty presumptuous.

When one considers

the speed with which this vaccine was developed,

the new technology involved in mRNA vaccines

the limited amount that has been administered

& lastly the amount of time passed since first doses were administered

 

But yes we hope for "limited" downside as there is never "no" downside with any vaccination

 

Edited March 1, 2021 by meechai

[Stargeezr]

I will be getting my vaccination, via a needle of either Pfizer or Moderna, and if the J & J is available I would accept it as well.

   My one red neck cousin who was 33, and had all his childhood shots and vaccinations,  was an anti masker and anti vaxxer for

this corona virus. He caught Covid 19, and died 2 weeks later.  I have had a few relatives and friends die from this virus, and do not 

wish to join them any time soon.  As my cousins mother said, in the days of the Spanish flu, there were no vaccines to help the people.

  She will be getting her vaccination as soon as she can as well.

Geezer

[bartender100]

4 hours ago, jak2002003 said:

I agree with you. But it's not right. It's basically blackmail and discriminating against normal healthy human beings.

 

If it was 100 per cent free and no one was making a profit I would be more inclines to believe their motives. 

 

I am not stupid and I know about the real benefits and tried and tested vaccines against really dangerous diseases. But I don't class covid 19 as such as it is now. 

2.5 million deaths and you don't class it as dangerous, that's dangerous thinking in itself, thousands of healthy fit people have caught it and died as per Stargrazer9889 post above.

 

I imagine every time a child gets its measles, mumps and other shots someone makes a profit. It's the way of the world, they spent millions developing the jabs they have to charge for it

 

 We all need to do our part to stamp the disease out so we can get back to living normally, and I can get back to Thailand???? The vaccination will save you from hospitalization at the least, imagine how much that would cost you in Thailand?

[Kenneth White]

19 hours ago, CM Dad said:

I want to get vaccinated, but I want a proven vaccine that is appropriate for my age - not the Chinese one and not AstraZenica.  I want either the Phizer or Moderna vaccine.

I agree that we should all be vaccinated but like you I don't trust Chinese or any of the others for that matter. I read and researched some of what is in these vaccines and there is some pretty scary stuff inside.

[Kenneth White]

8 hours ago, Tony45 said:

I believe all foreigners in Thailand should have the course of vaccines and be given the certificate to prove this. Payment is up to the Thai Government.

Yep, charge the foreigners to subsidize the poor Thai people. Don't misunderstand me I love Thailand and Thai people and see that the poorest of the poor need this freebie. I will gladly pay but don't tell me I am forced to pay or leave. 

[BobinBKK]

23 hours ago, Odysseus123 said:

Number 1...of course.

Yet another racist survey. Number 1 can be taken as a racist statement as it doesn't mention mandatory vaccinations of Thai nationals. I will be getting vaccinated as soon as it becomes available to me for my age group (over 60) free or otherwise for the sake of my own personal health and safety, not because of what "ANYONE" thinks or wants.

[BobinBKK]

20 hours ago, Freeduhdum said:

There are a myriad of very serious implications that surround compulsory vaccinations and I would put a very thoroughly and credibly researched comment here explaining the important issues why compulsory vaccinations are a very bad idea.. but it appears that my comment will only be removed, as other comments have, by the "moderators" on this forum. So I won't bother. Let's see how long this comment lasts...

Yes I too have noticed that things are one-sided on this website.