Is murky past about to catch up with govt ‘fixer’ Thamanat?

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By Thai PBS World’s Political Desk

 

When General Prawit Wongsuwan took control of the ruling Palang Pracharath Party in June last year, among his core tasks was to manage the internal power struggle between party factions.

 

The deputy PM’s first move was to oust the “Four Boys” from the Cabinet and party executive. The Four Boys oversaw Thailand’s economy and were led by then-finance minister Uttama Savanayana.

 

Prawit is now thought to be planning another leadership revamp at the party’s upcoming general meeting, with the spotlight on the secretary-general. The post is currently held by PM’s Office Minister Anucha Nakasai from the Sam Mitr (Three Friends) faction. He replaced former energy minister Sontirat Sontijirawong, one of the Four Boys, in June last year.

 

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[Excel]

The murkier the past, the more incompetent you have proven to be and the more depraved you act, will only ensure that you are proudly looked after and protected by the higher echelons of Thai government and Thai society as they have no time or concern for the honest hard working people of this country.

[mtls2005]

He's not a "fixer"; fixers work behind the scenes.

 

Thamanat is an "enforcer".

[robblok]

If he survives this it shows the complete bias of the court systems and how morally corrupt the system is.

 

A conviction in Australia should be valued far more then one in Thailand. 

 

Though i really would not be too surprised if he survives this given how things work in this country. 

[fangless]

4 minutes ago, robblok said:

A conviction in Australia should be valued far more then one in Thailand. 

Given that Australia abides by the rule of law and Thailand does not I would value the extremely rare  conviction of a politician in Thailand as a rarity and should therefore be valued higher than any foreign one! 

[ikke1959]

Some people seem to live forever

[chickenslegs]

20 minutes ago, fangless said:

Given that Australia abides by the rule of law and Thailand does not I would value the extremely rare  conviction of a politician in Thailand as a rarity and should therefore be valued higher than any foreign one! 

 

Except that conviction or acquittal can be bought (or traded) here, so neither has any "value" as an indicator of truth.

[Surelynot]

Is murky past about to catch up with govt ‘fixer’ Thamanat?

 

With current holdings estimated to be $42 million there isn't a snowball's chance in hell his past will ever catch up with him.

[Misterwhisper]

"Is murky past about to catch up with govt ‘fixer’ Thamanat?"

 

Ironically, a "fixer" in German is a derogatory term for "heroin addict".

[Surelynot]

20 minutes ago, Misterwhisper said:

"Is murky past about to catch up with govt ‘fixer’ Thamanat?"

 

Ironically, a "fixer" in German is a derogatory term for "heroin addict".

We call them "Goves" in the UK

[hotchilli]

6 hours ago, robblok said:

If he survives this it shows the complete bias of the court systems and how morally corrupt the system is.

 

A conviction in Australia should be valued far more then one in Thailand. 

 

Though i really would not be too surprised if he survives this given how things work in this country. 

It's not what they have against you that matters, what counts is what you have against them !

[edwardandtubs]

6 hours ago, Surelynot said:

Is murky past about to catch up with govt ‘fixer’ Thamanat?

 

With current holdings estimated to be $42 million there isn't a snowball's chance in hell his past will ever catch up with him.

 

Anyway, it wasn't heroin it was flour. FACT.

[Meat Pie 47]

1 minute ago, edwardandtubs said:

 

Anyway, it wasn't heroin it was flour. FACT.

And pigs fly

[khunjeff]

His past isn't murky at all - every detail has been well known for many years.

[robblok]

1 hour ago, hotchilli said:

It's not what they have against you that matters, what counts is what you have against them !

Yes the future forward guy was banned from politics for a loan but they let a known drug dealer in government. Kinda says it all about the Thai government. 

[fondue zoo]

12 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

Some people seem to live forever

 

He's a Thailander..  there can be only one.

[LomSak27]

4 hours ago, khunjeff said:

His past isn't murky at all - every detail has been well known for many years.

 

Really, I would love to hear about it. 

 

The murder he was arrested, but then exonerated of. From the article I read, it sounds like he was convicted & serving time when he was ‘released'. It stated, it was the murder of a political activist. So who was it? When was it, how and where? Had he been convicted? And how did he magically get released. Were other people convicted for it, or is it currently a 'cold case'. Lots of questions.
 

I consider it extremely murky. His Oz holiday less so. 

[Meat Pie 47]

Australian drug conviction

Manat Bophlom, now known as Thamanat Prompow, was convicted of conspiring to import heroin to Australia. The ruling was handed down on 31 March 1994 when he was sentenced to six years imprisonment. Manat served four years, then was deported upon his release.^[19] BBC Thai reporters traveled to Downing Court in Sydney to view court records. Forbidden to make photocopies, they translated a relevant court document into Thai as proof of the conviction that Thamanat continues to deny.^[20][21] Deputy Prime Minister Gen Prawit Wongsuwon asked the Thai people to leave the past in the past, saying the case has already been cleared up and that it was a matter concerning one person that has nothing to do with the nation.^[22][23] Thamanat claims he will sue the Sydney Morning Herald for defamation,^[24] although he declines to respond to their reporting

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thamanat_Prompow

[mikebell]

21 hours ago, Surelynot said:

With current holdings estimated to be $42 million

Not bad for selling flour.

[robblok]

10 hours ago, Meat Pie 47 said:

Australian drug conviction

Manat Bophlom, now known as Thamanat Prompow, was convicted of conspiring to import heroin to Australia. The ruling was handed down on 31 March 1994 when he was sentenced to six years imprisonment. Manat served four years, then was deported upon his release.^[19] BBC Thai reporters traveled to Downing Court in Sydney to view court records. Forbidden to make photocopies, they translated a relevant court document into Thai as proof of the conviction that Thamanat continues to deny.^[20][21] Deputy Prime Minister Gen Prawit Wongsuwon asked the Thai people to leave the past in the past, saying the case has already been cleared up and that it was a matter concerning one person that has nothing to do with the nation.^[22][23] Thamanat claims he will sue the Sydney Morning Herald for defamation,^[24] although he declines to respond to their reporting

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thamanat_Prompow

Hypocrites, a drug dealer is ok a loan is not. But its on par for Thai politics. The PTP had a murderer as a MP at the same time of the riot about Thamanat and they only attacked the drug guy while protecting their own. Vice versa the same happened. So all of them who are in power only care about their enemies being disqualified not about true justice.

 

But we all knew this already.

 

Futureforeward was the oly good exception. But they found some bogus charges with the loan against him. 

[mtls2005]

I'll see your murky past and raise you two wives and dodgy PhD.

 

 

 

 

[internationalism]

he murdered, smuggled drugs, but he used to work for a very important person (claimed at an australian court as defence), so he always be innocent https://www.khaosodenglish.com/politics/2019/09/11/thammanat-says-heroin-expose-is-political-plot-to-smear-him/

Edited May 5, 2021 by internationalism

[internationalism]

international press reaction.

that one is from the magazine which fist published court papers

https://www.smh.com.au/national/australian-jail-time-no-barrier-to-cabinet-post-thai-court-rules-20210505-p57p1e.html?fbclid=IwAR0CgKqy1U4V6LINKoKw9HrL2_jDvl90gLWt7Ma6lgFhJ2-gGKvgravxO_A

[anchadian]

https://twitter.com/KhaosodEnglish/status/1389860641574297601

 

Khaosod English

 

@KhaosodEnglish

 

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#BREAKING The Constitutional Court Wednesday rules that asst. agriculture minister Thammanat Prompao can retain his ministerial post depite being allegedly convicted of drug trafficking in Australia. The court said in its verdict that foreign convictions don't apply to Thailand.

[anchadian]

Just now, anchadian said:

https://twitter.com/KhaosodEnglish/status/1389860641574297601

 

Khaosod English

 

@KhaosodEnglish

 

· 1h

#BREAKING The Constitutional Court Wednesday rules that asst. agriculture minister Thammanat Prompao can retain his ministerial post depite being allegedly convicted of drug trafficking in Australia. The court said in its verdict that foreign convictions don't apply to Thailand.

 

https://twitter.com/pakhead/status/1389863193984438273

 

Jonathan Head

 

@pakhead

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1h

 

Not a surprising outcome, but still extraordinary considering how many Thai politicians are banned from office and face prosecution for very minor infractions. You'd think a country that imposes the death penalty for drug smuggling would take the Australian verdict more seriously

[anchadian]

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[Artisi]

On 5/4/2021 at 9:28 AM, robblok said:

If he survives this it shows the complete bias of the court systems and how morally corrupt the system is.

 

A conviction in Australia should be valued far more then one in Thailand. 

 

Though i really would not be too surprised if he survives this given how things work in this country. 

"A conviction in Australia .....",   fake news- it was just an oversight of the Australian police and legal system.

[Artisi]

15 minutes ago, anchadian said:

https://twitter.com/KhaosodEnglish/status/1389860641574297601

 

Khaosod English

 

@KhaosodEnglish

 

· 1h

#BREAKING The Constitutional Court Wednesday rules that asst. agriculture minister Thammanat Prompao can retain his ministerial post depite being allegedly convicted of drug trafficking in Australia. The court said in its verdict that foreign convictions don't apply to Thailand.

But luckily, convictions in Thailand do count in Australia, seems to be some conflict in the respective laws of each country, or so it seems. 

[Artisi]

18 minutes ago, anchadian said:

https://twitter.com/KhaosodEnglish/status/1389860641574297601

 

Khaosod English

 

@KhaosodEnglish

 

· 1h

#BREAKING The Constitutional Court Wednesday rules that asst. agriculture minister Thammanat Prompao can retain his ministerial post depite being allegedly convicted of drug trafficking in Australia. The court said in its verdict that foreign convictions don't apply to Thailand.

being allegedly,  "was"  is the correct word usage here.