Two Thai people killed in Israel were on lunch break according to eyewitness

[snoop1130]

A screengrab from a video clip provided by one of the Thai workers in Israel, showing them sheltering under a farm truck during one the Hamas attacks.

 

The two Thai workers, killed in an attack by Hamas while on the Ohad Agricultural Estate in Israel, were on their lunch break, according to an eyewitness. The town is about 14 kilometers away from the Gaza strip.

 

Eyewitness, Panuwat JookJan, was taking his break in the same area as the two men who died. He told Thai PBS that they were trying to get to the safety of the bunker when the attack happened.

 

“The first two rockets were intercepted by the iron dome system, but the third one landed in front of the kitchen. After the first two rockets were intercepted, some people were trying to get to the nearby bunker. That was when the two men were killed by the rocket, right there.”

 

Full Story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/two-thai-people-killed-in-israel-were-on-lunch-break-according-to-eyewitness/

 

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[soi3eddie]

Saw this on the UK news last night. So sad for their Thai families. RIP.

 

[jmcet]

One of the young men killed was from our village. He had been in Israel for 3 days. So sad . RIP 

[SomchaiCNX]

RIP. Disgusting that (government)sponsored NGOs still support these terrorists.

[pat9126]

R.I.P

[jspill]

There have been 'dozens of unexplained deaths' of Thai workers in Israel over the years, and investigations into 'harrowing conditions', abuse by the Israeli employers and 'unsafe conditions' where they are overworked and underpaid. In total 172 worker deaths since 2012.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-middle-east-46311922

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-thailand-israel-workers-trfn-idUSKCN24M126

 

This is another sad way for them to die, being unsafe just ten miles or so from Gaza when violence flares up because of Israel's actions (throwing grenades into a Mosque earlier this month).

 

These Thais got caught in the crossfire of Palestinian retaliation but ultimately Israel is responsible for creating the conflict there and not keeping the migrant workers that it exploits safe.

 

It employs third world workers to work on the farms near conflict zones because they'll sadly put up with the risky conditions to send money home.

Edited May 20, 2021 by jspill

[jspill]

2 hours ago, SomchaiCNX said:

RIP. Disgusting that (government)sponsored NGOs still support these terrorists.

 

Yeah sad that the US gives $3.8 billion a year to zionist terrorists that killed hundreds of British soldiers, police officers and other servicemen in Palestine over the decades since they invaded and occupied it. 

[Logosone]

10 minutes ago, jspill said:

There have been 'dozens of unexplained deaths' of Thai workers in Israel over the years, and investigations into 'harrowing conditions', abuse by the Israeli employers and 'unsafe conditions' where they are overworked and underpaid. In total 172 worker deaths since 2012.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-middle-east-46311922

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-thailand-israel-workers-trfn-idUSKCN24M126

 

This is another sad way for them to die, being unsafe just ten miles or so from Gaza when violence flares up because of Israel's actions (throwing grenades into a Mosque earlier this month).

 

These Thais got caught in the crossfire of Palestinian retaliation but ultimately Israel is responsible for creating the conflict there and not keeping the migrant workers that it exploits safe.

 

It employs third world workers to work on the farms near conflict zones because they'll sadly put up with the risky conditions to send money home.

 

I could not agree more, Israel is responsible for creating the conflict.

 

It was their responsibility to keep these poor Thai manual workers safe, but sadly their much vaunted "iron dome" appears to be overhyped metal junk.

[SomchaiCNX]

35 minutes ago, jspill said:

 

Yeah sad that the US gives $3.8 billion a year to zionist terrorists that killed hundreds of British soldiers, police officers and other servicemen in Palestine over the decades since they invaded and occupied it. 

And why the British soldier were there in the first place? I'm not a supporter of the Israeli regime nor do I support the colonisation by Jewish settlers but they have the right to defend themselves against these criminals from the Gaza strip. And please point out one jew who would refuse money if it is offered to him. Like the IRA in the past they are supported by those fellow believers who immigrated to the US. This situation is a man made disaster by the useless UN.

[Logosone]

21 minutes ago, SomchaiCNX said:

And why the British soldier were there in the first place? I'm not a supporter of the Israeli regime nor do I support the colonisation by Jewish settlers but they have the right to defend themselves against these criminals from the Gaza strip. And please point out one jew who would refuse money if it is offered to him. Like the IRA in the past they are supported by those fellow believers who immigrated to the US. This situation is a man made disaster by the useless UN.

 

Really the British caused the disaster by messing up Palestine completely and indulging the Zionists due to religious lunacy. 

 

But the notion that Israel is "defending" itself by murdering 6 month old children with air strikes and other civilians who threw no bombs, sent no missiles, but were at home minding their own business is even more false.

 

The murder of civilians is always a war crime. The IDF has killed 61 children. Anyone who defends it is beyond the pale.

[bangon04]

6 hours ago, Logosone said:

 

Really the British caused the disaster by messing up Palestine completely and indulging the Zionists due to religious lunacy. 

 

But the notion that Israel is "defending" itself by murdering 6 month old children with air strikes and other civilians who threw no bombs, sent no missiles, but were at home minding their own business is even more false.

 

The murder of civilians is always a war crime. The IDF has killed 61 children. Anyone who defends it is beyond the pale.

We cannot criticize the policies of the State of Israel - unless we wish to be labelled Antisemitic. WOKE culture at its finest....

[Jingthing]

29 minutes ago, bangon04 said:

We cannot criticize the policies of the State of Israel - unless we wish to be labelled Antisemitic. WOKE culture at its finest....

Your assertion is totally false.

Some is and some isn't, and really it isn't all that difficult to tell the difference.

On this forum there are ample examples of both kinds.

But here's some help for people:

How to tell when criticism of Israel is actually anti-Semitism - The Washington Post

 

To add, I find your comment about "WOKE" culture both absurd and hilarious. Anyone that's been paying attention would know that "WOKE" culture leans heavily towards extreme demonization of Israel.

Wokeness goes to war – The Forward

 

Edited May 20, 2021 by Jingthing

[jspill]

1 hour ago, SomchaiCNX said:

And why the British soldier were there in the first place? 

 

They were trying to set up Israel in a way that was fair and equitable for the Arabs, to share land and limit the number of Jews that could immigrate in a certain period of time. Zionist groups blew up one of their boats, the SS Patria, bombed the British HQ at the King David hotel, and hung some British sergeants from trees with piano wire and booby trapped their dead bodies. The British gave up and left the zionists to it after a few years and Israel basically does what it wants regardless of the UN.

[Scott]

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[balo]

They should have been warned to never visit Israel for that kind of job.  It's really a gamble with your life.   

[bangon04]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Your assertion is totally false.

Some is and some isn't, and really it isn't all that difficult to tell the difference.

On this forum there are ample examples of both kinds.

But here's some help for people:

How to tell when criticism of Israel is actually anti-Semitism - The Washington Post

 

To add, I find your comment about "WOKE" culture both absurd and hilarious. Anyone that's been paying attention would know that "WOKE" culture leans heavily towards extreme demonization of Israel.

Wokeness goes to war – The Forward

 

well if you are going to quote the Forward as a balanced source, why not just quote Christians United for Israel (CUFI)

[jspill]

Just now, Jingthing said:

To add, I find your comment about "WOKE" culture both absurd and hilarious. Anyone that's been paying attention would know that "WOKE" culture leans heavily towards extreme demonization of Israel.

Wokeness goes to war – The Forward

 

Woke criticism of Israel is extremely weak and tepid, what has it ever really achieved? Nothing.  

 

They refer to it being 'white supremacy' rather than Jewish supremacy, only focus on the Netanyahu administration and are always on the back foot asserting that antizionism isn't antisemitism and Israel still has a right to exist but just less violently. 

 

If it were a White Christian settler colony they'd be calling to declare war on it, we'd never see that kind of walking on eggshells. The woke crowd is very tightly controlled and know that any serious critique of zionism is career suicide. There's a good documentary on the lengths zionists go to to control the narrative on universities, called The Lobby, a US and UK version.

[jspill]

Just now, Jingthing said:

Your assertion is totally false.

Some is and some isn't, and really it isn't all that difficult to tell the difference.

On this forum there are ample examples of both kinds.

But here's some help for people:

How to tell when criticism of Israel is actually anti-Semitism - The Washington Post

 

People are branded as antisemites and lose their job all the time for criticism that isn't antisemitic. Guardian columnist Nathan Robinson was sacked recently, Kevin Myers at the Sunday Times was sacked, they are both left wing and only made mild criticisms.

[LomSak27]

13 hours ago, jspill said:

Yeah sad that the US gives $3.8 billion a year to zionist terrorists that killed hundreds of British soldiers, police officers and other servicemen in Palestine over the decades since they invaded and occupied it. 

 

With all due respect, you left out the Balfour Declaration, the British role in creating this mess. The jews would not have been there in numbers, had the British not invaded and occupied it in WWI. Britain promised it to both the Jews and Arabs for services rendered in that war. Selling Palestine twice, and selling something never really theirs. Not surprising, it all came a cropper. 

BTW, Orde Wingate is considered the Father of The Israeli Defense Force. A fact conveniently forgotten in today's United Kingdom.

Back to the present. Hamas and Israel have declared a cease fire. Hopefully it will hold and more needless deaths, like the Thai workers, will be prevented. 

[SomchaiCNX]

7 hours ago, jspill said:

 

They were trying to set up Israel in a way that was fair and equitable for the Arabs, to share land and limit the number of Jews that could immigrate in a certain period of time. Zionist groups blew up one of their boats, the SS Patria, bombed the British HQ at the King David hotel, and hung some British sergeants from trees with piano wire and booby trapped their dead bodies. The British gave up and left the zionists to it after a few years and Israel basically does what it wants regardless of the UN.

You forgot to mention  a small detail that the British took control of that area after WWI in other words colonised that place. THat's the main reason why they were there. I do not support the tactics used but can understand them. Remember IRA tactics? 

[Jingthing]

5 hours ago, jspill said:

 

People are branded as antisemites and lose their job all the time for criticism that isn't antisemitic. Guardian columnist Nathan Robinson was sacked recently, Kevin Myers at the Sunday Times was sacked, they are both left wing and only made mild criticisms.

Don't know exactly what they said so not inclined to just take your word for how you characterize it. Of course it's wrong to punish people for normal criticism of Israeli policies. 

[Jingthing]

6 hours ago, jspill said:

 

Woke criticism of Israel is extremely weak and tepid, what has it ever really achieved? Nothing.  

 

They refer to it being 'white supremacy' rather than Jewish supremacy, only focus on the Netanyahu administration and are always on the back foot asserting that antizionism isn't antisemitism and Israel still has a right to exist but just less violently. 

 

If it were a White Christian settler colony they'd be calling to declare war on it, we'd never see that kind of walking on eggshells. The woke crowd is very tightly controlled and know that any serious critique of zionism is career suicide. There's a good documentary on the lengths zionists go to to control the narrative on universities, called The Lobby, a US and UK version.

Wow. So it sounds like you don't think Israel has a right to exist. That is very extremist. Similar to Hamas. As far as the implication that Zionism in itself is a bad thing, Zionism is simply the belief in the right of the Jewish people to self determination. It doesn't mean support for any particular Israeli government policy. 

[bangon04]

6 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Wow. So it sounds like you don't think Israel has a right to exist. That is very extremist. Similar to Hamas. As far as the implication that Zionism in itself is a bad thing, Zionism is simply the belief in the right of the Jewish people to self determination. It doesn't mean support for any particular Israeli government policy. 

but if it looks like ethnic cleansing, and it sounds like ethnic cleansing, and it smells like ethnic cleansing..........

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, bangon04 said:

but if it looks like ethnic cleansing, and it sounds like ethnic cleansing, and it smells like ethnic cleansing..........

Wait a second buddy. 

Have you checked out the population INCREASES in the West Bank?

The 20 percent of Israeli citizens that are Arab?
Nothing remotely resembling ethnic cleansing. That's just a anti-Israel slur and outright LIES like that need to be called out every time. 

 

[bangon04]

Just now, Jingthing said:

Wait a second buddy. 

Have you checked out the population INCREASES in the West Bank?

The 20 percent of Israeli citizens that are Arab?
Nothing remotely resembling ethnic cleansing. That's just a anti-Israel slur and outright LIES like that need to be called out every time. 

 

The Israeli government is protected by the pro-Zionist lobby in the US. The settlements appear to be at the expense of the current inhabitants. If it was in Bosnia or Azerbaijan the UN would be jumping up and down screaming......

[bangon04]

7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Wait a second buddy. 

Have you checked out the population INCREASES in the West Bank?

The 20 percent of Israeli citizens that are Arab?
Nothing remotely resembling ethnic cleansing. That's just a anti-Israel slur and outright LIES like that need to be called out every time. 

 

In the population INCREASES did you include the nearly 1 million Russian immigrants?

[Jingthing]

8 minutes ago, bangon04 said:

In the population INCREASES did you include the nearly 1 million Russian immigrants?

I was clearly referring to Arabs that identify as Palestinians in the West Bank. 

[Jingthing]

15 minutes ago, bangon04 said:

The Israeli government is protected by the pro-Zionist lobby in the US. The settlements appear to be at the expense of the current inhabitants. If it was in Bosnia or Azerbaijan the UN would be jumping up and down screaming......

As if Zionism is a bad thing. Zionism is about political self determination for the Jewish people. I'm assuming you want that for Arabs that identify as Palestinians, right? So why good for them but bad for the Jews?

To be clear, many POLICIES of the state of Israel are clearly bad, as are many POLICIES on the Arab side. But policies and Zionism are not the same thing. 

Edited May 21, 2021 by Jingthing

[bangon04]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

As if Zionism is a bad thing. Zionism is about political self determination for the Jewish people. I'm assuming you want that for Arabs that identify as Palestinians, right? So why good for them but bad for the Jews?

To be clear, many POLICIES of the state of Israel are clearly bad, as are many POLICIES on the Arab side. But policies and Zionism are not the same thing. 

I agree with you. It is a very messy situation. I cannot help but feel that the current Israeli government will never negotiate in good faith unless it feels a lot more pressure from the outside world. In the meantime we lurch from one mess to another mess. As previous posters pointed out the British were partially responsible for the mess, but on the other hand after 70+ years we should be in a better place now...

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, bangon04 said:

I agree with you. It is a very messy situation. I cannot help but feel that the current Israeli government will never negotiate in good faith unless it feels a lot more pressure from the outside world. In the meantime we lurch from one mess to another mess. As previous posters pointed out the British were partially responsible for the mess, but on the other hand after 70+ years we should be in a better place now...

I would add to that I don't see any evidence that the Palestinian side, particularly Hamas can be expected to negotiate in good faith either. They're still marching around the world with their scary River to the Sea mantra.