Popular Post bbabythai Posted August 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2021 Obviously the vaccine rollout has been mismanaged in Thailand. The purpose of this thread is to show that the 'powers to be' are making some sensible decisions based on the current circumstances. Months ago, all frontline medical staff around Thailand were given 2 jabs of the Sinovac vaccine. My wife is a Dr and we have numerous staff at our private clinic. They were all vaccinated with Sinovac as well. Evidently China sold Thailand a sub-standard vaccine with poor efficacy. The Ministry of Public Health in Bkk have known this for ages and now they are offering a Pfizer booster as soon as possible. Today they called my wife and asked if she would prefer the Pfizer or AZ as a booster. She told them she wanted the Pfizer. Our nurses were not offered the booster at this time. Unbeknown to this happening, a few weeks ago I pre-paid booster Moderna jabs for everyone via one of the big private hospitals in bkk. I also pre-paid 2 jabs for their partners. I think this will be available in Q4 this year. The point of this discussion is that the government, in conjunction with the department of health, are already making sensible decisions by vaccinating all front line medical professionals in the country. They are the backbone of the health system subjected to the highest risks. 7 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOTT FITZGERSLD Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, bbabythai said: The point of this discussion is that the government, in conjunction with the department of health, are already making sensible decisions by vaccinating it is not about desicions sir. it is about availability of the vaccines. they simply could not get it few months ago, even now stocks are limited. no mattar how much you want to pay. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AwwYesNice1 Posted August 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2021 Quote The point of this discussion is that the government, in conjunction with the department of health, are already making sensible decisions by vaccinating all front line medical professionals in the country. They were gifted millions of doses of mRNA vaccine that is still unaccounted for. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post steve187 Posted August 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, AwwYesNice1 said: They were gifted millions of doses of mRNA vaccine that is still unaccounted for. it is being offered to medical staff as per this thread, as well as non Thais through medpark, i made an appointment yesterday for a non Thai friend, he has a confirmation email for the 15th please keep up Edited August 2, 2021 by steve187 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internationalism Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 "Our nurses were not offered the booster at this time." so the government offered pfizer to 60k doctors, but not to nurses, some 500k of them in thailand. And 900k health volunteers, who do also care for covid patients at their isolating homes, are also not protected. All those 1.5mln donated pfizer should go to medics. All together there are 1.mln of them in thailand, so just one shot to everybody. By the time more pfizer and moderna arrives, in quantity they would be at the beginning of the next year, it would be time for boosters 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bangkokhatter Posted August 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 3, 2021 Whilst correctly highlighting the incredible job the Health professionals are doing during this pandemic there is no way you can seriously give any credit to the Government or Department of Health for their seriously botched attempts at vaccine roll-out. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwwYesNice1 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 9 hours ago, steve187 said: it is being offered to medical staff as per this thread, as well as non Thais through medpark, i made an appointment yesterday for a non Thai friend, he has a confirmation email for the 15th please keep up Sherm, millions of high quality mRNA vaccines have gone unaccounted for. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcpu Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 With Pfizer being offered as a booster, I am hoping that some in the medical (scientific ? ) community in Thailand eventually produces a study on Pfizer (and eventually Moderna) as a 2nd and/or booster jab to Sinovac, and then get such study peer reviewed, and published. I have seen Sinovac + AstraZeneca mix preliminary results (to an ongoing study) , and seen a few (UK, German, Spanish) studies to the Astra-Zeneca/Pfizer mix, ... but no studies yet involving Sinovac and an mRNA vaccine. This is a lot of opportunity to present the (hopefully) improved efficacy of such vaccine mixing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Good to know that these donated vaccines are going to get to the right people. Too bad Sinovac 2X isn't good enough though. Kind of a wasted effort. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve187 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 1 hour ago, AwwYesNice1 said: Sherm, millions of high quality mRNA vaccines have gone unaccounted for. don't know how you get millions, Thailand only received its first 105million batch, donated by the USA on Friday, please don't post fake news, getting a covid jab is an important subject for most people in Thailand 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhounan Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Pay attention of what she sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beano2274 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 13 minutes ago, steve187 said: don't know how you get millions, Thailand only received its first 105million batch, donated by the USA on Friday, please don't post fake news, getting a covid jab is an important subject for most people in Thailand believe you have added an extra 0 in the amount of donated vaccines!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneZero Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 53 minutes ago, beano2274 said: believe you have added an extra 0 in the amount of donated vaccines!!! 1.5 million 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyf Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 On 8/2/2021 at 10:58 PM, AwwYesNice1 said: They were gifted millions of doses of mRNA vaccine that is still unaccounted for. You should back that statement up with the dates these "gifts" actually arrived. What western leaders say and what they do are miles apart. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Yes, there are some sensible, wise people in the government. Sadly, some like Anutin, have sold their soul. It's hard when they have the public screaming for resignation, and now the powers that be showing their displeasure. On the whole, it is preposterous to suggest they are doing a good job. If you think this, you obviously don't know the real story. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnative Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Why weren't the nurses offered the booster, too? They are at least at the same risk as doctors. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSBones Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 I got the AZ jab yesterday. Applied on Sat, notified on Mon, jabbed on Tues. Once you find an app/website that works it seems to be quite quick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internationalism Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 (edited) what application is working? I have just tried to register on sinopharm one - for the last 30 minutes I am waiting to enter more personal details, system overload. And now registration is closed, till the next Wednesday - just like lottery time for fun Edited August 4, 2021 by internationalism 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codemonkey Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 On 8/2/2021 at 3:58 PM, AwwYesNice1 said: They were gifted millions of doses of mRNA vaccine that is still unaccounted for. As of Aug 02-2021 Thailand has administered >18 million covid doses. Unless you can convince me the reporting is incorrect, your claim is baseless, unfounded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beano2274 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 11 minutes ago, codemonkey said: As of Aug 02-2021 Thailand has administered >18 million covid doses. Unless you can convince me the reporting is incorrect, your claim is baseless, unfounded. Great chart, does not break it down into mRNA vaccines or others though, so the question from the other poster is still unanswered, if he/she can prove that gifts were sent and received. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codemonkey Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 (edited) 52 minutes ago, internationalism said: what application is working? I have just tried to register on sinopharm one - for the last 30 minutes I am waiting to enter more personal details, system overload. And now registration is closed, till the next Wednesday - just like lottery time for fun My computer illiterate neighbor (assisted by my staff) just CONFIRMED Sinopharm at some BKK hospital and is awaiting payment invoice of 770 baht/dose. Apparently there is pay (Sinopharm) and non-pay (Sinovac) option for Thai's on this particular vaccine registration website. Edited August 4, 2021 by codemonkey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codemonkey Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, beano2274 said: Great chart, does not break it down into mRNA vaccines or others though, so the question from the other poster is still unanswered, if he/she can prove that gifts were sent and received. What question are you referring to? (maybe you are confused) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 I am still patiently waiting. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 1 hour ago, newnative said: Why weren't the nurses offered the booster, too? They are at least at the same risk as doctors. Thailand has a very strict, hierarchical social structure of which doctors are on the top rung for professions. Nurses are treated like servants. Many doctors have an over-inflated ego, with the constant obeisance they get from the underlings. Nurse do far more work than doctors, who are often working just because they come from a middle-class family. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internationalism Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, codemonkey said: My computer illiterate neighbor (assisted by my staff) just CONFIRMED Sinopharm at some BKK hospital and is awaiting payment invoice of 770 baht/dose. I am computer literate but sinopharm page went blank on me after 15 minutes of waiting in line and downloaded application is malfunctional. All proves, that it's a lottery, sheer luck Edited August 4, 2021 by internationalism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbabythai Posted August 4, 2021 Author Share Posted August 4, 2021 18 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Many doctors have an over-inflated ego, with the constant obeisance they get from the underlings. Nurse do far more work than doctors, who are often working just because they come from a middle-class family. Get real!! Dr's have to do minimum 6 years intensive university course followed by specialist qualifications. They do surgery and save lives. Please avoid writing about things you have no idea about 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codemonkey Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 17 minutes ago, internationalism said: I am computer literate but sinopharm page went blank on me after 15 minutes of waiting in line and downloaded application is malfunctional. All proves, that it's a lottery, sheer luck I don't know <deleted> is going on with these vaccine registrations. They also registered a Brit (>60 years) and a Thai male (<50 years age) from the locale in the same session a few moments ago. I will ask them for the details on exactly how they are doing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internationalism Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 since around 11:00 sinopharm website and application have the same message: "the system is closed for registration in this round. Please wait for the next round (every Wednesday)". nothing can be done for a week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony125 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 20 hours ago, AwwYesNice1 said: Sherm, millions of high quality mRNA vaccines have gone unaccounted for. Are you reporting on rumurs? They never ordered any Mrna vaccines ( Moderna--Pfizer) till about 2 weeks ago and the only Mrna vaccine gifted so far to Thailand is the 1.5 million Pfizer that was verified by the US Embassy. A liitle over 1 million AZ vaccine was donated by Japan but that is not a Mrna vaccine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 33 minutes ago, bbabythai said: Get real!! Dr's have to do minimum 6 years intensive university course followed by specialist qualifications. They do surgery and save lives. Please avoid writing about things you have no idea about I used to teach student doctors at Khon Kaen university, I know a lot about it, a few doctors in my family too. Many pay their way through university, accounting for the many terrible ones here. I have a good friend from the US who was struck off there. Paid $50k to bypass the exams here and get registered. I could go on and on but can't be bothered. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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