Yet again we have a discrepancy in the figures.

 

Health officials on Wednesday (Sept 8th reported 129 new COVID-19 cases, 66 of which were found in Hua Hin.

Elsewhere in the province, 20 cases were found in Pranburi, 2 cases in Sam Roi Yot, zero- case in Kuiburi, zero-cases in Thap Sakae, 4 cases in Bang Saphan, 2 cases in Bang Saphan Noi, and 35 cases in Mueang Prachuap Khiri Khan.

 

Sept 8: Prachuap reports 129 new COVID-19 cases, 66 cases in Hua Hin - Hua Hin Today English Newspaper Info, Reports, Events and News Social Life

 

Even allowing for 28 cases in Prachuap prison there is still a difference of 15. Not as bad as other times but still wrong.

Edited September 9, 20214 yr by worrab
reword

7 minutes ago, anchadian said:

New emergency law planned as official says half the people in Bangkok may have contracted COVID

 

The Thai Council of State is currently reviewing a draft public health emergency law which will come to parliament in November to replace the Emergency Decree which is due to be rescinded. This may create a new body to replace the Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) which may even be larger than the current government unit directing the country’s response to the crisis.

 

https://www.thaiexaminer.com/thai-news-foreigners/2021/09/09/new-emergency-law-planned-to-fight-virus/

Looking at the linked article and reading this kind of does amaze me that that many have been possibly infected.  However, at the same time with many of those I know who in February and March of last year had long lasting cold like symptoms, along with a deep cough, which took over two weeks to go away, and then another month before I could return to even walking long distance at the park, it makes sense.  Back then when I tried to get tested I was told I could not as I did not meet the parameters at the time.  Then over the past few months having had family and friends come down sick and only be tested with the ATK tests you have to believe that this quote could be correct.

 

"An official with the Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) has estimated that as many as 7 million people in Bangkok may have already contracted or had the COVID-19 virus. That is half the population of the Bangkok Metropolitan area which has a population of 14 million people approximately"

 

As was my mantra a year ago and is what i still believe "Test and you will find" i think is the truth.  Thailand for whatever reason decided to test very small numbers instead of mass testing throughout the country.  Yes many folks were able to survive while being at home, but this also allowed the virus to spread unabated.  Never once did the country try and get out ahead of the cases they were finding, and as such it created another issue as far as vaccinating folks.  They have now gone back into Khlong Toei where they had a large number infected almost 6 months ago, and they basically closed the slum area down for almost a month at that time while they did vaccinate those folks.  They are now seeing a large infection rate popping back up due to Delta.  As always stay safe and protect yourselves and family.  I will be getting my second AZ vaccine next week after 12 weeks between jabs, while many others have already been double vaccinated with the Pfizer and the Sinovac AZ combo.

The positivity rate yesterday was almost 40% from the very few tests they are doing.

 

Can you imagine the horror numbers we would be seeing if they were doing 1,000,000 tests a day like the UK. 

3 hours ago, anchadian said:

Today there were 220 deaths in #Thailand

 

108 males & 112 females

Burmese (4), American (1), Unknown (2)

Median age 69 (19-102 years)

1 pregnant woman died

Most deaths in Bangkok (43)

72% of deaths aged 60+

2 died at home

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1435847118208397316

Why are there still people dying at home. This just should not be happening now, still a lack of readily available testing and rapid hospital care can be the only reasons

The Minister of Public Health says he is now considering allowing the Pfizer vaccination for all children aged 12 years and over without any conditions so that they can all go back to school

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1435900383428157450

 

3 minutes ago, anchadian said:

The Minister of Public Health says he is now considering allowing the Pfizer vaccination for all children aged 12 years and over without any conditions so that they can all go back to school

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1435900383428157450

 

That would be a great decision if we didn’t have all sorts of data from other parts of the world saying kids being in school represents no significant problem. 

Compared  to deaths in traffic accidents?

14 minutes ago, Benmart said:

Compared  to deaths in traffic accidents?

Approx 15- 20,000/ year for the past decade at a cost of approx 500 billion baht/ year……….and that’s apparently being selective with the numbers.  
 

Gives it a bit more perspective. 

Edited September 9, 20214 yr by Kadilo

 

Can anyone explain this? I just refreshed the page and it seems like walk-in's greatly increased. All other numbers are the same as reported earlier.

 

Sorry, link here https://ddc.moph.go.th/covid19-dashboard/?dashboard=province

 

Edited September 9, 20214 yr by PythonHouse
didnt include link

 

Phuket Lines Up Covid Boosters Before Tourists Arrive in Thailand

 

Residents on the Thai resort island of Phuket will get a third dose of vaccine to shield them from a resurgence in Covid-19 outbreak ahead ...

 

(Paywall)

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-09-09/thailand-s-tourist-gateway-lines-up-booster-shots-for-residents

Edited September 9, 20214 yr by anchadian

1 hour ago, ThailandRyan said:

Looking at the linked article and reading this kind of does amaze me that that many have been possibly infected.  However, at the same time with many of those I know who in February and March of last year had long lasting cold like symptoms, along with a deep cough, which took over two weeks to go away, and then another month before I could return to even walking long distance at the park, it makes sense.  Back then when I tried to get tested I was told I could not as I did not meet the parameters at the time.  Then over the past few months having had family and friends come down sick and only be tested with the ATK tests you have to believe that this quote could be correct.

 

"An official with the Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) has estimated that as many as 7 million people in Bangkok may have already contracted or had the COVID-19 virus. That is half the population of the Bangkok Metropolitan area which has a population of 14 million people approximately"

 

Tend to agree with you. I was in Thailand January and first week of February 2020, visited Chiang Mai, Bangkok, Pattaya as well as a trip to Laos. Last week of January came down with a persistent light cough and so did my girlfriend. Put it down to been in the highly polluted air of Bangkok and Chiang Mai for a few weeks. Flew back to UK where they weren't even worried about covid at beginning of February. Cough passed in a few weeks but couple of weeks later felt really lethargic, no motivation to do much, then noticed getting out of breath easily. Thought nothing of it but looking back and seeing how friends were after having covid I could quite possibly have had it then, picked up in Thailand.

24 minutes ago, PythonHouse said:

 

Can anyone explain this? I just refreshed the page and it seems like walk-in's greatly increased. All other numbers are the same as reported earlier.

 

Sorry, link here https://ddc.moph.go.th/covid19-dashboard/?dashboard=province

 

Yesterday's walk-ins were 11,940 and today's 12,436.

 

The above infographic was posted late today so possibly someone had a slight headache and inputted the incorrect figure.

It's all getting ridiculous -  this constant updating of inaccurate data that so many seem to take as truth. This thing, now unleashed from China is undoubtedly with us eternally so time to move on, accepting that fact, living as normally as possible. The looming catastrophe is this irrational  sole focus on this, to the factual detriment of myriad other conditions, most of which have graver consequences than this novo virus.

It has never been more important to take responsibility for personal health and fitness and not simply rely on vaccines of varying efficaciousness. 

At some point it will be  time to stop testing, apart form sample genome testing to identify mutations that could potentially be more difficult to manage.

The chance of eradicating this new virus is zero. 

Data is only significant if accurate and in context - UK can and and does test ad nauseum and can find 30 000 cases if it wastes resources and carries out half a million tests, or it could find a fraction of those cases if it tests incrementally less. Neither figure has any importance unless a govt is seeking to either terrify the timid or reassure them. Figures are politics not absolute science.

 

Time to move as there is a lot more to life, or there was until so many became so obsessed with this intractable problem.

 

 

1 hour ago, Benmart said:

Compared  to deaths in traffic accidents?

Think about it just a little bit, when is the last time in Thailand that ICU’s were full and turning patients away, or hospitals had to close through lack of beds, or the whole health system was crippled in such a short space of time, times that by 10 if there had been no measures put in place. You may then come to the conclusion that you’re totally off base and comparing apples to oranges.

8 minutes ago, Paul Christian said:

It's all getting ridiculous -  this constant updating of inaccurate data that so many seem to take as truth. This thing, now unleashed from China is undoubtedly with us eternally so time to move on, accepting that fact, living as normally as possible. The looming catastrophe is this irrational  sole focus on this, to the factual detriment of myriad other conditions, most of which have graver consequences than this novo virus.

It has never been more important to take responsibility for personal health and fitness and not simply rely on vaccines of varying efficaciousness. 

At some point it will be  time to stop testing, apart form sample genome testing to identify mutations that could potentially be more difficult to manage.

The chance of eradicating this new virus is zero. 

Data is only significant if accurate and in context - UK can and and does test ad nauseum and can find 30 000 cases if it wastes resources and carries out half a million tests, or it could find a fraction of those cases if it tests incrementally less. Neither figure has any importance unless a govt is seeking to either terrify the timid or reassure them. Figures are politics not absolute science.

 

Time to move as there is a lot more to life, or there was until so many became so obsessed with this intractable problem.

 

 

Excellent  post. Thanks for sharing. 

Edited September 9, 20214 yr by Kadilo

3 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

Think about it just a little bit, when is the last time in Thailand that ICU’s were full and turning patients away, or hospitals had to close through lack of beds, or the whole health system was crippled in such a short space of time, times that by 10 if there had been no measures put in place. You may then come to the conclusion that you’re totally off base and comparing apples to oranges.

Yep.98% of apples wont kill  you! 

1 hour ago, anchadian said:

 

Phuket Lines Up Covid Boosters Before Tourists Arrive in Thailand

 

Residents on the Thai resort island of Phuket will get a third dose of vaccine to shield them from a resurgence in Covid-19 outbreak ahead ...

 

(Paywall)

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-09-09/thailand-s-tourist-gateway-lines-up-booster-shots-for-residents

Full article:

https://www.bloombergquint.com/onweb/thailand-s-tourist-gateway-lines-up-booster-shots-for-residents

Thailand’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs refutes accusations of international vaccine non-cooperation

 

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs’ Spokesperson has denied Thailand has refused COVID-19 vaccine cooperation with other countries, insisting that all its efforts are in the national interest.

 

Tanee Sangrat, Foreign Affairs spokesperson and Director-General of the Department of Information, says the allegations are unfounded in any way as the department does everything possible for Thais, and foreigners residing in Thailand, to ensure access to the vaccine as soon as possible, including facilitating an exchange of vaccines and receiving vaccine assistance from allied countries.

 

https://www.pattayamail.com/thailandnews/thailands-ministry-of-foreign-affairs-refutes-accusations-of-international-vaccine-non-cooperation-371256

13 minutes ago, Paul Christian said:

 

 

Time to move as there is a lot more to life, or there was until so many became so obsessed with this intractable problem.

 

 

Everybody wants to move on but Thailand mucked up its vaccine procurement so in the meantime many of us do stay healthy, hope we don’t catch the virus and wait to get vaccinated. Those who are already vaccinated like myself need to be selfless and wait for all the others especially the at risk groups to also receive the life saving shot

8 minutes ago, Olmate said:

Yep.98% of apples wont kill  you! 

Something else to crumble

about!!

Bangkok Hospital Pattaya now allowing registration for a Covid-19 vaccine for foreigners 18+

 

https://thepattayanews.com/2021/09/09/bangkok-hospital-pattaya-now-allowing-registration-for-a-covid-19-vaccine-for-foreigners-18/

 

 

14 minutes ago, Olmate said:

Yep.98% of apples wont kill  you! 

How many and what percentage do you think that would be had there been no measures in place? That percentage crippled the health care system but as you find that amusing I very much doubt you care. 

15 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

How many and what percentage do you think that would be had there been no measures in place? That percentage crippled the health care system but as you find that amusing I very much doubt you care. 

Doubt away sunshine...    them,s the facts! 

6 hours ago, Eibot said:

Just keep vaccinating.

 

At the current rate of 667k jabs per day, Thailand will hit 70% fully vaccinated on December the 8th of this year.

 

Keeping in mind that Israel is a little above 60% and the states a little above 50%, this seems promising.

 

Although infections may keep rising, deaths should stagnate and go down soon.

 

 

But the question is where o where are they getting 20 million doses a month from ???? 

55 minutes ago, Swimfan said:

But the question is where o where are they getting 20 million doses a month from ???? 

According to the Reuters article below, they should be getting more than 120 million doses by year end.

 

Quote

The delivery would bring Thailand's total vaccine supply for 2021 to over 120 million doses, of which 61 million from AstraZeneca and a combination of 30 million doses of China's Sinovac and 30 million from Pfizer-BioNTech 

Thailand to receive 61 mln doses of AstraZeneca vaccine this year

2 hours ago, anchadian said:

Yesterday's walk-ins were 11,940 and today's 12,436.

 

The above infographic was posted late today so possibly someone had a slight headache and inputted the incorrect figure.

 

Fixed already

 

1 hour ago, Olmate said:

Doubt away sunshine...    them,s the facts! 

What facts are you talking about? You missed the full content of my post and focus on apples, why not elaborate if you can, asking too much I know

Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) WHO Thailand Situation Report 200 - 9 September 2021

https://reliefweb.int/report/thailand/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19-who-thailand-situation-report-200-9-september-2021

59 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

According to the Reuters article below, they should be getting more than 120 million doses by year end.

 

Thailand to receive 61 mln doses of AstraZeneca vaccine this year

This is the latest estimate from the government on the 29th Aug. So long as they all arrive on time:

 

For the remainder of the year, Sept = 15.3m. Oct = 24m. Nov = 23m. and Dec = 23m.

https://www.hfocus.org/content/2021/08/22866

 

 

 

 

10 hours ago, Paul Christian said:

It's all getting ridiculous -  this constant updating of inaccurate data that so many seem to take as truth. This thing, now unleashed from China is undoubtedly with us eternally so time to move on, accepting that fact, living as normally as possible. The looming catastrophe is this irrational  sole focus on this, to the factual detriment of myriad other conditions, most of which have graver consequences than this novo virus.

It has never been more important to take responsibility for personal health and fitness and not simply rely on vaccines of varying efficaciousness. 

At some point it will be  time to stop testing, apart form sample genome testing to identify mutations that could potentially be more difficult to manage.

The chance of eradicating this new virus is zero. 

Data is only significant if accurate and in context - UK can and and does test ad nauseum and can find 30 000 cases if it wastes resources and carries out half a million tests, or it could find a fraction of those cases if it tests incrementally less. Neither figure has any importance unless a govt is seeking to either terrify the timid or reassure them. Figures are politics not absolute science.

 

Time to move as there is a lot more to life, or there was until so many became so obsessed with this intractable problem.

 

 

They said that about Polio, too.