Buy House with a view, where to look, Pattaya area

[questionsreplies]

hello,

 

I want to buy a house, but not a house with a wall view as 99% house that I visited.

 

I want a house without anybody in front but with nature view or sea view.

 

Which area around Pattaya should I look ?

 

Thanks for your useful replies.

[Cherrytreeview]

Don't buy anything in Thailand.

You'll start losing money from the day the ink is dry on the contract.

Buy a property in your own country and use the rental income to fund a rental in Thailand.

At the moment, you will be able to negotiate a fantastic rental deal.

Rents are on the floor.

[Will B Good]

18 minutes ago, Cherrytreeview said:

Don't buy anything in Thailand.

You'll start losing money from the day the ink is dry on the contract.

Buy a property in your own country and use the rental income to fund a rental in Thailand.

At the moment, you will be able to negotiate a fantastic rental deal.

Rents are on the floor.

Agree 100%....buying is not the way to go, even when rents are not rock bottom.

 

Just checked rents in my condo in BKK (yes I know this is a Pattaya forum), they were running around 30k/month before covid, one is now being advertised at 14k and most around 17k.

Edited October 7, 2021 by Will B Good

[Cherrytreeview]

3 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

Agree 100%....buying is not the way to go, even when rents are not rock bottom.

 

Just checked rents in my condo in BKK (yes I know this is a Pattaya forum), they were running around 30k/month before covid, one is now being advertised at 14k and most around 17k.

You can pick up Soi Bukahow 15, condo rentals for 5000 baht a month.

How many of these condo and housing developments are getting maintenance payments from farangs stuck abroad?

 

[Kinnock]

Ah yes, the don't buy a house in Thailand or the sky will fall in brigade are out again.

 

There are many reasons people may want to buy a house here, and return on investment may not be one.

 

The smaller towns either side of Pattaya may be the best bet.  Bang Saray, Sriracha etc.

 

If it's not too far from Pattaya, Ang Sila is worth a look.  Reasonable prices, sea views, good seafood restaurants and coffee shops, great market.  

 

 

[3NUMBAS]

dont buy anything its madness right now for many years to come

[Peterw42]

Not many places in pattaya with houses that have an ocean view out the front door. Go on Google maps and check all the beachside roads.

Dongtan beach has a couple but literally 100s of millions of baht.

[LongTimeLurker]

1 hour ago, questionsreplies said:

hello,

 

I want to buy a house, but not a house with a wall view as 99% house that I visited.

 

I want a house without anybody in front but with nature view or sea view.

You could have a nature view or sea view painted on the wall?

[MrJ2U]

1 hour ago, Will B Good said:

Agree 100%....buying is not the way to go, even when rents are not rock bottom.

 

Just checked rents in my condo in BKK (yes I know this is a Pattaya forum), they were running around 30k/month before covid, one is now being advertised at 14k and most around 17k.

Imagine you could get some really nice penthouse for 30k and above.

 

I would if I was younger and in the Pattaya/ Nakleu/Jomptien area.

 

 

[Guderian]

The problem here is that with so much building going on, once you buy your dream house with a lovely scenic view, somebody will come along and build a 30-storey condominium or hotel right in front of you. OK, so you buy something right by the beach, which will cost you not just an arm and a leg, but your firstborn too. Beautiful, until some budding entrepreneur decides to start up a 24-hour open-air karaoke bar on the beach in front of your house. Villages where your view is just the street outside your house are popular for many reasons, and one of them is that nobody will erect a giant hotel or condo in front of your house, or open a noisy business just across the road. Well, not as long as your village is properly managed, but nothing would surprise me here, lol.

[vukovar77]

19 hours ago, Cherrytreeview said:

Don't buy anything in Thailand.

You'll start losing money from the day the ink is dry on the contract.

Buy a property in your own country and use the rental income to fund a rental in Thailand.

At the moment, you will be able to negotiate a fantastic rental deal.

Rents are on the floor.

Now he can buy on bargain price 50% lower than average.On buyers market is better buy (than rent )at least one unit to live in.If you do not have money to buy than rent is good option.

[MrJ]

Siam Royl View top of Soi Khaotalo, but pricey - sea view house starting around 20M

[murraynz]

Pratumnak, starship etc etc.. But that sort of requirements, will be expensive... 

What is wrong with a condo.. 

Much better security, with amazing views.. 

Good breezes higher up, makes cooler and almost insect free.. 

[murraynz]

21 hours ago, Cherrytreeview said:

Don't buy anything in Thailand.

You'll start losing money from the day the ink is dry on the contract.

Buy a property in your own country and use the rental income to fund a rental in Thailand.

At the moment, you will be able to negotiate a fantastic rental deal.

Rents are on the floor.

Reasonable advise.. But I'm still very happy with my condo, after 5 yrs.. It has prime view etc. 

Will hold it's value... 

It's still only a fraction of what I would pay for a house in NZ and Australia.. 

I still have property in both those countries... Use them for cap gains. 

[bert bloggs]

We have a lovely detached house in the Banglamung area the view across the road is fabulous ,she has a great set of legs and a wonderful bum.

Mind you you only get the view a few times a day.

[EVENKEEL]

A house (not a condo) literally on the beach in Ban Chang is around 25 million.

[Cake Monster]

21 hours ago, Kinnock said:

Ah yes, the don't buy a house in Thailand or the sky will fall in brigade are out again.

 

There are many reasons people may want to buy a house here, and return on investment may not be one.

 

The smaller towns either side of Pattaya may be the best bet.  Bang Saray, Sriracha etc.

 

If it's not too far from Pattaya, Ang Sila is worth a look.  Reasonable prices, sea views, good seafood restaurants and coffee shops, great market.  

 

 

There are land plots / houses for sale in all the Villages around Pattaya.

You need to get mobile and visit these areas to look for your Views and such.

Then you need to find a piece of land, or the house you may be interested in.

You will not find so much land or House within 10 km or so of Pattaya ( even in the smaller Coastal Towns ) that have the views / nature you are wanting., and also the land prices Etc are high compared to slightly inland.

[olfu]

My understanding was farang cannot buy a house only lease.

[mrfill]

21 hours ago, Peterw42 said:

Not many places in pattaya with houses that have an ocean view out the front door. Go on Google maps and check all the beachside roads.

Dongtan beach has a couple but literally 100s of millions of baht.

Ah, so for senior police officers only....

[newnative]

   As others have said, it's difficult to find seaview houses around Pattaya and if you do they are likely quite expensive.  You might consider a condo project like Garden Cliff 1 in Wong Amat.  It's a small 6 story project of about 30 large condos and 4 townhouses right on a small cliff overlooking the beach.  My partner and I used to own a condo there.  It was 3 bedroom/3 bath with its own outside entrance like a house.  It felt like we were living in a bungalow at the beach.  Something like that might possibly work and you could buy in foreign quota.  

[bbabythai]

On 10/7/2021 at 6:26 PM, Cherrytreeview said:

Don't buy anything in Thailand.

You'll start losing money from the day the ink is dry on the contract.

Buy a property in your own country and use the rental income to fund a rental in Thailand.

At the moment, you will be able to negotiate a fantastic rental deal.

Rents are on the floor.

Bar stool talk at its best. No doubt you have bought in a gated community and lost a ton of money. 

 

I know plenty of guys who have made money here including myself. 

[bbabythai]

3 hours ago, murraynz said:

Reasonable advise.. But I'm still very happy with my condo, after 5 yrs.. It has prime view etc. 

Will hold it's value... 

It's still only a fraction of what I would pay for a house in NZ and Australia.. 

I still have property in both those countries... Use them for cap gains. 

but if you are a permanent expat over here now and then sell your house in oz then you pay CGT from the date of purchase. They changed the law a few yrs ago

[ExpatOilWorker]

Maybe look beyond Pattaya...

[sungod]

On 10/7/2021 at 6:56 PM, Kinnock said:

Ah yes, the don't buy a house in Thailand or the sky will fall in brigade are out again.

 

Or commonly known as 'haven't got a pot to p*ss in brigade'

[Cherrytreeview]

40 minutes ago, bbabythai said:

Bar stool talk at its best. No doubt you have bought in a gated community and lost a ton of money. 

 

I know plenty of guys who have made money here including myself. 

We are talking about condos.

If you mean knowing expats, business owners and people with 30 plus years experience of Thailand then guilty as charged.

Give us some examples of currently increasing prices in property in Pattaya.

More importantly, what percentage of the total market do these gems represent.

 

[WhiteBuffaloATM]

Buying a property is not all about “dead capital” and financial return on investment.

All these old guys with foreign property & renting here from foreign rents. thinking they are Smart.

Much more to life than accumulating  money, especially if Retired. SELL IT ALL & LIVE your best Life.

Otherwise you are likely to die leaving it all to the expectant and ungrateful relatives.

That is not going to be the end purpose of my life.

Had family here for last seven years. Would have lost around 3 million baht by now if Renting.

 

I have never rented here. I want to have my own place here as Settled Personal & Family Home, to renovate improve furnish decorate garden as I please. I have earned that privilege.Money in the bank is important but would not compensate that situation & great feeling. I won’t need to deal with quirky cheating landlords on annual leases.moving upheaval every year, potentially.

 

I initially had a small house which sold for a good profit. I then bought “off plan” a pool villa with separate apartment. Lived in the family apt. & rented the upstairs house for intl vacation short stay. Over 12 years pre- covid I recovered around half my capital cost in rents. Covid has killed that business.But banked around 6 million baht NETT Profit. Plus living there in Apt. Plus Saved Rent.

So around now it owes me NOTHING ( still worth the invested 12 million). It has not increased in value.

But should have using 2006 projections when bought. I doubt if that Accomodation Model has ever even occurred to anyone here. 

 

When Im gone my lady and son inherit. Trying to Sell now to fund our Dream Self Build Project.

[bbabythai]

1 hour ago, Cherrytreeview said:

We are talking about condos.

If you mean knowing expats, business owners and people with 30 plus years experience of Thailand then guilty as charged.

Give us some examples of currently increasing prices in property in Pattaya.

More importantly, what percentage of the total market do these gems represent.

 

Im not talking about Pattaya at all. Whatever gave you that idea

[The Hammer2021]

End of Pratumnak soi 4  5 6 etc..

[Cherrytreeview]

7 minutes ago, bbabythai said:

Im not talking about Pattaya at all. Whatever gave you that idea

 

Is the location a secret?

All these posters who invested in Thailand and big it up but no one is brave enough to tell us where they are.

Don't be shy.

 

 

[The Hammer2021]

1 hour ago, WhiteBuffaloATM said:

Buying a property is not all about “dead capital” and financial return on investment.

All these old guys with foreign property & renting here from foreign rents. thinking they are Smart.

Much more to life than accumulating  money, especially if Retired. SELL IT ALL & LIVE your best Life.

Otherwise you are likely to die leaving it all to the expectant and ungrateful relatives.

That is not going to be the end purpose of my life.

Had family here for last seven years. Would have lost around 3 million baht by now if Renting.

 

I have never rented here. I want to have my own place here as Settled Personal & Family Home, to renovate improve furnish decorate garden as I please. I have earned that privilege.Money in the bank is important but would not compensate that situation & great feeling. I won’t need to deal with quirky cheating landlords on annual leases.moving upheaval every year, potentially.

 

I initially had a small house which sold for a good profit. I then bought “off plan” a pool villa with separate apartment. Lived in the family apt. & rented the upstairs house for intl vacation short stay. Over 12 years pre- covid I recovered around half my capital cost in rents. Covid has killed that business.But banked around 6 million baht NETT Profit. Plus living there in Apt. Plus Saved Rent.

So around now it owes me NOTHING ( still worth the invested 12 million). It has not increased in value.

But should have using 2006 projections when bought. I doubt if that Accomodation Model has ever even occurred to anyone here. 

 

When Im gone my lady and son inherit. Trying to Sell now to fund our Dream Self Build Project.

Dream on!