Any recommendations for stem cell therapy clinic in Bangkok?

[Tayaout]

Looking for reccomendation about stem cell therapy for lower back injury. I contacted The Regeneration Center in Bangkok but I'm curious to know if anyone has experience with this kind of treatment and where they went.

 

I went to Bangkok Hospital in Samui seeking conventional treatment but the doctor said I waited too long and they can't help until I injure myself again. I still experience pain daily and heard stem cell therapy could help.

Edited October 25, 2021 by Tayaout

[Sheryl]

Stem cell treatment for back problems  is still in  early experimental stages and not approved as a treatment in Thailand nor in most other countries.

 

The Thai Food and Drug Administration has regulated the use of stem cells since 2009 after there were some horrific deaths as a result of their use. Stem cells are permitted for use in conditions were the benefit has been proven, such as leukemia and other blood diseases. Other than that, only in approved clinical research which has been approved by national regulatory committees.

 

Any clinic offering it otherwise is operating against medical council regulations. A fact which should give considerable pause.  See https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/certain-clinics-in-thailand-offering-fraudulent-stem-cell-treatments

 

You should  be careful not to fall victim to quack or fake treatments.    If you really want to try this, best to do it either in a country where it is an approved therapy or in the context of an approved clinical trial. (These have their dangers too, and may not work, but at least the risks will be fully explained. In addition treatment is usually free. Also, the treatment given will be as described which is often not the case in unregulated stem cell clinics in Thailand).

 

Bangkok Samui (or for that matter, anywhere else in Samui) is not where to go for a chronic back problem and what you quoted them as having said makes no sense to me.

 

There are some excellent Western trained spinal specialists in Bangkok. I suggest you see one of these:

 

https://www.bnhhospital.com/search-doctor/entry/4093/

 

https://www.bangkokhospital.com/en/doctor/dr-tayard-buranakarl

 

 

 

 

[internationalism]

the world leader is chinese beike, with the majority of market, they have hospital on sukhumwit.

Treatment cost in tens of $k.

Insurance doesn't cover it.

I would definitely go for physiotherapy.

For that $20-40k you can have several hundreds physio treatments, even every single day. 

Good insurance will cover some costs.

And chances of real improvement are high.

Start off at the nearest government hospital, would be half price of private

Edited October 25, 2021 by internationalism

[Tayaout]

3 hours ago, Sheryl said:

Stem cell treatment for back problems  is still in  early experimental stages and not approved as a treatment in Thailand nor in most other countries.

 

The Thai Food and Drug Administration has regulated the use of stem cells since 2009 after there were some horrific deaths as a result of their use. Stem cells are permitted for use in conditions were the benefit has been proven, such as leukemia and other blood diseases. Other than that, only in approved clinical research which has been approved by national regulatory committees.

 

Any clinic offering it otherwise is operating against medical council regulations. A fact which should give considerable pause.  See https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/certain-clinics-in-thailand-offering-fraudulent-stem-cell-treatments

 

You should  be careful not to fall victim to quack or fake treatments.    If you really want to try this, best to do it either in a country where it is an approved therapy or in the context of an approved clinical trial. (These have their dangers too, and may not work, but at least the risks will be fully explained. In addition treatment is usually free. Also, the treatment given will be as described which is often not the case in unregulated stem cell clinics in Thailand).

 

Bangkok Samui (or for that matter, anywhere else in Samui) is not where to go for a chronic back problem and what you quoted them as having said makes no sense to me.

 

There are some excellent Western trained spinal specialists in Bangkok. I suggest you see one of these:

 

https://www.bnhhospital.com/search-doctor/entry/4093/

 

https://www.bangkokhospital.com/en/doctor/dr-tayard-buranakarl

 

 

 

 

Thanks, I know there is approved clinic in Panama run by American. After your post I don't think I will do it in Thailand.

 

Edit: here is the link to the clinic in Panama: https://www.neilriordan.com/medistem-panama/

Edited October 25, 2021 by Tayaout

[Tayaout]

2 hours ago, internationalism said:

the world leader is chinese beike, with the majority of market, they have hospital on sukhumwit.

Treatment cost in tens of $k.

Insurance doesn't cover it.

I would definitely go for physiotherapy.

For that $20-40k you can have several hundreds physio treatments, even every single day. 

Good insurance will cover some costs.

And chances of real improvement are high.

Start off at the nearest government hospital, would be half price of private

I already did physio and didn't notice much improvement. I train and stretch almost daily but from what the doctor told me some of my disc are completely dry. Money or insurance is not an issue. I'm looking for the best available treatment and I'm willing to pay. The pain is getting better over time but I can't train as hard as I would like to. Maybe I'm just getting older!

Edited October 25, 2021 by Tayaout

[internationalism]

the bangkok clinic for baike is

https://www.bbhhospital.com

 

Otherwise you can go directly to china, when they open. 

But if you are based in thailand, it doesn't make much sense to go abroad, because of travel costs.

 

I would think panama clinic is just scam.

Certainly not scam are hospitals associated with beike. I know several blind people with good results for their sight. 

Beike also use to have hospital in new delhi.

 

I would not trust thailandmedical.news , it's not reliable source

[Sheryl]

Again, I cannot stress enough that there is no approved, tested stem cell treatment for back problems at this time. You will at best receive unproven experimental treatments (with significant risks)  if not quack ones and at great expense.

 

Before even thinking in this direction you should gave a consultation with a good, Westetlrn trained  spinal specialist of which there are sevetal in Thailand.

 

Yoy have not indicated the nature of the problem , but there have been a lot of advances in minimally invasive surgical techniques to relief spinal nerve compression.

[ElenaK]

Hello! Did you manage to get the stem cells treatment anywhere and could you please share the experience and if it helped? Looking for the same now in Bangkok… Thanks

[PPMMUU]

If you are receiving 'stem cell treatment' for a back problem, and they didn't explicitly say that it's an experiment, then it is very likely that you are a victim of a scam.

[Sheryl]

11 hours ago, PPMMUU said:

If you are receiving 'stem cell treatment' for a back problem, and they didn't explicitly say that it's an experiment, then it is very likely that you are a victim of a scam.

As above.