Is Elon Musk African American???

[EVENKEEL]

Myself I don't know much about him except he's rich, apparently he's not only the richest man in the world, but born in South Africa and a US Citizen he's African American. Many will disagree on that. 

 

A white co-worker of mine had his child's birth certificate show baby is African American because the white mother was born in Africa. He told the story of the resistance of personnel to do so. He did it so when baby applied for college someday she could get the preference for being African American. 

 

 

[KhunLA]

He's African or American.  Depending which passport he's showing.

 

There's no such thing as African American.  Same as Australian American, S. American American, Euro American, Russian American, Antarctic American or Asian American.

[Gsxrnz]

His Mother was Canadian and his Father was South African. He's therefore a Canfrican or maybe a Canuckfrican.

 

Not that it matters anyway.  What does matter is that he's about the only billionaire who's sticking one up the socialists' backside.

[mtls2005]

He's rich enough to be whatever he wants to be.

 

His Wiki says:

 

Citizenship    
South Africa (1971–present)
Canada (1971–present)
United States (2002–present)

 

 

Mars (2037)

 

 

[EVENKEEL]

8 hours ago, KhunLA said:

He's African or American.  Depending which passport he's showing.

 

There's no such thing as African American.  Same as Australian American, S. American American, Euro American, Russian American, Antarctic American or Asian American.

If only that were true.

[EVENKEEL]

8 hours ago, Gsxrnz said:

His Mother was Canadian and his Father was South African. He's therefore a Canfrican or maybe a Canuckfrican.

 

Not that it matters anyway.  What does matter is that he's about the only billionaire who's sticking one up the socialists' backside.

In the US blacks like the term African American, I've never heard the term African Canadian. huh, never thought of it.

[zzaa09]

9 hours ago, KhunLA said:

He's African or American.  Depending which passport he's showing.

 

There's no such thing as African American.  Same as Australian American, S. American American, Euro American, Russian American, Antarctic American or Asian American.

Yet, all belonging to the warm and fuzzy woke fashion. 

[seedy]

18 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

Citizenship    
South Africa (1971–present)
Canada (1971–present)
United States (2002–present)

Mars (2037)

He has 3 passports ? Never heard of that

[Chomper Higgot]

wrt to the question the OP asks, the answer may be found here:

 

https://www.census.gov/topics/population/race/about.html

 

But of course the OP didn’t simply ask a question for which the answer is easily found, he also added the following claim:

 

“A white co-worker of mine had his child's birth certificate show baby is African American because the white mother was born in Africa. He told the story of the resistance of personnel to do so. He did it so when baby applied for college someday she could get the preference for being African American. “

 

Members reading that claim have two options, one of which is to believe it to be true.

 

Anyone struggling to decide whether or not to believe the OP’s claim can review the US Standard Certificate of Live Birth to determine if it provides any means by which a parent can request to select what ethnicity is recorded for their child (Clue - it does not).

 

The ethnicity of a child is determined during the process of issuing the birth certificate and only on the basis of the answers to parent ethnicity in the Live Birth Registration Form.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/birth11-03final-acc.pdf

 

The nonsense claims made by the OP are blatantly transparent.

[bbko]

Boers-American?

Afrikaner-American?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afrikaners#:~:text=Afrikaners (Afrikaans%3A [afriˈkɑːnərs],agricultural sector prior to 1994.

[EVENKEEL]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

wrt to the question the OP asks, the answer may be found here:

 

https://www.census.gov/topics/population/race/about.html

 

But of course the OP didn’t simply ask a question for which the answer is easily found, he also added the following claim:

 

 

“A white co-worker of mine had his child's birth certificate show baby is African American because the white mother was born in Africa. He told the story of the resistance of personnel to do so. He did it so when baby applied for college someday she could get the preference for being African American. “

 

Members reading that claim have two options, one of which is to believe it to be true.

 

Anyone struggling to decide whether or not to believe the OP’s claim can review the US Standard Certificate of Live Birth to determine if it provides any means by which a parent can request to select what ethnicity is recorded for their child (Clue - it does not).

 

The ethnicity of a child is determined during the process of issuing the birth certificate and only on the basis of the answers to parent ethnicity in the Live Birth Registration Form.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/birth11-03final-acc.pdf

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The nonsense claims made by the OP are blatantly transparent.

My co-worker did as I stated at the hospital at time of birth about 13 yrs ago. Are you saying his child was not listed as African American? Are you saying Elon Musk isn't African American?

[Chomper Higgot]

47 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

My co-worker did as I stated at the hospital at time of birth about 13 yrs ago. Are you saying his child was not listed as African American? Are you saying Elon Musk isn't African American?

I’ve posted the evidence that exposes both these claims for what they are.

[2009]

16 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

In the US blacks like the term African American, I've never heard the term African Canadian. huh, never thought of it.

They label themselves and then talk about racism. Hmm.

[VocalNeal]

3 hours ago, seedy said:

He has 3 passports ? Never heard of that

You can have two from the same country also. Sometimes one has to travel while one's passport is at an embassy waiting for a visa.

 

[EVENKEEL]

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’ve posted the evidence that exposes both these claims for what they are.

You posted zero evidence, 

 

So, your claim is a white person can not be African American? Is that your stance? It's a simple yes or no question.

[EVENKEEL]

2 hours ago, 2009 said:

They label themselves and then talk about racism. Hmm.

I worked with Blacks constantly for years, we didn't use the term African American, we said the black guy, the white guy, the Filipino. But in the woke community it's African American

[Chomper Higgot]

10 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

So, your claim is a white person can not be African American? Is that your stance?

I made no such claim.

 

I provided the US Census definition of African American, which is the exact same definition applied in the allocation of ethnicity during the issuance of US birth certificates.

 

If you are making claims or assertions that run contrary to those definitions it’s for you to justify those, not me.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

8 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

I worked with Blacks constantly for years, we didn't use the term African American, we said the black guy, the white guy, the Filipino. But in the woke community it's African American

The term ‘African American’ is defined within the ethnic classifications applied by the US Census, refer link I provided above, it’s got nothing at all to do with ‘woke’.

 

 

[2009]

On 12/23/2021 at 8:22 AM, EVENKEEL said:

Myself I don't know much about him except

He is doing some really cool things that will go down in history if he pulls it off

[EVENKEEL]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I made no such claim.

 

I provided the US Census definition of African American, which is the exact same definition applied in the allocation of ethnicity during the issuance of US birth certificates.

 

If you are making claims or assertions that run contrary to those definitions it’s for you to justify those, not me.

 

 

I asked a simple yes or no question, go troll elsewhere. Your infatuation with me is charming.  

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

I asked a simple yes or no question, go troll elsewhere. Your infatuation with me is charming.  

Your attempt to make this personal is noted but let’s stick with examining your claims against the available knowable facts regarding the definition of ‘African American’ and the process by which ‘ethnicity’ is assigned on US Birth Certificates.

 

Perhaps your coworker wasn’t being entirely truthful with his yarn.

[KhunLA]

AFAIK, race / authenticity is not collected or noted on US birth certificates.

 

In the new woke world, you can identify with what ever you want, but it won't be on your legal birth certificate, except M/F, and there is an attempt to change that.

[seedy]

Typical American Bull Sheets

 

White – A person having origins in any of the original peoples of Europe, the Middle East, or North Africa.

https://www.census.gov/topics/population/race/about.html

 

By that criteria, if you are white, and from AFRICA - which is a continent - you must be from the North to be classified as white.

Forget South Africans, who have lived there for generations.

If you - and you family - were born in Jo'Burg, are you not an African ?

[Chomper Higgot]

14 minutes ago, seedy said:

Typical American Bull Sheets

 

White – A person having origins in any of the original peoples of Europe, the Middle East, or North Africa.

https://www.census.gov/topics/population/race/about.html

 

By that criteria, if you are white, and from AFRICA - which is a continent - you must be from the North to be classified as white.

Forget South Africans, who have lived there for generations.

If you - and you family - were born in Jo'Burg, are you not an African ?

Answering the question ‘where did the white people on South Africa originate?’ will relieve you of your confusion.

 

Nationality and Ethnicity are not the same thing.

[seedy]

6 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Answering the question ‘where did the white people on South Africa originate?’ will relieve you of your confusion.

 

Nationality and Ethnicity are not the same thing.

More BS

According to DNA tests, we ALL came from Africa

That is why it is called the cradle of civilization means

 

So ... Black people from Cuba are Latinos ? 555

And black people from Brazil ?

[seedy]

The Concept of “Race” Is a Lie

Even the Ancient Greeks knew it

“The science of genetics demonstrates that humans cannot be divided into biologically distinct subcategories”; and it “challenges the traditional concept of different races of humans as biologically separate and distinct. This is validated by many decades of research.” In other words, “race itself is a social construct,” with no biological basis.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/the-concept-of-race-is-a-lie/

[bendejo]

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Larry points out a cow calf at a farm.  Someone tells him it is obviously a male (and it is).  Larry explains that the baby bull identifies as a cow.

 

A few years ago the wife of a US presidential candidate, a rich white lady who was born in Kenya, quipped that she was technically African-American.  The US people who call themselves such did not appreciate it.

 

Tesla Model S explosion

 

 

[SunnyinBangrak]

Race, I learn, like gender, is a social construct and is fluid. If Elizabeth Warren is the richest and most famous Native American Indian, and Hilaria Baldwin is the most famous Spanish mother, then surely Musk's ethnicity is known only to him. Confusing right!