Grim worst case for Thailand next year if people lower their guard against COVID-19

[jvs]

1 hour ago, Capella said:

Thailand will have to do what Australia and other countries are now doing - it will have to realise that only hospitalisations matter, infections don't. Omicron, in particular, is extremely contagious (lots of infections) but leads to far fewer hospitalisations than previous strains, as studies in African countries (where it originated) have shown. 

 

Whilst there is a rump of vested interests who hate to see the back of covid, or any other upheaval for that matter, common sense is starting to prevail. 

I was talking to a friend from south Africa last evening,he was saying the same thing.

A lot of new infections but very few people needing medical support.

Of course the population is not the same as Thailand but i am hoping it will turn out the same here.

I have been saying this whenever the pandemic started,"Sooner or later we will all get infected"

Vaccinations will have to protect us from severe illness and to the anti vaxers i can only say one thing,the numbers are not lying.Most severe cases and most deaths are now with those who are not vaccinated.

[mommysboy]

15 hours ago, koratkarlos said:

From my reading today it appears that 1) Sinovac offers no protection from Omicron (a limited sample study out of Hong Kong) and 2) the hospitalization rates for unvaccinated people are 11% lower for Omicron compared to Delta (data from England).  If these observations are true cases and hospitalizations should reach prior peak levels.  My guess is by late February.  But will they report it.  And will the country lock down again.  Uncertain times ahead for sure.

Wrong.

[candide]

14 hours ago, ukrules said:

Why do they not think they will get 50,000 to 100,000 cases per day like everywhere else?

 

I see no reason why this level can't happen by mid January but I see plenty of reasons why this level will never be detected.

I also don't understand why they think the Omicron wave will wait until March to strike, taking into account that they already found 200 cases in Kalasin.

[Howiehotspur]

Wow 30,000 catching a cold 

[portlandtree]

Those 500 cases from where ? Can’t be from the air travelers as they are tested so it most likely is the border crosses as last time. Put the police and military on borders instead of sitting at the base

[Boedog]

Natural immunity just let it happen big pharma and Governments are the virus enough of this madness, the science is the size of covid particles and the size of the holes in a mask are big enough to drive a truck through, 2 years this has been going on, lockdowns, mandates, forced vaccination, travel bans etc have done nothing, business closures, bankruptcy, suicide, depression not seen family friends loved ones for 2 years, the constant lies and back tracking get 2 shots they said get your freedom they said now get your booster shot, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH 

[Omicron]

30,000 a day who are they kidding? What makes Thailand so different from the rest of the world? Omicron is rife in Europe, USA, China etc etc with thousands of flights cancelled. 

Oh yes I just realised what makes thailand different DONT TEST = NO COVID

[ThailandRyan]

6 minutes ago, candide said:

I also don't understand why they think the Omicron wave will wait until March to strike, taking into account that they already found 200 cases in Kalasin.

By February it should be on the downside if it gets a foothold here soon

[IAMHERE]

6 hours ago, ourmanflint said:

The only reason it will get this bad is if there are large sections of the public that remain unvaccinated. Vaccines are the answer, no matter what all the loonies keep telling you

 

?  Vaccines don't prevent Covid, that is all over the news and internet. They, all them loonies? It appears as if you are saying vacination prevents Covid; it does not prevent Covid.

[Mr Dome]

I still predict we won't reach the endemic post-Covid-19 phase globally until 2024.

 

Keep practicing risk mitigation, if not for yourself than for those you come into contact with.

[Lemonltr]

7 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Heavens, all this doom and gloom mongering. It's deaths and hospitalisations that matter. UK is currently about 80% less full in the hospitals, death are fallings. Time to get on with life now. It will not get much better for years if you do not start living with it and keep shutting down the planet 

You are spreading fake news and some believe you. Public health england covid publishes daily charts. 

[Lemonltr]

7 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Heavens, all this doom and gloom mongering. It's deaths and hospitalisations that matter. UK is currently about 80% less full in the hospitals, death are fallings. Time to get on with life now. It will not get much better for years if you do not start living with it and keep shutting down the planet 

You are spreading fake news and some believe you. Public health england covid publishes daily charts. 

[Benmart]

The next variant will get similar alarm bells and hysteria. I have yet to see the dead lining the streets. Yes, deaths have occured, but did these people die "from" or "with" Covid? If you belief every statistic or announcement from government or self-appointed experts, I suggest doing some critical investigation. 

[WingFat]

Chinese Omicron Exported Variant could reach 30K a day...mild symptoms...OK, so let's also employ strict measures for motorbike accidents, the flu, etc...This is an effort to restrict worldwide society to the whims of an authoritarian and total control of us peons by the elite globalists.

[SymS]

I just went to a new year party organized by the local government. Indoor event with over 50 people, alcohol served, people dancing.... I think people I've had enough with restrictions.

[nickmondo]

They are clueless as usual

It will be 100,000 minimum a day, if not already

dont worry about it

have your vaccines and symptoms are same as common cold

[fredscats]

South asians react differently to many in the west,far more suseptable to lung infection,pneumonia for one," grim worst case"  will get grimmer

[DjSilver]

It's okay, better to let the people be free than to have restrictions. Start first with removing the ridiculous mandatory face mask.

[RichardColeman]

On 12/28/2021 at 10:24 AM, Lemonltr said:

You are spreading fake news and some believe you. Public health england covid publishes daily charts. 

_{^{Pretty sure I am right and not spreading fake news, data from NHS - check for yourself. Infections high, yes, BUT Peak hospital beds being used 38,000 , current 8400, admission 1000 a day now, previous peak 3500 a day, and death pretty much  in decline since November. Feel free to to look at the data and not keep scare mongering}}

 

https://ourworldindata.org/local-covid-uk

 

[WingFat]

The totalitarian socialists just love to try and clamp their fists upon us peons...a weak Chinese virus variant of a Chinese-created virus...????????????

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

16 minutes ago, Lemonltr said:

You are spreading fake news and some believe you. Public health england covid publishes daily charts. 

I don't think he's wrong, the hospitalization in the UK for Omicron are very low, only 407, published daily by UK Health Security Agency.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-omicron-daily-overview

[Bkk Brian]

32 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

By February it should be on the downside if it gets a foothold here soon

Hope you're right, I think so too if it goes as it did in South Africa. If they try to hold it back by strict restrictions it will take longer though

[MadMac]

Someone needs to stop these morans from spreading false news.

[nausea]

Time will tell. I've already had a sore throat, so I reckon it's ubiquitous here.

[Phil1975]

The Data suggests up to 70% less people needing hospital treatment for Omicron. We should be celebrating that the virus has mutated into something far less deadly, not panicking. The MSM has a lot to answer for this uneducated fear mongering BS.   

 

COVID is here forever, just like the Spanish Flu is still around from 1918 and still kills immune suppressed people, COVID will still be killing people in a hundred years time. Get over it already and open everything up.

 

Only immune compromised people need worry and take the appropriate measures.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/23/hospital-admission-risk-up-to-70-less-with-omicron-than-delta-ukhsa-finds

 

 

[WingFat]

The Chinese communists are laughing at the western countries...and those in the western countries who's "leaders" have sold out to the Chinese communist virus creators and exporters, one big sell-out to freedom.

 

 

[WingFat]

OK, I had a mild case of the Chinese virus and quickly recovered, then I tested positive to having the anti-bodies then I had the two-jab Moderna vaccine, then I had the Moderna "booster"...then, then, then...the a**hole totalitarians and their media lap-dogs say I'm still not "safe"...???????????? them and anyone else who believes them. Grow some balls, people.

[khunpa]

Official numbers will be max 30k and real numbers will be much higher. We will all get infected. Many of us properly already have been infected with other variants.

 

Let’s face it. Thailand is not really in front when it comes to testing. Good thing about low test-rates is that you get few cases compared to other countries and can claim to be handling the situation well.

 

 

[mommysboy]

Omicron requires a change of perspective where the focus changes from number of cases per day to the number of hospitalizations.  Vaccination still appears to be the answer, as it protects against severe illness, which is less likely with this variant.

 

The biggest problems are speed and rate of transmission.  I suppose this can be mitigated by social distancing to some extent, but the effect will be minimal imo, unless Thailand opts for a Chinese style lockdown, which is arguably absurd because omicron is less dangerous, and may actually offer the opportunity to gain natural population immunity.

 

Beyond what is already being done, I don't think mitigation of spread is possible without severe effects on the economy again.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[mommysboy]

24 minutes ago, Phil1975 said:

The Data suggests up to 70% less people needing hospital treatment for Omicron. We should be celebrating that the virus has mutated into something far less deadly, not panicking. The MSM has a lot to answer for this uneducated fear mongering BS.   

 

COVID is here forever, just like the Spanish Flu is still around from 1918 and still kills immune suppressed people, COVID will still be killing people in a hundred years time. Get over it already and open everything up.

 

Only immune compromised people need worry and take the appropriate measures.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/23/hospital-admission-risk-up-to-70-less-with-omicron-than-delta-ukhsa-finds

 

 

Speed and rate of transmission is a worry, and what makes it different from flu though. So, hospitals can become overwhelmed very quickly with people suffering moderate illness, but still needing treatment. Near blanket vaccination of over 50's is probably a good solution.  The bug bear is people who don't get vaccinated.