Experts Advise Against Contracting Omicron Instead of Getting Vaccinated

[KhunLA]

21 minutes ago, TropicalGuy said:

Facts not Opinions. Uncomfortable in your chosen higher risk positions  no doubt ( as with my lady) but there we are. 

Not uncomfortable at all, more than happy with my choices in life.  They've served me well.

 

I'd debate it with you, but prefer not to get put on restricted posting.

Have a nice day

[TropicalGuy]

1 hour ago, ozimoron said:

A friend of a friend is reportedly getting regular, severe night fevers months after a covid infection.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-60468900.amp
 

very rare to get any side effects after four weeks from ANY vaccination in history.

 

” Night fevers” could easily be malaria or dengue ; unconnected with vax .

[ozimoron]

Just now, TropicalGuy said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-60468900.amp
 

very rare to get any side effects after four weeks from ANY vaccination in history.

 

” Night fevers” could easily be malaria or dengue ; unconnected with vax .

Not from the vaccine, from an infection.

[TropicalGuy]

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

Not uncomfortable at all, more than happy with my choices in life.  They've served me well.

 

I'd debate it with you, but prefer not to get put on restricted posting.

Have a nice day

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-60468900.amp

[Harveyg]

3 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Not uncomfortable at all, more than happy with my choices in life.  They've served me well.

 

I'd debate it with you, but prefer not to get put on restricted posting.

Have a nice day

My sentiments exactly. 

Edited April 19, 2022 by Harveyg

[TropicalGuy]

6 hours ago, Harveyg said:

My sentiments exactly. 

Facts uninterested in emotional decisions ensuring higher risk of death. Why on earth risk it ? quite irrational especially with family.

 

personally made a maximum effort over last 24 months here to minimize ALL health risks at age 65.

Diet /Exercise /Triple Vax / Water/ Sleep/ Relax/ Defensive Driving / No Extreme Activity / Calmness/ No Irrational Decisions/ Medical Insurances.

System to Stay Well with Best Odds.

(Apologies for Off Topic but Linked)

 

[hughrection]

10 hours ago, TropicalGuy said:

It’s Entertainment not Science though.  

He reads from peer reviewed articles and sources from the BMJ and the office for national statistics, so no, it is science as the majority interpret it to be.

Nothing is made up, it's why they haven't taken his site down. All information is already in the public domain. He just brings it to peoples attention. ????

 

[TropicalGuy]

1 minute ago, hughrection said:

He reads from peer reviewed articles and sources from the BMJ and the office for national statistics, so no, it is science as the majority interpret it to be.

Nothing is made up, it's why they haven't taken his site down. All information is already in the public domain. He just brings it to peoples attention. ????

 

He is proven to misinterpret & misrepresent data. Then when called out by report sources  doesn’t respond. Refer Bkk Brian post here.  
 

He’s an unqualified unreliable middle man. I don’t take my motorbike to a cycle shop for repair.

 

There is No Science or Rational to listen to these people. Go Direct to Quality Source. Institutes/

Professors/  ONS. 

[hughrection]

23 hours ago, TropicalGuy said:

Christ…. the abundant hypocrisy.

YOU are clearly part of that “ ivermectin etc.” clown show by promoting Nurse Campbell

What part of 'he does not present any opinions on anything' do you not understand. All information he talks about is available in the public domain. Sources such as the CDC are used and is the BMJ and various peer reviewed studies accepted by academics world wide.

 

Look at it just once & you will see all that he does is break down science and health jargon into easily understood language for the masses. That's it, nothing more!

 

Take the time to watch just one post or remain sounding foolish on here. 

[TropicalGuy]

4 minutes ago, hughrection said:

What part of 'he does not present any opinions on anything' do you not understand. All information he talks about is available in the public domain. Sources such as the CDC are used and is the BMJ and various peer reviewed studies accepted by academics world wide.

 

Look at it just once & you will see all that he does is break down science and health jargon into easily understood language for the masses. That's it, nothing more!

 

Take the time to watch just one post or remain sounding foolish on here. 

He’s NOT QUALIFIED to summarize other’s expert data. He makes serious errors in doing that. He was a NURSE only. It is your type of gullible irrationally that’s “foolish”. 

[MrJ2U]

On 4/18/2022 at 6:44 AM, jacko45k said:

Hmm... despite my lack of training and knowledge in this subject, I was leaning towards a preference of getting infected (by omicron)  rather than the 3rd jab of MRNA... everything I was hearing ... made me feel it was unlikely to produce symptoms any worse than a cold, and ultimately give better immunity results. 

In the end, got the 3rd jab...... 

Do both.

 

Eventually you'll get it.

 

No reason not to keep getting boosters to lesson the chance for a costly stay at a hospital.

 

Our entire family just recovered from COVID-19 after getting somewhere in Hua Hin despite taking care and staying at a 5 star hotel.

 

 

Very mild and happy to boost our immune system along with the vaccines.

 

Biggest worry was our toddler.

Fever for 3 days.  Fine on fully recovered by the 6th day.

 

Yai, 60's, diabetic still has a persistent cough.

 

The rest of us, 4 people, quick recoveries.

 

I'm glad we weren't sick from the beginning.  Might have been forced to stay in an expensive "hospitel".

 

I guess the Delta was mich worse to get.

  Get vaccinated, the next variant may not be so mild.

 

 

[MrJ2U]

9 hours ago, TropicalGuy said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-60468900.amp
 

very rare to get any side effects after four weeks from ANY vaccination in history.

 

” Night fevers” could easily be malaria or dengue ; unconnected with vax .

......Or just fat, high blood pressure, or to cheap to use the air-conditioning.

[hughrection]

13 minutes ago, TropicalGuy said:

Not at all . He’s a Politician in my view and not a specialist Professor.

Doesn't meet my “ gold standard” .

Just curious ...... would this person meet your 'gold standard' ?  ????

 

If a scientist received his BSc in biochemistry from the University of California, Davis,, MSc in biology from the University of California, San Diego, and MD from Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine.  Attended Harvard Medical School for a year-long postdoctoral studies program and in the decade after earning his MD, taught pathology at the University of California, Davis and at the University of Maryland.

[hughrection]

5 minutes ago, MrJ2U said:

staying at a 5 star hotel.

Wow! and you still caught Omicron. How dare it!!!

[MrJ2U]

9 hours ago, TropicalGuy said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-60468900.amp
 

very rare to get any side effects after four weeks from ANY vaccination in history.

 

” Night fevers” could easily be malaria or dengue ; unconnected with vax .

I believe he's talking about "long COVID" and not the actual vaccines.

[TropicalGuy]

17 minutes ago, hughrection said:

Just curious ...... would this person meet your 'gold standard' ?  ????

 

If a scientist received his BSc in biochemistry from the University of California, Davis,, MSc in biology from the University of California, San Diego, and MD from Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine.  Attended Harvard Medical School for a year-long postdoctoral studies program and in the decade after earning his MD, taught pathology at the University of California, Davis and at the University of Maryland.

No unless Professor and not holding political post. 

[TropicalGuy]

17 minutes ago, MrJ2U said:

I believe he's talking about "long COVID" and not the actual vaccines.

Possibly. I already acknowledged to Ozimoron my responding post error in wrongly reading “ vaccination” instead of actual “infection”???????? 

[Photoguy21]

Of course they recommend vaccination, just look at the money that is involved for them.

[TropicalGuy]

24 minutes ago, MrJ2U said:

......Or just fat, high blood pressure, or to cheap to use the air-conditioning.

Well possibly ???? my point I guess was that it could be ( as you mischievously “ suggest”) unrelated or brought on by non- Covid causes taking advantage of Covid- weakened immune system or of course it might well be a direct “ long Covid” symptom and might be followed by others like brain shrinkage & cognitive disorders ….. lord,  quite deep this stuff.
 

Better to maintain maximum health ( including Triple Western Vax) to cut the odds of this bad stuff.????????????

[TropicalGuy]

42 minutes ago, MrJ2U said:

Do both.

 

Eventually you'll get it.

 

No reason not to keep getting boosters to lesson the chance for a costly stay at a hospital.

 

Our entire family just recovered from COVID-19 after getting somewhere in Hua Hin despite taking care and staying at a 5 star hotel.

 

 

Very mild and happy to boost our immune system along with the vaccines.

 

Biggest worry was our toddler.

Fever for 3 days.  Fine on fully recovered by the 6th day.

 

Yai, 60's, diabetic still has a persistent cough.

 

The rest of us, 4 people, quick recoveries.

 

I'm glad we weren't sick from the beginning.  Might have been forced to stay in an expensive "hospitel".

 

I guess the Delta was mich worse to get.

  Get vaccinated, the next variant may not be so mild.

 

 

Omicron Everywhere. Highly Contagious. All Hotels Rife with it. Unvaxxed Thai Cleaners with poor hygiene could easily leave it on room or other surfaces where it’s alive for 2-3 days away from direct sunlight. That would explain whole family in confined space coming down with it. 
 

triple western vaxxed with no conditions are catching it non- seriously, getting very sick for 3-7 days, like my western ex- nurse pal.

 

Personally, I seem never to have caught it, at least never had symptoms, despite moving through multiple intl. airports / flights in March 2020 in contact with hundreds of Chinese let loose for Chinese New Year then. 

 

My super fit Thai lady aged 40 & son 8 (both no conditions) remain unvaxxed and have had it several times with headaches & feeling rough for 2-3 days. 

[MrJ2U]

1 hour ago, hughrection said:

Wow! and you still caught Omicron. How dare it!!!

Yes, you'd think HiSo's like myself would be immune as a birthrite!

[MrJ2U]

1 hour ago, TropicalGuy said:

Possibly. I already acknowledged to Ozimoron my responding post error in wrongly reading “ vaccination” instead of actual “infection”???????? 

Sorry.

 

 

[Mavideol]

On 4/18/2022 at 8:30 AM, davemos said:

So natural immunity does not work ? 

it appears it will... but this being the land of contradictions ???   555

 

Despite some concern regarding the Covid-19 situation after the Songkran holiday, the Public Health Ministry’s plan to declare Covid-19 endemic by July still persists.

 

[MrJ2U]

52 minutes ago, TropicalGuy said:

Omicron Everywhere. Highly Contagious. All Hotels Rife with it. Unvaxxed Thai Cleaners with poor hygiene could easily leave it on room or other surfaces where it’s alive for 2-3 days away from direct sunlight. That would explain whole family in confined space coming down with it. 
 

triple western vaxxed with no conditions are catching it non- seriously, getting very sick for 3-7 days, like my western ex- nurse pal.

 

Personally, I seem never to have caught it, at least never had symptoms, despite moving through multiple intl. airports / flights in March 2020 in contact with hundreds of Chinese let loose for Chinese New Year then. 

 

My super fit Thai lady aged 40 & son 8 (both no conditions) remain unvaxxed and have had it several times with headaches & feeling rough for 2-3 days. 

Sadly I am sure someone caught it from us before the full symptoms.  It was like a dominos effect with the 6 of us.

 

Personally I wouldn't even thought I was sick unless I had taken the test.

 

 

[TropicalGuy]

3 minutes ago, MrJ2U said:

Sorry.

 

 

 No need ! I only placed a “like” to Ozi post kindly picking me up on my error so only Ozi expected to spot it????

[MrJ2U]

43 minutes ago, TropicalGuy said:

 No need ! I only placed a “like” to Ozi post kindly picking me up on my error so only Ozi expected to spot it????

Stay safe!

[Rampant Rabbit]

On 4/19/2022 at 1:43 PM, ozimoron said:

One of my friends just died of covid after having three vaccinations. It was time for his fourth which may have saved him. He was diabetic but it was well controlled and he was 78.

 

My best advice is take the lower risk road and get whatever vaccinations that medical experts suggest.

not  78  not diabetic, its  not  a lower  risk its  most  likely  useless in my situation

[ozimoron]

29 minutes ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

not  78  not diabetic, its  not  a lower  risk its  most  likely  useless in my situation

I hope you've weighed the medical evidence and read a balanced assortment of media sources to arrive at that conclusion.

[metisdead]

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