SAFETY FIRST Posted April 29, 2022 Author Share Posted April 29, 2022 3 hours ago, Kwasaki said: 3 hours ago, eisfeld said: Today I learned: One can get CTPL insurance for a unregistered and not road legal bike in Thailand ???? Been like that for over 20 years as far as I know. My CB400SF with its green book from a 100cc Wave and number plate was CTPL insured So, if I bought this electric bike without green book I could insure (CTP). If I get pulled up by the cops, my infringement/traffic fine would be for no registration, no tax disc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 (edited) 54 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said: So, if I bought this electric bike without green book I could insure (CTP). If I get pulled up by the cops, my infringement/traffic fine would be for no registration, no tax disc. I believe as do people where I live and my Thai friend also, he got CTPL because be thought that was a sensible thing to do, he didn't have to. As and when the Thai DLT makes them required to have something he will do what's required then. The police around us don't bother because there's nothing in law about them other than looking at them as a bicycle that is battery propelled. There's 4 and 3 wheel electric powered carts and many 3 wheels electric taxi carts where we live, the taxi guys supposed to have licences for being a taxi but many don't. Edited April 29, 2022 by Kwasaki 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CharlieH Posted April 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2022 1 hour ago, SAFETY FIRST said: So, if I bought this electric bike without green book I could insure (CTP). If I get pulled up by the cops, my infringement/traffic fine would be for no registration, no tax disc. As always in this green and pleasant land consistency, what happens in reality, and what the Law requires seldom meet. My advice, dont rely on hearsay , go to your specific land transport office, show them what you have in mind and get the correct legal information from the horses mouth applicable specifically to YOU in your location. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eisfeld Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 On 4/29/2022 at 11:57 AM, Kwasaki said: As and when the Thai DLT makes them required to have something he will do what's required then. The police around us don't bother because there's nothing in law about them other than looking at them as a bicycle that is battery propelled. Thai law and the DLT already require electric motorcycles with more than 250 Watt to be registered and insured. https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/30402252 Electric motorcycles have for pretty much forever not been looked as bicycles but as motorcycles as can be seen in the Motor Vehicle Act. In fact it counts bicycles with motors as motorcycles (no surprise). Quote “Motorcycle” means a vehicle driven by motor or electric power with not more than two wheels, or not more than an additional wheel in a sidecar, and shall include a bicycle equipped with motor driven devices; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriendlyFarang Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 35 minutes ago, eisfeld said: Thai law and the DLT already require electric motorcycles with more than 250 Watt to be registered and insured. https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/30402252 You understood this wrong. It says: "Meanwhile, electric motorcycles must be at least 250 watts and be capable of 45kph." This doesn't mean that vehicles with less than 250 watt aren't classed as motorcycles, but that it's not possible to register them. So two-wheeled vehicles with less than 250 watt aren't legal to drive on public roads at all, and over 250 watt has to be registered, insured etc. to be legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eisfeld Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 25 minutes ago, FriendlyFarang said: You understood this wrong. It says: "Meanwhile, electric motorcycles must be at least 250 watts and be capable of 45kph." This doesn't mean that vehicles with less than 250 watt aren't classed as motorcycles, but that it's not possible to register them. So two-wheeled vehicles with less than 250 watt aren't legal to drive on public roads at all, and over 250 watt has to be registered, insured etc. to be legal. Maybe you misread what I said? I think we agree. If more than or equal to 250W then you need to register and insure it to be legally allowed to ride on public roads. If less than 250W then you can't register them and hence can't legally ride them on public roads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriendlyFarang Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, eisfeld said: Maybe you misread what I said? I think we agree. If more than or equal to 250W then you need to register and insure it to be legally allowed to ride on public roads. If less than 250W then you can't register them and hence can't legally ride them on public roads. Not misread, but I interpreted your post so that you said that under 250 watt doesn't have to be registered and could still be ridden. You clarified it now, so yes we agree. Edited April 30, 2022 by FriendlyFarang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freedomnow Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 You could wear a cone hat on it and a bowtie ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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