Popular Post ozimoron Posted June 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 14, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: So far, 92 adults and 12 children have been brought ashore by Border Force officials on Tuesday after attempting to cross the Channel. They said they came from Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan. https://news.sky.com/story/rwanda-deportations-one-asylum-seeker-loses-legal-challenge-against-removal-to-african-nation-12633715 This link does not reflect the claims made by you in relation to this incident. Missing is the correct number, the dinghy and the departure point. This omission goes to the need to provide a credible link at the time a claim is made. Edited June 14, 2022 by ozimoron 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said: 13 Children were allowed to sail across the English channel today from Calais to the U.K in dinghies, putting their lives at risk , as previously kids have drowned making that journey . I wonder whether Charlie thinks that thats appalling as well ? It is. The uk govt should be ashamed that they didn’t allow them entry by safer means. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 20 minutes ago, ozimoron said: This link does not reflect the claims made by you in relation to this incident. Missing is the correct number, the dinghy and the departure point. This omission goes to the need to provide a credible link at the time a claim is made. OK, approximately 260 people have arrived in Dover/Kent today after arriving in numerous small boats from France and there were at least 12 Children among the group , as there were numerous small boats arriving at different times, the exact amount of people isn't known . There were 12 Children counted and one baby (13 Children?), "This latest arrival brings the number of migrants arriving in Kent today to approximately 260 people. At least seven small boats, presumably used during the crossings, have also been brought to Dover harbour. More than 10,000 people have made the dangerous crossing so far this year." https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/over-150-migrants-arrive-in-uk-border-force-rescue/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: It is. The uk govt should be ashamed that they didn’t allow them entry by safer means. Which Country in the World does that ? Which Country in the World provides transport for asylum seekers/illegal immigrants to use to get to their Country ? Edited June 14, 2022 by Mac Mickmanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Which Country in the World does that ? Which Country in the World provides transport for asylum seekers/illegal immigrants to use to get to their Country ? Poland. https://www.dw.com/en/polands-open-door-policy-helps-ukrainian-refugees-build-new-lives/a-61192590 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Which Country in the World does that ? Which Country in the World provides transport for asylum seekers/illegal immigrants to use to get to their Country ? Doesn’t change my view or previous response on how those fleeing terror, war or whatever has caused them to leave their home country should be treated. Edited June 14, 2022 by Bluespunk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 11 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: OK, approximately 260 people have arrived in Dover/Kent today after arriving in numerous small boats from France and there were at least 12 Children among the group , as there were numerous small boats arriving at different times, the exact amount of people isn't known . There were 12 Children counted and one baby (13 Children?), "This latest arrival brings the number of migrants arriving in Kent today to approximately 260 people. At least seven small boats, presumably used during the crossings, have also been brought to Dover harbour. More than 10,000 people have made the dangerous crossing so far this year." https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/over-150-migrants-arrive-in-uk-border-force-rescue/ We know there are many immigrants illegally crossing the channel, and sadly it includes children. But where is your evidence that they have been "allowed" to do so. Suggesting, I guess, that the French authorities had knowingly let children making such a risky trip. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Just now, ozimoron said: Poland. https://www.dw.com/en/polands-open-door-policy-helps-ukrainian-refugees-build-new-lives/a-61192590 I have read your link, but I cannot see where it is written that the Polish Government are laying on transport to bring the Ukraine's to Poland . Does the link that you provided back up your claim that the Polish Government is providing transport to bring Ukrainians to Poland ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: Doesn’t change my view or previous response on how those fleeing terror, war or whatever has caused them to leave their home country should be treated. I havent been to France recently . but is France really that bad these days ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: I have read your link, but I cannot see where it is written that the Polish Government are laying on transport to bring the Ukraine's to Poland . Does the link that you provided back up your claim that the Polish Government is providing transport to bring Ukrainians to Poland ? Most of those refugees arrived on trains from Ukraine. There have been numerous reports of train stations being shelled by Russia. Nearly 200,000 Ukrainian Refugees Have Left Poland by Train to Other EU Countries https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/nearly-200000-ukrainian-refugees-have-left-poland-by-train-to-other-eu-countries/ Edited June 14, 2022 by ozimoron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, candide said: But where is your evidence that they have been "allowed" to do so. Suggesting, I guess, that the French authorities had knowingly let children making such a risky trip. We don’t need sky to provide that evidence every day. We have seen it plenty of times in the UK press. 22 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: It is. The uk govt should be ashamed that they didn’t allow them entry by safer means. It’s quite obviously the French who should be ashamed for not stopping them in the first place. UK Border Force and the bleeding hearts migrants water taxis are doing much more for their safety. Haven’t noticed the Irish dropping down to help either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Most of those refugees arrived on trains from Ukraine. There have been numerous reports of train stations being shelled by Russia. Yes, there was the suggestion that the U.K should have provided safe transport for the Calais boat people to get to the UK and...................could you just scroll back to read the posts ? The U.K has also provided visas and accommodation for Ukrainians and I believe that the current measures taken by the UK Government to get rid of all the bogus asylum seekers is because they want to free up room for genuine asylum seekers , like Ukrainians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: I havent been to France recently . but is France really that bad these days ? Deflection. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Loiner said: We don’t need sky to provide that evidence every day. We have seen it plenty of times in the UK press. It’s quite obviously the French who should be ashamed for not stopping them in the first place. UK Border Force and the bleeding hearts migrants water taxis are doing much more for their safety. Haven’t noticed the Irish dropping down to help either. We know you don't care to provide evidence! Lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 12 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: Doesn’t change my view or previous response on how those fleeing terror, war or whatever has caused them to leave their home country should be treated. Doesn’t change my view on how illegal economic scrounges should be treated either. Booted straight out back to a French beach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Loiner said: It’s quite obviously the French who should be ashamed for not stopping them in the first place. UK Border Force and the bleeding hearts migrants water taxis are doing much more for their safety. Haven’t noticed the Irish dropping down to help either. First paragraph: nonsense. 2nd paragraph: my view is not limited to how the U.K. should act. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Loiner said: We don’t need sky to provide that evidence every day. We have seen it plenty of times in the UK press. Agreed but you need to provide it at least once in a an acceptable link. You haven't done so to my knowledge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Just now, Bluespunk said: Deflection. Not at all . You said that they were "fleeing war and terror" and you must mean France by that , as that is the place where they are fleeing from 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Just now, Loiner said: Doesn’t change my view on how illegal economic scrounges should be treated either. Booted straight out back to a French beach. Completely disagree with your jaundiced views on those fleeing terror and persecution. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Yes, there was the suggestion that the U.K should have provided safe transport for the Calais boat people to get to the UK and...................could you just scroll back to read the posts ? The U.K has also provided visas and accommodation for Ukrainians and I believe that the current measures taken by the UK Government to get rid of all the bogus asylum seekers is because they want to free up room for genuine asylum seekers , like Ukrainians Got a link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Just now, Mac Mickmanus said: Not at all . You said that they were "fleeing war and terror" and you must mean France by that , as that is the place where they are fleeing from See previous response. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Got a link? What bit do you want a link to ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: The U.K has also provided visas and accommodation for Ukrainians and I believe that the current measures taken by the UK Government to get rid of all the bogus asylum seekers is because they want to free up room for genuine asylum seekers , like Ukrainians Quite rightly so. Those poor women and children should be afforded safe haven until they are ready to rejoin their menfolk at home. Those are real refugees. For every woman and child helped, a bogus asylum seeking illegal Arab African or Asian male must be booted out of the UK. They are scrounging fakes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: What bit do you want a link to ? Your claim that the current measures taken by the UK Government to get rid of all the bogus asylum seekers is because they want to free up room for genuine asylum seekers , like Ukrainians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Agreed but you need to provide it at least once in a an acceptable link. You haven't done so to my knowledge. Sorry, not going to pander to your definition of ‘acceptable’. Seen you play that game already. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 37 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: It is. The uk govt should be ashamed that they didn’t allow them entry by safer means. How should the Irish Government feel ? Why haven't they provided daily boats from Calais to Dublin ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Loiner said: Sorry, not going to pander to your definition of ‘acceptable’. Seen you play that game already. It's not my game, it's the rules of this forum. "Acceptable" means in accordance with those rules. Edited June 14, 2022 by ozimoron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: How should the Irish Government feel ? Why haven't they provided daily boats from Calais to Dublin ? Already made clear on this thread that my views are not only applicable to the uk govt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Your claim that the current measures taken by the UK Government to get rid of all the bogus asylum seekers is because they want to free up room for genuine asylum seekers , like Ukrainians. That is my opinion , (I stated "I believe") based on the fact that now the U.K are getting rid of bogus asylum seekers and it comes just months after the UK Gov were asking British citizens to allow Ukrainians to stay in their homes I don't have a link to my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: That is my opinion , (I stated "I believe") based on the fact that now the U.K are getting rid of bogus asylum seekers and it comes just months after the UK Gov were asking British citizens to allow Ukrainians to stay in their homes I don't have a link to my opinion so you would admit to not have any basis for holding that opinion? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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