samuiseagull Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Been a few years since I was last in Samui. Back then, manual cars were easy to hire. Quick web search via the big companies seems to now only offer Automatic vehicles. Any advice as to where can rent a manual motor please? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin81 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Yes it seems most rental companies now mostly offer auto gear. Maybe try and rent a pick-up truck. They are mostly with manual gear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted July 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 29, 2022 26 minutes ago, samuiseagull said: Any advice as to where can rent a manual motor please? Obviously everyone has there own personal preferences. However, when renting, we only get fairly basic models of remarkably average vehicles.... Thus, why would anyone have a preference for manual over automatic ? (no criticism, I’m just curious thats all). I can understand why someone may want an auto over a manual, but the other way round seems somewhat strange. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samuiseagull Posted July 29, 2022 Author Share Posted July 29, 2022 3 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: Obviously everyone has there own personal preferences. However, when renting, we only get fairly basic models of remarkably average vehicles.... Thus, why would anyone have a preference for manual over automatic ? (no criticism, I’m just curious thats all). I can understand why someone may want an auto over a manual, but the other way round seems somewhat strange. It's a simple question. But this being the internet even simple questions go deep. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tropicalevo Posted July 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 29, 2022 3 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: why would anyone have a preference for manual over automatic ? I have always driven manual (53 years). I prefer to make the decisions as to when to change gear. Why let a dumb vehicle decide - it just makes for lazy driving. 4 2 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post paulbl Posted July 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 29, 2022 Try it before you slag it off. Automatic transmission has come a long way in 53 years,You might be pleasantly surprised I for one would never go back to a clunky knee destroying manual. 3 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post steve187 Posted July 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 29, 2022 8 hours ago, Tropicalevo said: I have always driven manual (53 years). I prefer to make the decisions as to when to change gear. Why let a dumb vehicle decide - it just makes for lazy driving. i think that's a view shared by older UK drivers, and its well outdated, modern auto's are reliable, easy to drive, compared to the old 4 speed auto's of yesteryear 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denim Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 I've owned both. For city driving in heavy traffic automatics are less tiring. But if you live in the provinces manuals are fine. Manuals have come a long way in 53 years. Gone are the heavy , tiring clutches of the past. Now very slick and smooth so no difficulty changing gears. However, Thai women being generally shorter might find reaching the pedals more difficult and prefer autos. I would even be prepared to pay more for a manual as I like their versatility. Each to his own as someone has said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 13 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: I can understand why someone may want an auto over a manual, but the other way round seems somewhat strange. I can also understand when people like manual, that's what racing drivers use and on the right track/road it's fun. But racing on Samui's roads sounds like a bad idea. And if it's just about getting from A to B there is no disadvantage with automatic. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NE1 Posted July 30, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 30, 2022 9 hours ago, Tropicalevo said: I prefer to make the decisions as to when to change gear. Why let a dumb vehicle decide - it just makes for lazy driving. My automatic has a "sport " option , which means you can go from automatic to semi automatic. In semi automatic you can change gear when you want , which I use quite often as the engine braking is good for driving with out having to brake all the time. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post khunPer Posted July 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2022 On 7/30/2022 at 2:30 AM, NE1 said: My automatic has a "sport " option , which means you can go from automatic to semi automatic. In semi automatic you can change gear when you want , which I use quite often as the engine braking is good for driving with out having to brake all the time. I can change gear easily in my standard automatic, I use when going up hill and down hill, instead of "Drive I can choose 3, 2 and Low...???? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chongalulu Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 On 7/29/2022 at 9:45 PM, Tropicalevo said: I have always driven manual (53 years). I prefer to make the decisions as to when to change gear. Why let a dumb vehicle decide - it just makes for lazy driving. The old reason was the power sapping torque converter of an automatic,but that’s not applicable any more so an automatic really has no disadvantages and operate so always in the right gear. Most have paddle shifters for the rare occasion you want to choose differently. It’s rather like not wanting anti lock brakes. I used to prefer manual until I drove a paddle shift SMG on my BMW M3 which was far better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted August 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 6, 2022 IF its just a hire car on samui for a few days the whole idea of specifically seeking out a manual is somewhat out there on the fringes of being neurotic... Its just a hire car on flat roads - its hardly renting out an exotic to take on the Nurburgring !!! 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cake Monster Posted August 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 6, 2022 On 7/29/2022 at 9:45 PM, Tropicalevo said: I have always driven manual (53 years). I prefer to make the decisions as to when to change gear. Why let a dumb vehicle decide - it just makes for lazy driving. It also makes the decisions between having 3 foot pedals to use and only 2 foot pedals easier. But there seem to be quite a few Drivers who cannot even decide on which pedal to push down on- even when there are only 2 to choose from 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Tempest Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 On 8/6/2022 at 10:37 AM, richard_smith237 said: IF its just a hire car on samui for a few days the whole idea of specifically seeking out a manual is somewhat out there on the fringes of being neurotic... Its just a hire car on flat roads - its hardly renting out an exotic to take on the Nurburgring !!! Have you ever been to Samui??? PR!CK! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 it is basic economics for the operator:- 1 Plenty of auto only drivers, not so many manual only. 2. Less chance of idiot drivers abusing and breaking auto only cars. And the basic, if unpalatable truth, that modern auto transmissions work better and are easier to drive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Woof999 Posted August 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 7, 2022 39 minutes ago, Troy Tempest said: Have you ever been to Samui??? PR!CK! Beautiful scenery. I think it would look better viewed from an automatic. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauptmannUK Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 I think the Thai market demand for manual transmission cars is very low and in fact many models are only available with auto. For example I believe Toyota saloon cars are now only available as auto. I remember a friend of mine wanted to buy a small eco-car with manual trans and the only one he could find at a dealer was a Suzuki Ciaz - and the manual spec car was very basic (cheaper trim, narrower tyres etc). Commercial/agricultural vehicles such as pickups are often available as manual. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicalevo Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 On 8/6/2022 at 4:37 PM, richard_smith237 said: IF its just a hire car on samui for a few days the whole idea of specifically seeking out a manual is somewhat out there on the fringes of being neurotic... Its just a hire car on flat roads - its hardly renting out an exotic to take on the Nurburgring !!! There are very few flat roads on Koh Samui. (If any.) Taxis and minivans will not pick up/drop off at many addresses - road to steep. (In Samui language - is the villa up the mountain? Cannot!) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Back to manual? Never. And good luck finding cars/limousines with manual. Only the very cheapest micro cars still offer this option to save a few more thousand Baht. More with pickups. because it's cheaper. Mercedes do not offer manual anymore for cars. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 11 hours ago, HauptmannUK said: remember a friend of mine wanted to buy a small eco-car with manual trans and the only one he could find at a dealer was a Suzuki Ciaz - and the manual spec car was very basic (cheaper trim, narrower tyres etc). You were faster. Unavailable for normal size cars. So how can one rent. Oldtimer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Tropicalevo said: Taxis and minivans will not pick up/drop off at many addresses - road to steep. (In Samui language - is the villa up the mountain? Cannot!) Either because they are incompetent drivers never touching their auto stick or having manual and will roll back to the beach with the clutch open I experienced some roads in Samui up to a waterfall with the scooter and yes that was extremely steep. But how many live on such roads? And watch Thai drivers using manual: they seldom will exceed 2000 rpm. Will overtake in 5th gear. They are a threat to public. Edited August 8, 2022 by KhunBENQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 12 hours ago, Troy Tempest said: Have you ever been to Samui??? Even the third picture from below is not a challenge. Not what I saw uphill to a waterfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RafPinto Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 On 8/6/2022 at 4:45 PM, Cake Monster said: It also makes the decisions between having 3 foot pedals to use and only 2 foot pedals easier. But there seem to be quite a few Drivers who cannot even decide on which pedal to push down on- even when there are only 2 to choose from Some ASEAN now members are known for "big". Big foot. Big evelising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 On 7/29/2022 at 9:45 PM, Tropicalevo said: I have always driven manual (53 years). I prefer to make the decisions as to when to change gear. Why let a dumb vehicle decide - it just makes for lazy driving. Sunbeam, even sewing machines are automatic now.....???? I would suggest that anything that is automatic will not be dumb, after all, automatic does the thinking for you, I guess you are not automatic, eh....... But, your request should not be knocked....???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ54 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Op I’ve a manual Swift you could buy it and drive everywhere…. Maybe look for a rental company that has Jeep… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Tropicalevo said: There are very few flat roads on Koh Samui. (If any.) Taxis and minivans will not pick up/drop off at many addresses - road to steep. (In Samui language - is the villa up the mountain? Cannot!) Fair point... but its hardly terrain an automatic is unable to handle, particularly as all automatics can be ‘locked in gear’... Thus: IF the Op was asking for a 4x4 which may better to drive such hills in the wet etc, then that would be understandable. But, the Op is simply asking for Manual over an Auto.... terrain was not mentioned... its just a simple preference... An Auto or Manual makes no difference in Samui... Its not as if he’s going off-roading or racing... Edited August 8, 2022 by richard_smith237 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, Troy Tempest said: Have you ever been to Samui??? PR!CK! Getting upset on a forum about an automatic car... What a child.. ???? I’d respond to content of your post, steep hills etc... but I really have no interest in entering a discussion with a fool... Edited August 8, 2022 by richard_smith237 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearbox Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 On 7/29/2022 at 5:34 PM, samuiseagull said: It's a simple question. But this being the internet even simple questions go deep. Try the Samui FB groups....just ask the question there. A lot of local businesses have members there, you may get more replies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 15 minutes ago, gearbox said: Try the Samui FB groups....just ask the question there. A lot of local businesses have members there, you may get more replies. This username answering this question... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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