Scott Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Motherboard has obtained court documents that show Facebook gave police a teenager’s private chats about her abortion. Cops then used those chats to seize her phone and computer. A 17-year-old girl and her mother have been charged with a series of felonies and misdemeanors after an apparent medication abortion at home in Nebraska. The state’s case relies on evidence from the teenager’s private Facebook messages, obtained directly from Facebook by court order, which show the mother and daughter allegedly bought medication to induce abortion online, and then disposed of the body of the fetus. https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7zevd/this-is-the-data-facebook-gave-police-to-prosecute-a-teenager-for-abortion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Well, so much for the assurances given that they wouldn't be prosecuting mothers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hanaguma Posted August 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2022 Don't you think that the prenancy being in its 28th week might have something to do with it? Not many places allow abortions at that advanced stage of pregnancy. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Hanaguma said: Don't you think that the prenancy being in its 28th week might have something to do with it? Not many places allow abortions at that advanced stage of pregnancy. That is true. Abortion in their second trimester are prohibited in most countries. Feel sorry for the parent and the young mother not given a choice to make the decision. Second trimester can be done safely in hospital. Edited August 10, 2022 by Eric Loh wrong word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanaguma Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 18 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: That is true. Abortion in their second trimester are prohibited in most countries. Feel sorry for the parent and the young mother not given a choice to make the decision. Second trimester can be done safely in hospital. And in Nebraska, you can legally get an abortion up tp 20 weeks. Dont know what is going on here. 28 weeks is a viable baby in most cases. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bluespunk Posted August 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2022 Yet another reason to boycott zuckerberg’s monster. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Credo Posted August 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2022 9 hours ago, Hanaguma said: And in Nebraska, you can legally get an abortion up tp 20 weeks. Dont know what is going on here. 28 weeks is a viable baby in most cases. I think the point is not the age of the fetus, but the fact that Facebook was turning over data that many feel should not be done. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanaguma Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Credo said: I think the point is not the age of the fetus, but the fact that Facebook was turning over data that many feel should not be done. The age of the fetus is actually crucial. It made what the mother/daughter were doing a crime. That may be the compelling reason for FB to release the data. They aren't being prosecuted for having an abortion but for having one far past the range that the law allows in Nebraska. The police were investigating some pretty serious felonies and Facebook was compelled by warrant to comply. FB didn't just volunteer the information. The two were charged with crimes, THEN Facebook was served a warrant to release their records. This wasn't a fishing expedition or malicious act by any means. If the police are investigating crimes that have already led to arrests, it seems reasonable for FB or other social media companies to assist the investigation, especially if forced to do so by court order. Nobody would care if this wasn't a situation that had abortion at it's centre. Here is a local news report; https://journalstar.com/news/state-and-regional/nebraska/norfolk-mother-and-daughter-accused-of-illegal-abortion-burning-and-burying-body/article_ff99fd49-a710-5ec3-8d51-5aced3001c71.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slip Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 17 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: The age of the fetus is actually crucial. It made what the mother/daughter were doing a crime. That may be the compelling reason for FB to release the data. They aren't being prosecuted for having an abortion but for having one far past the range that the law allows in Nebraska. The police were investigating some pretty serious felonies and Facebook was compelled by warrant to comply. FB didn't just volunteer the information. The two were charged with crimes, THEN Facebook was served a warrant to release their records. This wasn't a fishing expedition or malicious act by any means. If the police are investigating crimes that have already led to arrests, it seems reasonable for FB or other social media companies to assist the investigation, especially if forced to do so by court order. Nobody would care if this wasn't a situation that had abortion at it's centre. Here is a local news report; https://journalstar.com/news/state-and-regional/nebraska/norfolk-mother-and-daughter-accused-of-illegal-abortion-burning-and-burying-body/article_ff99fd49-a710-5ec3-8d51-5aced3001c71.html I don't think we really agree on much politically or socially Hanaguma, but I agree with everything you said there I think. Perhaps not the final sentence entirely ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanaguma Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Slip said: I don't think we really agree on much politically or socially Hanaguma, but I agree with everything you said there I think. Perhaps not the final sentence entirely ???? Appreciate it. Reasonable people can agree on "A", disagree on "B", and have a long chat over beers about "C". You would probably be surprised on what we agree on, but that is never what some people seek to do. Present company excluded, of course! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Hanaguma said: The age of the fetus is actually crucial. It made what the mother/daughter were doing a crime. That may be the compelling reason for FB to release the data. They aren't being prosecuted for having an abortion but for having one far past the range that the law allows in Nebraska. The police were investigating some pretty serious felonies and Facebook was compelled by warrant to comply. FB didn't just volunteer the information. The two were charged with crimes, THEN Facebook was served a warrant to release their records. This wasn't a fishing expedition or malicious act by any means. If the police are investigating crimes that have already led to arrests, it seems reasonable for FB or other social media companies to assist the investigation, especially if forced to do so by court order. Nobody would care if this wasn't a situation that had abortion at it's centre. Here is a local news report; https://journalstar.com/news/state-and-regional/nebraska/norfolk-mother-and-daughter-accused-of-illegal-abortion-burning-and-burying-body/article_ff99fd49-a710-5ec3-8d51-5aced3001c71.html Agreed. The woman in question and FB are subject to the law. Online comments are subject to the law. Courts have authority to compel online businesses to reveal data pertinent to criminal investigations. None of this should surprise anyone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro01 Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 9 hours ago, Credo said: I think the point is not the age of the fetus, but the fact that Facebook was turning over data that many feel should not be done. I agree, but I think there's a line somewhere. Murder, terrorism, pedophilia - I think we'd all agree there. But the thought of Facebook becoming a supergrass where you could be subject to investigation for words you type (which may be in jest) - that's some Aldous Huxley stuff right there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 So some people think Facebook should not turn over evidence of a murder and disposal of a body when the police request evidence with a court order ... hmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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