Popular Post Scott Posted August 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2022 Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., appears at an Election Day gathering in Jackson, Wyo., to concede defeat in a GOP primary to Harriet Hageman, who was backed by former President Trump. Cheney vows that she will carry on her work to make sure Trump doesn't return to the presidency. Jae C. Hong/AP Wyoming Republican Rep. Liz Cheney is laying out her future political plans, including a possible run against Donald Trump in 2024, after conceding defeat in the primary election for her House seat. Her loss on Tuesday followed unyielding criticism since the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol of the former president and his efforts to subvert the 2020 election. "This primary election is over, but now the real work begins," Cheney said in her concession speech Tuesday night, noting that she had called opponent Harriet Hageman to congratulate her. Cheney acknowledged in a Wednesday interview on NBC's Today she was "thinking" about running for president in 2024. https://www.npr.org/sections/2022-live-primary-election-race-results/2022/08/16/1117705185/liz-cheney-concedes-primary-defeat-but-her-fight-against-trump-continues 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bendejo Posted August 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2022 Now with nothing to lose, she has already come out swinging. She may be the most effective anti-DT Republican, and IMO if it wasn't for her grit the Dems would have muffed the 1/6 investigation by now. Do I want her to be president? HELL NO!!!! But I am looking forward to her debating in the primaries, particularly the invertebrates who will still have the stench of DT's backside on their breath. Has anyone else noticed that there is one establishment Republican DT has not bashed? It's her father. And DT's not all that rough on her either. The bully knows when to back off. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 I hope she waits until after the conclusion of the Jan 6 select committee investigation. The optics are not good if she declares while still on the committee. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 16 minutes ago, Credo said: I hope she waits until after the conclusion of the Jan 6 select committee investigation. The optics are not good if she declares while still on the committee. She will wait. No problem there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted August 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, bendejo said: Now with nothing to lose, she has already come out swinging. She may be the most effective anti-DT Republican, and IMO if it wasn't for her grit the Dems would have muffed the 1/6 investigation by now. Do I want her to be president? HELL NO!!!! But I am looking forward to her debating in the primaries, particularly the invertebrates who will still have the stench of DT's backside on their breath. Has anyone else noticed that there is one establishment Republican DT has not bashed? It's her father. And DT's not all that rough on her either. The bully knows when to back off. She has no chance of being nominated, but yes, it would be good to have her anti-trumpist voice still in the public eye. She could be building for a time when maybe the Trumpists fade away. It's hard to imagine that right now. His movement has become much bigger than him in the republican party. It's a completely different party now for better or worse. In my opinion MUCH WORSE because they're now quite explicitly white nationalist, anti-democracy, pro authoritarian, pro minority rule by dirty tricks on the court and gerrymandering, pro bigotry against non-white minorities, actively scapegoating LGBT people at a toxicity level I haven't seen in my lifetime, and infected with antisemitism. Edited August 17, 2022 by Jingthing 7 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegman Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 She seems to be determined to take on the mantle of Republican Party primary chief Trump troller. I have my doubts that he runs whether by his choice or that of others but regardless best of luck to Liz. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya Spotter Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 8 down 2 to go! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SunnyinBangrak Posted August 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2022 I don't get it. If she runs not a single proper Republican will vote for her, but lots of democrats, who love her as she has been one of their most effective players, will. Sounds like a delightful own goal? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stevenl Posted August 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 18, 2022 1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said: I don't get it. If she runs not a single proper Republican will vote for her, but lots of democrats, who love her as she has been one of their most effective players, will. Sounds like a delightful own goal? Since her policies are republican, wrong on both counts. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyinBangrak Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, stevenl said: Since her policies are republican, wrong on both counts. Did you notice the result of the Wyoming Republican primary? She took an absolute shellacking even after spending a king's ransom on her campaign. Republicans do not like her. They do not like her policies. They do not like her conniving and scheming with the democrats during the one sided Jan 6th show. She is toast. Her family dynasty is toast. Thank you so much Donald Trump. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AndyFoxy Posted August 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 18, 2022 Love that photo. The look of a real loser. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stevenl Posted August 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 18, 2022 35 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said: Did you notice the result of the Wyoming Republican primary? She took an absolute shellacking even after spending a king's ransom on her campaign. Republicans do not like her. They do not like her policies. They do not like her conniving and scheming with the democrats during the one sided Jan 6th show. She is toast. Her family dynasty is toast. Thank you so much Donald Trump. Trumpies do not like her, Dems like her but not her policies, republicans like her policies. So you're wrong on both counts. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said: Did you notice the result of the Wyoming Republican primary? She took an absolute shellacking even after spending a king's ransom on her campaign. Republicans do not like her. They do not like her policies. They do not like her conniving and scheming with the democrats during the one sided Jan 6th show. She is toast. Her family dynasty is toast. Thank you so much Donald Trump. A result that came as a direct result of the Wyoming GOP being stacked with MAGA and middle of the Road Republicans not taking part. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted August 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 18, 2022 Trump has handed Cheney her campaign platform. The soul of the GOP and a return to what the GOP stood for over decades. Or voters can stick with criminality, corruption, hatred, treachery and obstruction to what’s best for ordinary Americans. The GOP under Trump is a radicalized mess. Good luck Cheney. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LarrySR Posted August 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 18, 2022 2 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said: I don't get it. If she runs not a single proper Republican will vote for her, but lots of democrats, who love her as she has been one of their most effective players, will. Sounds like a delightful own goal? ‘QANON Weirdo’ is considered a “proper Republican” by some. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted August 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 18, 2022 1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said: Did you notice the result of the Wyoming Republican primary? She took an absolute shellacking even after spending a king's ransom on her campaign. Republicans do not like her. They do not like her policies. They do not like her conniving and scheming with the democrats during the one sided Jan 6th show. She is toast. Her family dynasty is toast. Thank you so much Donald Trump. Few wrongs in your rant. 1. Not all Republicans do not like her. Only 53% of GOP voters hold unfavourable views of Cheney. 2. Her policies are focus on national security, support the military, pro-business & fiscal and social conservatism. Much in line with the party's principles. 3. Her role on Jan 6 committee was after GOP pulls out of participation. Most hearings were with GOP staffs and officers. Not one -sided as you allege. 4. She still have a long way to go being much younger than Trump and she will outlast Trump as Trump's influence wane. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said: Did you notice the result of the Wyoming Republican primary? She took an absolute shellacking even after spending a king's ransom on her campaign. Republicans do not like her. They do not like her policies. Can you share with us the policies that she supports that Republicans do not like? Liz Cheney Voted With Trump 93 Percent of Her Congressional Career https://www.newsweek.com/liz-cheney-voted-donald-trump-93-percent-congress-1734186 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 Maybe President Biden can offer her a job in the current administration. Perhaps....in the DOJ? [(Bloomberg) -- President Joe Biden called Liz Cheney on Wednesday after the Wyoming congresswoman and vocal critic of former President Donald Trump was defeated in her state’s Republican primary.] https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-called-cheney-after-her-loss-to-trump-backed-challenger/ar-AA10MgAi?ocid=wispr&cvid=284d3fc0f5734f1f849c72852987f2f3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SunnyinBangrak Posted August 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 18, 2022 17 minutes ago, placeholder said: Can you share with us the policies that she supports that Republicans do not like? Liz Cheney Voted With Trump 93 Percent of Her Congressional Career https://www.newsweek.com/liz-cheney-voted-donald-trump-93-percent-congress-1734186 She is pro military involvement in foreign sovereign nations. It's the legacy of her family dynasty. "Wyoming Rep. Chuck Gray (R-Casper) blamed Cheney directly for the scenario in Afghanistan, saying in a statement that she “and other radical socialists” undermined former president Donald Trump’s efforts to negotiate with the Taliban last year. “The Taliban would not have double-crossed President Trump, because they understood he would not allow it,” Gray wrote in a statement. “What happened in Afghanistan is another result of Cheney voting to impeach President Trump to strengthen Biden and Pelosi.” https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/07/21/pelosi-rejects-republicans-banks-jordan-jan-6-select-committee/8042839002/ As you are well aware the MAGA movement is strongly against wars in foreign nations. We would have negotiated instead of allowing the horrific Russia/Ukraine/USA war to start. We would not have fled in chaotic scenes from Afghanistan before that old chestnut blaming Trump for another of Biden's failures starts again. 2 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 13 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said: She is pro military involvement in foreign sovereign nations. It's the legacy of her family dynasty. "Wyoming Rep. Chuck Gray (R-Casper) blamed Cheney directly for the scenario in Afghanistan, saying in a statement that she “and other radical socialists” undermined former president Donald Trump’s efforts to negotiate with the Taliban last year. “The Taliban would not have double-crossed President Trump, because they understood he would not allow it,” Gray wrote in a statement. “What happened in Afghanistan is another result of Cheney voting to impeach President Trump to strengthen Biden and Pelosi.” https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/07/21/pelosi-rejects-republicans-banks-jordan-jan-6-select-committee/8042839002/ As you are well aware the MAGA movement is strongly against wars in foreign nations. We would have negotiated instead of allowing the horrific Russia/Ukraine/USA war to start. We would not have fled in chaotic scenes from Afghanistan before that old chestnut blaming Trump for another of Biden's failures starts again. Really weird. On the one hand you claim MAGAists don't support interventions. But then you claim that Trump wouldn't have fled even though Trump negotiated an earlier withdrawal with the Taliban and slashed the number of troops there. What would Trump have done when the Afghan forces collapsed? Gone back into Afghanistan with a large American force to stabilize the situation? That's what Liz Cheney would have done. I would call that an intervention. Such hypocrisy. And anyway, you wrote "policies" not "policy". List some of the other policies that Cheney supports that MAGAists don't. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 (edited) With a bit of cleverness and cunning the Dems could make this a 'divide and conquer' moment. Don't hold your breath. She could emerge as the Joan of Arc of the GOP, but it may also give strength to the conservative "back in time" initiative. I don't recall her criticizing the Clarence Thomas "we're coming for you!" announcement. She was all for DT's paleo-conservative stuff, it's just him that she's against. There is also a lot of nasty business her father ran during Bush 43 time, but no one has/had the guts to go after him, not even (the late) GHW Bush. My joke has been that the contraption that keeps his heart pumping has a transceiver to which The Devil has the remote control. Of course this has nothing to do with her, but she does play it like she's the apple that didn't fall far from the tree. She can even sneer when she's talking, just like dad. 19 minutes ago, placeholder said: What would Trump have done when the Afghan forces collapsed? Gone back into Afghanistan with a large American force to stabilize the situation? That's what Liz Cheney would have done. Again, just like dad. That man is the physical embodiment of the US military-industrial bond. I'm sure there would a job waiting for her at Haliburton next January if she wanted it. Edited August 18, 2022 by bendejo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 4 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said: 8 down 2 to go! Does this mean that you and SunnyinBangrak will be rooting for the Democratic opponents of those 2 in November? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemmie Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 If she ran, she would suffer a humiliating loss. Whats the best way yo win an election against Trump, ask Nancy. "Voters react to Nancy Pelosi claiming Democrats will win midterm elections without Trump on the ballot" https://www.foxnews.com/politics/watch-voters-react-nancy-pelosi-predicting-democrats-win-midterm-elections-trump-ballot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 43 minutes ago, lemmie said: If she ran, she would suffer a humiliating loss. Whats the best way yo win an election against Trump, ask Nancy. "Voters react to Nancy Pelosi claiming Democrats will win midterm elections without Trump on the ballot" https://www.foxnews.com/politics/watch-voters-react-nancy-pelosi-predicting-democrats-win-midterm-elections-trump-ballot Topic is about Liz Cheney and Pelosi has no Presidential ambition at ripe old age of 82. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemmie Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: Topic is about Liz Cheney and Pelosi has no Presidential ambition at ripe old age of 82 "Liz Cheney is considering a presidential run to stop Trump after losing her House seat" Yes you be correct in saying the topic is about Liz Cheney and someone named Trump (who is said by some (pelosi) that he can't be beat by others if he is on the ticket) Edited October 15, 2022 by lemmie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 3 hours ago, lemmie said: "Liz Cheney is considering a presidential run to stop Trump after losing her House seat" Yes you be correct in saying the topic is about Liz Cheney and someone named Trump (who is said by some (pelosi) that he can't be beat by others if he is on the ticket) Me stupid! I thought Trump had been beaten in 2020! ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post vandeventer Posted October 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2022 On 8/18/2022 at 6:46 AM, SunnyinBangrak said: I don't get it. If she runs not a single proper Republican will vote for her, but lots of democrats, who love her as she has been one of their most effective players, will. Sounds like a delightful own goal? IF she runs for President it just shows that anybody can run for President. Even the 2.5 million illegal's that crossed over on Biden's watch. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 On 10/14/2022 at 8:17 PM, lemmie said: "Voters react to Nancy Pelosi claiming Democrats will win midterm elections without Trump on the ballot" About as valid as the one about Michelle Obama making a run. Not as funny either. Sounds like you guys are looking for a new woman to demonize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 On 10/16/2022 at 9:04 AM, Road Hog said: IF she runs for President it just shows that anybody can run for President. Even the 2.5 million illegal's that crossed over on Biden's watch. Because she's not a citizen? Or you believe that undocumented aliens can run? Few things as sad as a failed joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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