bobbin Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) Still on the first of 30 pages but I took a time out to read his speech.. No question he was espousing a racist ideology. As a Canadian, I come from an "immigrant" country.. all of us are immigrants. The only difference among us is how many generations we have been Canadians. Lots of Brits here lamenting the increased immigrant populations. But here is a question for you.. How much money did the UK extract from only one (India) colonial possession? The answer is thought to be US$46 Trillion. Didn't do the currency conversion, but more than 30T+ Pounds.. Multiply by the other colonial possessions. Britain become rich and globally significant because of this... Now you complain about having to share your first-world lifestyle. Edited September 9, 2022 by bobbin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 2 hours ago, proton said: How about hundreds of muslims and hindus rioting in Leicester all week- over a cricket match! Very much played down of course https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/appeals-calm-end-violence-after-7553966 They are in England , sports related violence , violence between opposite team supporters is a national past time . Fighting with other supporters is part of the game in the U.K 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, bert bloggs said: My answer to that is my family love my wife and she loves them in the many yrs she lived in the UK she completely integrated and i mean completely unlike the immigrants being discused here. Who are the immigrants being discussed here ? Sidiqi Khan ? Priti Patel ? Frank Bruno ? Sol Campbell , Lenny Henry ? Trevor McDonald ? Shirley Bassey ? Noami Campbell , Nigel Benn ? Viv Anderson ? Sunak , Ryan Giggs , Ashley Cole , Linford Christie Who are we talking about ? Edited September 9, 2022 by Mac Mickmanus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 5 hours ago, bert bloggs said: My answer to that is my family love my wife and she loves them in the many yrs she lived in the UK she completely integrated and i mean completely unlike the immigrants being discused here. Are/Were you fully integrated into Thai society ? Speaking Thai, wearing Thai clothes and eating Thai food and not eating that "foreign rubbish" food ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 3 hours ago, proton said: How about hundreds of muslims and hindus rioting in Leicester all week- over a cricket match! Very much played down of course https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/appeals-calm-end-violence-after-7553966 And what about those violent ethnic Indian and Pakistani football hooligans...oh wait a minute. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 4 hours ago, transam said: it was his vision, he was right...................???? Has the UK streets seen murder by home grown foreign rooted extremists in the UK..? Just a Yes or No will do.. Is the UK Secret Service spending zillions on following foreign rooted home grown and other extremists around....? Yes or No will do..... I don't think even the mods imagine that they can dictate what form a response will take. Just what level of authority do you imagine you have in this forum? Powell predicted civil war. Neither of these points you raise are examples of that. And they're spending "zillions"?. Is that a standard zillion or an Imperial zillion? It is to laugh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 5 hours ago, transam said: it was his vision, he was right...................???? Has the UK streets seen murder by home grown foreign rooted extremists in the UK..? Just a Yes or No will do.. Is the UK Secret Service spending zillions on following foreign rooted home grown and other extremists around....? Yes or No will do..... The U.K was rather tolerant of hard-line/extremist Muslims about 10-20 years ago , allowing abu hamza and the like to air their viewpoint on the streets and the extremist were quite vociferous . That has all changed recently and the extremists have been jailed, deported or their UK passports cancelled and their Mosques been closed . The Muslim extremists have been clamped down upon and are now longer visible/exist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 59 minutes ago, placeholder said: I don't think even the mods imagine that they can dictate what form a response will take. Just what level of authority do you imagine you have in this forum? Powell predicted civil war. Neither of these points you raise are examples of that. And they're spending "zillions"?. Is that a standard zillion or an Imperial zillion? It is to laugh. 59 minutes ago, placeholder said: I don't think even the mods imagine that they can dictate what form a response will take. Just what level of authority do you imagine you have in this forum? Powell predicted civil war. Neither of these points you raise are examples of that. And they're spending "zillions"?. Is that a standard zillion or an Imperial zillion? It is to laugh. So you can't answer my questions, just go off on a tangent, never mind, eh, I am getting used to it..........................???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: The U.K was rather tolerant of hard-line/extremist Muslims about 10-20 years ago , allowing abu hamza and the like to air their viewpoint on the streets and the extremist were quite vociferous . That has all changed recently and the extremists have been jailed, deported or their UK passports cancelled and their Mosques been closed . The Muslim extremists have been clamped down upon and are now longer visible/exist Yes it happened, Enoch's thoughts were right, and I am sure these people are still working in the woodwork, but they know the Secret Service is spending a lot of time and taxpayers money curtailing their stuff.... Again, Enoch was right, and the racists are the folk who want nothing to do with the UK but use it, change it, or do their own thing in it. Plus, we now have far more armed police on the streets, why, the foreign rooted trouble....All in Enoch's vision, he was right. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 22 minutes ago, transam said: Again, Enoch was right, and the racists are the folk who want nothing to do with the UK but use it, change it, or do their own thing in it. And you choose not to live in the U.K and you want the UK to change ?. People living in the U.K have the freedom to "do their own thing" and try to change things . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post transam Posted September 9, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 9, 2022 10 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: And you choose not to live in the U.K and you want the UK to change ?. People living in the U.K have the freedom to "do their own thing" and try to change things . I decided to retire in another country, why would I personally want the UK to change, the thread is about Enoch Powell on a Thai/fang forum for discussion....???? The people in the UK ARE doing their own thing to stop foreign rooted trouble in the UK, its called the Secret Service, a difficult job, and Enoch was right....???? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post proton Posted September 9, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, transam said: I decided to retire in another country, why would I personally want the UK to change, the thread is about Enoch Powell on a Thai/fang forum for discussion....???? The people in the UK ARE doing their own thing to stop foreign rooted trouble in the UK, its called the Secret Service, a difficult job, and Enoch was right....???? The usual figure quoted is that the secret service have 20k terror suspects in the uk under observation, almost all of them Islamist immigrants and they have stopped several terror attacks since the London bus bombs, sadly a few have taken place as well. They actually do want rivers of blood! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Just now, proton said: The usual figure quoted is that the secret service have 20k terror suspects in the uk under observation, almost all of them Islamist immigrants and they have stopped several terror attacks since the London bus bombs, sadly a few have taken place as well. They actually do want rivers of blood! Yep, and if the UK did not have an excellent Secret Service, what would be happening on UK streets, Enoch was right, the racist callers here are very wrong.....???? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, transam said: I decided to retire in another country, why would I personally want the UK to change, the thread is about Enoch Powell on a Thai/fang forum for discussion....???? The people in the UK ARE doing their own thing to stop foreign rooted trouble in the UK, its called the Secret Service, a difficult job, and Enoch was right....???? The secret service monitor all groups that cause trouble : Animal liberation groups , Communist groups , Left/Right Wing extremists , Religious extremists, IRA , Neo Nazis and numerous other people/groups . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Just now, Mac Mickmanus said: The secret service monitor all groups that cause trouble : Animal liberation groups , Communist groups , Left/Right Wing extremists , Religious extremists, IRA , Neo Nazis and numerous other people/groups . Correct, but we are talking about Enoch here and his words/visions of hassle from foreign rooted folk in the UK. He was right, the UK prisons are filling up with them. Folk planning blood on the streets of the UK.....Enoch was right.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 3 hours ago, transam said: Yes it happened, Enoch's thoughts were right, and I am sure these people are still working in the woodwork, but they know the Secret Service is spending a lot of time and taxpayers money curtailing their stuff.... Again, Enoch was right, and the racists are the folk who want nothing to do with the UK but use it, change it, or do their own thing in it. Plus, we now have far more armed police on the streets, why, the foreign rooted trouble....All in Enoch's vision, he was right. No he wasn't. 2 hours ago, transam said: I decided to retire in another country, why would I personally want the UK to change, the thread is about Enoch Powell on a Thai/fang forum for discussion....???? The people in the UK ARE doing their own thing to stop foreign rooted trouble in the UK, its called the Secret Service, a difficult job, and Enoch was right....???? No he wasn't. 2 hours ago, transam said: Yep, and if the UK did not have an excellent Secret Service, what would be happening on UK streets, Enoch was right, the racist callers here are very wrong.....???? No he wasn't 2 hours ago, transam said: Correct, but we are talking about Enoch here and his words/visions of hassle from foreign rooted folk in the UK. He was right, the UK prisons are filling up with them. Folk planning blood on the streets of the UK.....Enoch was right.... ...and no. No he wasn't. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 8 hours ago, proton said: How about hundreds of muslims and hindus rioting in Leicester all week- over a cricket match! Very much played down of course https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/appeals-calm-end-violence-after-7553966 Hundreds? All week? It appears that a few, cherry-picked video clips of a few isolated incidents of violence between those of Pakistan and India heritage after a cricket match in Leicester are now appearing on south Asian websites that propagate Muslim and Hindu bigotry and violence. No "rivers of blood" to be seen here. Move along now. Who won the cricket BTW? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 4 hours ago, transam said: Correct, but we are talking about Enoch here and his words/visions of hassle from foreign rooted folk in the UK. He was right, the UK prisons are filling up with them. Folk planning blood on the streets of the UK.....Enoch was right.... He wasn’t right about the ‘whip hand’ he wasn’t right about ‘civil war’. He completely omitted the millions of positive stories of integration, participation and contribution. He was a racist, admired and defended then, as now, by racists. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 4 hours ago, transam said: Yep, and if the UK did not have an excellent Secret Service, what would be happening on UK streets, Enoch was right, the racist callers here are very wrong.....???? One of the things the UK’s secret service is doing is monitoring websites distributing hate messaging, and those who frequent them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert bloggs Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 Just reading the paper,a gang of 100 invade a birthday party in a church and stab one to death. I wont even bother to say what colour they all were, but there were rivers of blood. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post transam Posted September 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2022 12 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: He wasn’t right about the ‘whip hand’ he wasn’t right about ‘civil war’. He completely omitted the millions of positive stories of integration, participation and contribution. He was a racist, admired and defended then, as now, by racists. You forget, I am not a racist, the confused call folk racists who are not.....???? Controlling immigration has nothing to do with racism, only to the blind, it does......???? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 12 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: One of the things the UK’s secret service is doing is monitoring websites distributing hate messaging, and those who frequent them. I am sure they are, that is how they pinpoint all aspects of protecting UK streets from things envisaged by Enoch many decades ago.....Hoorah, Hoorah....???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 20 minutes ago, transam said: You forget, I am not a racist, the confused call folk racists who are not.....???? Controlling immigration has nothing to do with racism, only to the blind, it does......???? I never even suggested you are a racist. Powell wasn’t talking about controlling immigration, he was race baiting, his ideas were directed at people on the basis of race, including suggestions of repatriating people. He was a racist, admired and defended then, as now by racists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post transam Posted September 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2022 7th July 2005..... Was this bus bombing blood on UK streets .....? Who did it, who killed the innocent travellers...? Enoch's vision was correct...He was right.. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 Just now, transam said: 7th July 2005..... Was this bus bombing blood on UK streets .....? Who did it, who killed the innocent travellers...? Enoch's vision was correct...He was right.. Civil war? Whip hand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Civil war? Whip hand? That's no answer, as usual a dodge....???? Edited September 10, 2022 by transam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, transam said: That's no answer, as usual a dodge....???? Not a dodge, direct comments made by the racist Powell. Unfortunately he never made any predictions on the illegal invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan, or the likely consequences of illegal wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 (edited) 40 minutes ago, transam said: That's no answer, as usual a dodge....???? Thanks for editing your post to include a photo that demonstrates precisely why Powell and his racist admirers and supporters are wrong. Powell never predicted terrorism, even though the UK had experience of it. Nor did he predict the vast majority of non white, non Anglo Saxon Britons being proud of their nation, contributing to the welfare and good of the nation, abiding by the law, many serving in the armed forces, police. Look how proud and happy that woman looks. Powell was a racist, all he had was messages of fear and hate. Then, as now, he had his admirers and defenders. Incidentally, did you take that photo yourself or was it after you had already left the UK? Edited September 10, 2022 by Chomper Higgot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 1 hour ago, transam said: You forget, I am not a racist, the confused call folk racists who are not.....???? Controlling immigration has nothing to do with racism, only to the blind, it does......???? But couching it in racial terms is racist. And that's what Powell did in his Rivers of Blood speech. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivor bigun Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Phnom Penh Trader said: The Alf Garnett of the forum has spoken hey did you know that muppet Tommy Robinson is an immigrant in Spain now btw? yes but like us in Thailand i very much doubt he will ever carry out terrorist acts against the indiginous population . and neither will his followers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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