Big Joke says he's investigating Immigration from top to bottom : 27 cops in headlights

[webfact]

Daily News Thai Caption: Make 'em squeal

 

Top investigator Pol Gen Surachate "Big Joke" Hakpan did not mince his words when saying he intended to see a full investigation at the Immigration Bureau from non-commissioned classes to the generals.

 

He is investigating links in the IB ranks to the granting of favors to Chinese nationals looking to live and do business in Thailand. 

 

He was speaking at RTP HQ in Bangkok yesterday after a three hour session with his chief, General Damrong Kittipraphat.

 

He said the investigation has progressed but they were still looking into the transfer of money.

 

Some crime could probably be traced abroad but there was as yet no evidence of that in the inquiry.

 

He called on Chuwit Kamolwisit to present more evidence if he has it intimating thanks for previous help received, reported Daily News.

 

Surachate was asked to comment on implied criticism of his capabilities by Chuwit brushing away the firebrand's concerns.

 

He stressed that it was important that everyone worked together and that evidence was at the heart of the investigation. 

 

At the moment 27 IB police are in the frame for having committed criminal offences.

 

Among these are former classmates of the charismatic cop named Big Joke.

 

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[lujanit]

2 minutes ago, webfact said:

At the moment 27 IB police are in the frame for having committed criminal offences.

Only 27?  You are not looking hard enough.  I would think the number of corrupt IO's run into the hundreds.

[BananaStrong]

Agent fees will soon triple!   700,000 fee so they can say you have 800,000.  Lol

[mikeymike100]

15 minutes ago, BananaStrong said:

Agent fees will soon triple!   700,000 fee so they can say you have 800,000.  Lol

He is not looking at agents fees for retirement extensions? He is looking for a much bigger kettle of fish?

 

"He is investigating links in the IB ranks to the granting of favors to Chinese nationals looking to live and do business in Thailand. "

[JimGant]

39 minutes ago, CelticBhoy said:

It will be interesting to see how this turns out.

Last time he tried to clean up the Imm Police, he was mysteriously removed from office. Then, his car was peppered with eight gunshots.  I guess some folks just don't like their gravy train messed with. Hopefully now he has a large security detail, to include a food tester.

[zzaa09]

11 minutes ago, JimGant said:

Last time he tried to clean up the Imm Police, he was mysteriously removed from office. Then, his car was peppered with eight gunshots.  I guess some folks just don't like their gravy train messed with. Hopefully now he has a large security detail, to include a food tester.

Some just don't know when not to interfere beyond the call. 

I suspect that he really does......easier guess to suggest that this is a rhetorical publicity and image stunt. 

Part of the show.

[Maybole]

He is skating on very thin ice. I hope his life insurance is up to date

[smedly]

1 hour ago, lujanit said:

Only 27?  You are not looking hard enough.  I would think the number of corrupt IO's run into the hundreds.

by far the biggest corrupt practice involving IO I have observed over years is when people use agents to circumvent the financial requirements for 12 month extensions, pretty much every person I know uses an agent and does not meet the financial requirements "in Thailand" for either bank balance or income, bribes are paid to circumvent the rules

[ChrisY1]

Thb 20K visa price about to rise!

[Smokey and the Bandit]

1 hour ago, mikeymike100 said:

He is not looking at agents fees for retirement extensions? He is looking for a much bigger kettle of fish?

 

"He is investigating links in the IB ranks to the granting of favors to Chinese nationals looking to live and do business in Thailand. "

Quite, although agents do business with IO's, this is not what 'Big Joke' is after?

He is after Chinese gangsters and illegal businesses, like casinos?

In another thread on AN......."Recent raids and investigations in Thailand have highlighted potential links between Chinese gangsters and Thai local officials"

 

This is not a few thousand baht, or hundreds of thousands, they are talking about Billions of baht?

[ozfarang]

47 minutes ago, smedly said:

by far the biggest corrupt practice involving IO I have observed over years is when people use agents to circumvent the financial requirements for 12 month extensions, pretty much every person I know uses an agent and does not meet the financial requirements "in Thailand" for either bank balance or income, bribes are paid to circumvent the rules

'Big Joke' is not investigating agents who facilitate retirement visa extensions. He is investigating evidence that has been presented to him by Chuwit Kamolwisit and other much more serious visa infractions by wealthy chinese/thai businesses to facilitate Thai ID cards and visa extensions and illegal businesses amongst other corrupt practices

Edited December 13, 2022 by ozfarang

[Orinoco]

11 minutes ago, ozfarang said:

'Big Joke' is not investigating agents who facilitate retirement visa extensions. He is investigating evidence that has been presented to him by Chuwit Kamolwisit and other much more serious visa infractions by wealthy chinese/thai businesses to facilitate Thai ID cards and visa extensions and illegal businesses amongst other corrupt practices

Maybe so.

But Sh!!!!!!!!!!! rolls down hill.

So expect some sh!!!!!!!!!!! to come in the near future.

 

 

 

Edited December 13, 2022 by Orinoco

[Nip]

1 hour ago, smedly said:

by far the biggest corrupt practice involving IO I have observed over years is when people use agents to circumvent the financial requirements for 12 month extensions, pretty much every person I know uses an agent and does not meet the financial requirements "in Thailand" for either bank balance or income, bribes are paid to circumvent the rules

That’s a very dangerous statement to make since your identity can be easily established. 

[ardsong]

8 minutes ago, Nip said:

That’s a very dangerous statement to make since your identity can be easily established. 

not so when he does  the ext. himself,but only when @smedly  would be using one of the agent services I guess

[proton]

51 minutes ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

Quite, although agents do business with IO's, this is not what 'Big Joke' is after?

He is after Chinese gangsters and illegal businesses, like casinos?

In another thread on AN......."Recent raids and investigations in Thailand have highlighted potential links between Chinese gangsters and Thai local officials"

 

This is not a few thousand baht, or hundreds of thousands, they are talking about Billions of baht?

How much do you think bribes for extensions bring in nation wide a year? Hopefully he will get round to the corrupt offices raking in millions via agents, and the fraudsters having thier extension cancelled.

[proton]

20 minutes ago, Nip said:

That’s a very dangerous statement to make since your identity can be easily established. 

How? I doubt Smedly is a real name and that he is using a VPN and could even be posting away from his home.

[champers]

When he has done with rooting out the bad Chinese will he move onto the bad Indians, Russians, Brits, Aussies, Koreans, etc?

From today's news it seems that Japanese gangsters are next on his hit list. Yakuza beware!

Edited December 13, 2022 by champers

[TheFishman1]

Let’s just wait and see how it all turns out I mean at the wrong they still can’t find the Red Bull kid. He’ll be back as soon as all his crimes are over due to statute of limitations. TIT.

[Smokey and the Bandit]

1 minute ago, proton said:

How much do you think bribes for extensions bring in nation wide a year? Hopefully he will get round to the corrupt offices raking in millions via agents, and the fraudsters having thier extension cancelled.

I really don't know, but whatever the amount, its a drop in the ocean compared to what the Chinese businessman/gangsters are turning over?

[smedly]

36 minutes ago, Nip said:

That’s a very dangerous statement to make since your identity can be easily established. 

does it bother you

[smedly]

19 minutes ago, proton said:

How much do you think bribes for extensions bring in nation wide a year? Hopefully he will get round to the corrupt offices raking in millions via agents, and the fraudsters having thier extension cancelled.

huge

[JimHuaHin]

Does this mean that there will be a big recruitment drive soon for more staff?

[KannikaP]

1 hour ago, smedly said:

pretty much every person I know uses an agent and does not meet the financial requirements "in Thailand" for either bank balance or income, bribes are paid to circumvent the rules

You know plenty of poor people then?

[Olmate]

8 minutes ago, JimHuaHin said:

Does this mean that there will be a big recruitment drive soon for more staff?

Top Investigator role will be hard to fill! 

[Aussieroaming]

Who is next? Maybe he could start the new year investigating the RTP, they are as dirty as any establishment if news reports are correct.

[jimn]

2 hours ago, ChrisY1 said:

Thb 20K visa price about to rise!

Thats funny what a silly statement. This is nothing to do with agent fees for a visa

[jacko45k]

12 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

You know plenty of poor people then?

What defines a poor person more.... an inability to find 800k baht to tie  up and pretty much  be unable to use for a long term, or one who can't afford to pay 15000 baht each year for something?

[jesimps]

2 hours ago, smedly said:

by far the biggest corrupt practice involving IO I have observed over years is when people use agents to circumvent the financial requirements for 12 month extensions, pretty much every person I know uses an agent and does not meet the financial requirements "in Thailand" for either bank balance or income, bribes are paid to circumvent the rules

Agreed. The agent's skivvy bowls in with a dozen passports and the IOs drop everything for them. Same with driving permits. It'd be hard to find one, apart from BJ, who isn't on the take.

[Sheryl]

3 hours ago, lujanit said:

Only 27?  You are not looking hard enough.  I would think the number of corrupt IO's run into the hundreds.

You are being generous. 

 

I would have said thousands.

 

Just wish he would take a look at my iO. Even filing a 90 day report requires an "unofficial fee". 

[KannikaP]

20 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

What defines a poor person more.... an inability to find 800k baht to tie  up and pretty much  be unable to use for a long term, or one who can't afford to pay 15000 baht each year for something?

Do it the easy, legal way = Bht 65k per month of which you can spend every last satang.