Prince Harry has described how "terrifying" it was to have his brother "scream and shout" at him when they met to discuss his and Meghan's future.

In a Netflix series, Prince Harry says it was his decision, not Meghan's, to leave after plans for a half-in, half-out royal life were rejected during a family meeting at Sandringham.

He says his father said things that "just simply weren't true" as his grandmother, the Queen, looked on.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-63983062

• Harry says a tweet comparing baby Archie to a chimp was "one of the first things" he saw after the birth in 2019

   Just to keep that in perspective  , it was a post by a BBC presenter humorously suggesting that the Royal family are like a circus and it wasn't done as an act of racism .

   As soon as the presenter realised the racist connection  he deleted the post and apologised and then got sacked .

  Whilst the presenter cannot really have any complaints about getting sacked , I do think that Harry should have accepted the apology and understood the context and that is wasn't deliberately  racist  and that is was a misunderstanding and Harry should have moved on, rather than bringing it back into the spotlight 

 

"Once again. Sincere apologies for the stupid unthinking gag pic earlier. Was supposed to be joke about Royals vs circus animals in posh clothes but interpreted as about monkeys & race, so rightly deleted."

 

https://news.sky.com/story/danny-baker-sorry-over-stupid-chimp-tweet-about-royal-baby-archie-11715152

 

 

24 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

• Harry says a tweet comparing baby Archie to a chimp was "one of the first things" he saw after the birth in 2019

   Just to keep that in perspective  , it was a post by a BBC presenter humorously suggesting that the Royal family are like a circus and it wasn't done as an act of racism .

   As soon as the presenter realised the racist connection  he deleted the post and apologised and then got sacked .

  Whilst the presenter cannot really have any complaints about getting sacked , I do think that Harry should have accepted the apology and understood the context and that is wasn't deliberately  racist  and that is was a misunderstanding and Harry should have moved on, rather than bringing it back into the spotlight 

 

"Once again. Sincere apologies for the stupid unthinking gag pic earlier. Was supposed to be joke about Royals vs circus animals in posh clothes but interpreted as about monkeys & race, so rightly deleted."

 

https://news.sky.com/story/danny-baker-sorry-over-stupid-chimp-tweet-about-royal-baby-archie-11715152

 

 

So, if racism isn't deliberate, it doesn't count?   Clearly, anybody with half a brain would see a connection between a reference to a monkey in the context of a mixed race person.  It was not humorous.  It was racist.  It was hugely disrespectful, and pretty much any parent would be extremely upset by such a characterization of their firstborn child.  Keep in mind, this was not the first time racist remarks had swirled around Harry's wife, and now it was being leveled at his child.   

 

 

If William screamed I'm sure it was for a good reason. Harry seems oblivious to how he and his wife appear.

I certainly hope the couple are stripped of any royal titles and cast out of the royal family for disloyalty.

4 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

• Harry says a tweet comparing baby Archie to a chimp was "one of the first things" he saw after the birth in 2019

   Just to keep that in perspective  , it was a post by a BBC presenter humorously suggesting that the Royal family are like a circus and it wasn't done as an act of racism .

   As soon as the presenter realised the racist connection  he deleted the post and apologised and then got sacked .

  Whilst the presenter cannot really have any complaints about getting sacked , I do think that Harry should have accepted the apology and understood the context and that is wasn't deliberately  racist  and that is was a misunderstanding and Harry should have moved on, rather than bringing it back into the spotlight 

 

"Once again. Sincere apologies for the stupid unthinking gag pic earlier. Was supposed to be joke about Royals vs circus animals in posh clothes but interpreted as about monkeys & race, so rightly deleted."

 

https://news.sky.com/story/danny-baker-sorry-over-stupid-chimp-tweet-about-royal-baby-archie-11715152

 

 

When your child is subject to racist comments in a very public manner on a social media platform, intended or not, then you can lecture others on how they should react.
 

Even then, those whose newly born child is abused in such a manner are free to ignore you. 

Edited December 15, 20223 yr by Bluespunk
Multiple typos and extra paragraph added

Honestly, who cares really? Does the UK have no other problems these days? 

Until I saw her mother I had no idea that Markel was mixed race.

15 minutes ago, Sydebolle said:

Honestly, who cares really? Does the UK have no other problems these days? 

I agree...I'm over seeing headlines of ginger and the gingers whinger being the world's entitled victims to the point of please tell someone that cares.

As for him being terrified when his brother screamed at him, nonsense, now,  being screamed at by a Regimental Sergeant Major, right in your face would be terrifing, been there, done that.

Is there no end to this manchild's whinging? OOhhhhhhh my brother shouted at me when I was in my mid 30's. And Daddy stopped my pocket money around the same time. How am I going to survive such an ordeal?

 

Grow a pair you snivelling race baiter. 

 

Imagine having to constantly, publicly trash your own family to earn a living. Has he nothing else to offer. What a pathetic specimen.

 

 

Edited December 16, 20223 yr by JonnyF

7 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

• Harry says a tweet comparing baby Archie to a chimp was "one of the first things" he saw after the birth in 2019

   Just to keep that in perspective  , it was a post by a BBC presenter humorously suggesting that the Royal family are like a circus and it wasn't done as an act of racism .

   As soon as the presenter realised the racist connection  he deleted the post and apologised and then got sacked .

  Whilst the presenter cannot really have any complaints about getting sacked , I do think that Harry should have accepted the apology and understood the context and that is wasn't deliberately  racist  and that is was a misunderstanding and Harry should have moved on, rather than bringing it back into the spotlight 

 

"Once again. Sincere apologies for the stupid unthinking gag pic earlier. Was supposed to be joke about Royals vs circus animals in posh clothes but interpreted as about monkeys & race, so rightly deleted."

 

https://news.sky.com/story/danny-baker-sorry-over-stupid-chimp-tweet-about-royal-baby-archie-11715152

 

 

        Of course the cartoon was deeply racist--and not a bit funny.   This is a good example of what H&M were, and are, dealing with.   No wonder they fled.  There are many glaring examples of how Megan was treated in the Press compared to Kate--I think 25 examples or more.  Kate would do one thing--like cradling her baby bump--and it would be praised, while Megan doing the same thing was ridiculed.  Many examples of the relentless and often racist coverage, most of it untrue or distorted.  And, when called out, the response is always similar to yours--well, it 'wasn't done as an act of racism'. 

      Whether intentional or not, there it is--H&M's child depicted as a monkey.   Pity the Palace did as poorly with H&M as they did with Princess Diana, allowing  the death of H&M's reputations by a thousand cuts, many by the Press, many by the Palace, itself.

      

        

Harry is really starting to appear as an unhinged wimp. Who has become completely emasculated and controlled by a power hungry woman. Woe is he. 

He was probably the most loved of the royals by the British public for being a rascal drinking partier.

 

What has happened to him? This is like the ultimate woke nightmare. What an absolute brat.

8 hours ago, Credo said:

So, if racism isn't deliberate, it doesn't count?   Clearly, anybody with half a brain would see a connection between a reference to a monkey in the context of a mixed race person.  It was not humorous.  It was racist.  It was hugely disrespectful, and pretty much any parent would be extremely upset by such a characterization of their firstborn child.  Keep in mind, this was not the first time racist remarks had swirled around Harry's wife, and now it was being leveled at his child.   

 

 

Yes anyone with half a brain would see the connection. But this is Danny Baker we are talking about. Had he seen the connection he would have known that posting it would 100% lead to him losing his job with the BBC. Which it did.

 

So either he knew it had racist connotations, and therefore knew he would be sacked and vilified for it and decided to post it anyway, or he was simply incredibly stupid in not seeing the link. Given this is Danny Baker, I'd go with the second option. As soon as it was pointed out he removed it and apologized unreservedly but clearly it was too late by then.  

 

It was a bad joke, posted without any thought. Given Baker's history with alcohol, I wouldn't be surprised if he was off his head at the time (not that that's an excuse but it is a distinct possibility). But of course, Baker's temporary slip was far too good an opportunity to play the victim for Harry to simply ignore it. He needs material, and Danny Baker stupidly provided it. 

 

Of course, Harry didn't focus on his own slip when he referred to an Asian Army colleague as "My little P**i friend". I wonder how that made his "friend" feel? Not that the private jet taking, gas gussling SUV driving, eco-warrior lecturer cares much about hypocrisy.

Jai yen yen.   Are you poor?  No, a billionaire.   Do you work?  No, I would never be a slave. Can I see your CV?  No.  Why the temper tantrum?     
 

This must be a deflection to avoid real problems.

 

 

Harry really does come across as being, to be charitable, less than intelligent or bright. He talks like a little boy.  Clearly Megs has his nutmegs hidden deep in her purse.  

 

The amazing irony of them complaining about the Royal Family, when that is all they have to show for themselves, is juicy.  They have no discernable personality, no sense of humour, and nothing to offer the world other than tempting stories about that which they claim to loathe, the Royal Family. 

I saw a tweet from Andrew Tate this morning about Megan (and Harry).  He was spot on. "I’m just going to come out and say the truth because everyone else is afraid."

I'm not a regular on Tweeter, but I think if you search that statement it'll take you to his video about Me-gain.

 

My brother screamed at me all the time. We had arguments.  They're always important, because they're meant to open eyes.

39 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Of course, Harry didn't focus on his own slip when he referred to an Asian Army colleague as "My little P**i friend". I wonder how that made his "friend" feel? Not that the private jet taking, gas gussling SUV driving, eco-warrior lecturer cares much about hypocrisy.

You forgot dressing up as Nazi. 

9 hours ago, Credo said:

Keep in mind, this was not the first time racist remarks had swirled around Harry's wife, and now it was being leveled at his child.   

She looks white to me!

4 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

She looks white to me!

For sure, she definitely passes the 'paper bag test'. 

They really need a new narrative. Yes, Megan may have been treated badly by the UK media and indeed The Firm, but they resigned from the job, left the country to start anew.

So get a job that commands some respect, Harry. Volunteering to fight in Ukraine would do it for me 

I gather they do some charity work, good, they should devote themselves to helping others less privileged.  I'm sure they'd get paid enough to enjoy a reasonable lifestyle.

But it's just not cricket to wash one's dirty linen in public, family matters should stay behind closed doors.

Nothing but public scorn, derision and contempt lies on this celebrity, bare your soul path they've chosen to tread 

 

I have a great deal of admiration for Harry and a lot more compassion for Megan, especially after seeing the available series episodes.   I am quite well aware that this is their side of the story.  

 

They were working royals, but the Firm didn't do what it needed to protect one of their 'employees'.  What do you think would happen at any company if an employee was subject to harassment on a regular basis and did nothing?  The palace wields a great deal of power and was in a position to respond and take action against the press.  

 

Harry is an honorable man.  He served his country and his queen.  He is now doing what an honorable man would do, and that's protecting his family.   The world would be a much better place were there more men like Harry.

10 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Yes anyone with half a brain would see the connection. But this is Danny Baker we are talking about. Had he seen the connection he would have known that posting it would 100% lead to him losing his job with the BBC. Which it did.

 

So either he knew it had racist connotations, and therefore knew he would be sacked and vilified for it and decided to post it anyway, or he was simply incredibly stupid in not seeing the link. Given this is Danny Baker, I'd go with the second option. As soon as it was pointed out he removed it and apologized unreservedly but clearly it was too late by then.  

 

It was a bad joke, posted without any thought. Given Baker's history with alcohol, I wouldn't be surprised if he was off his head at the time (not that that's an excuse but it is a distinct possibility). But of course, Baker's temporary slip was far too good an opportunity to play the victim for Harry to simply ignore it. He needs material, and Danny Baker stupidly provided it. 

 

Of course, Harry didn't focus on his own slip when he referred to an Asian Army colleague as "My little P**i friend". I wonder how that made his "friend" feel? Not that the private jet taking, gas gussling SUV driving, eco-warrior lecturer cares much about hypocrisy.

Since the cartoon was published, I'm pretty sure it went through a number of people who would have alerted him to the racist connotation, unless he worked with people who were equally as clueless.   

 

9 hours ago, BritManToo said:

She looks white to me!

I suspect you've been in Asia awhile.  It sort of changes one's ability to identify and place people by skin color.  That said, she does not look Black, IMO, but can you imagine for one second what would have happened if she tried to pass herself off as white?

 

6 hours ago, Credo said:

Since the cartoon was published, I'm pretty sure it went through a number of people who would have alerted him to the racist connotation, unless he worked with people who were equally as clueless.   

 

Perhaps they didn't like him enough to help.

7 hours ago, Credo said:

He is now doing what an honorable man would do, and that's protecting his family. 

He should do so without rubbishing his own family. They are not the royals for him, but his father, brother, uncles, aunts and in laws.

I have lost any respect I once had for him as apparently a good leader in the army.

Somewhere along the way he became a self entitled whining loser, and I have a good idea who did that to him.

21 hours ago, roo860 said:

As for him being terrified when his brother screamed at him, nonsense, now,  being screamed at by a Regimental Sergeant Major, right in your face would be terrifing, been there, done that.

Agree. I had a couple of those incidents, and both completely unjustified, by arrogant <deleted> Sgt Majors.

Considering I was a corporal at the time and they did so in front of junior ranks they were out of order, but sod all that a lowly cpl could do about it. BS like that was why I resigned and the thousands of $ they invested in my training were lost to the military.

 

The problem with the military wasn't the life style ( loved it ) but some of the morons that rose to senior ranks.

I rather like Megan & Harry

 

Do I know or even care if any of it is Gospel truth, NO.

 

It's good entertainment, and as far as I can see it cost's the British taxpayer nothing.

 

I can watch this along with 'The Crown' as perfectly great forms of entertainment.

 

Good Luck to them, makes a change from just sponging off the UK State

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

He should do so without rubbishing his own family. They are not the royals for him, but his father, brother, uncles, aunts and in laws.

I have lost any respect I once had for him as apparently a good leader in the army.

Somewhere along the way he became a self entitled whining loser, and I have a good idea who did that to him.

That's the problem with putting the royals on a pedestal. They are just as mortal as anyone else and subject to the same weaknesses and foibles anyone else. Stop tugging the forelock.

"My brother screamed at me".  Join the club.  This is from an Apache Helicopter Pilot who flew combat missions in Afghanistan.  As they say in my part of the world:  "Come on man, take away his man card".