Bentley driver avoids jail - he's not over the limit, under 20 mg

[webfact]

Daily News Thai Caption: Not over the limit

 

Daily News reported that the tycoon behind the wheel of a Bentley that crashed on the Bangkok expressway injuring many people at the weekend was not over the DUI limit.

 

The media citing one of their sources said he had a reading under 20 mg.

 

Forensics were still studying the speed of the Bentley. The investigation into what happened is still active including toxicology tests.

 

Further news was expected from the met police in due course. 

 

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[blackshadow]

this is amazing......must have paid big big money for results????!!!

[terryq]

Not unexpected.

 

However other revelation from the blood sample is that he is pregnant !

 

 

 

[mikeymike100]

Question is why didn't he have a driver? You don't have to that rich to employ one?

[trainman34014]

Ahem; so was the Red Bull Heir...apparently !

[Geoffggi]

One rule for the rich confirmation ......Sad

[richard_smith237]

14 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said:

Question is why didn't he have a driver? You don't have to that rich to employ one?

[if wealthy] you’d buy a GT-Continental for someone else to drive?

.... Wealthy guys who have Ferarri’s & Lambo’s also drive them themselves.

[OneMoreFarang]

I mentioned that in another thread already.

Sometimes I feel we shouldn't be so hard on the police officers who somehow don't find enough evidence to prosecute rich Thai people.

 

Imagine you are a Thai police officer and you have hope to have this wonderful career in your future. And then you have to investigate the possible crime of a rich guy. Then possibly the question goes through your mind if you will have such a wonderful career if you find evidence or if maybe your career will be a lot better if you somehow don't find such evidence.

[malt25]

3 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I mentioned that in another thread already.

Sometimes I feel we shouldn't be so hard on the police officers who somehow don't find enough evidence to prosecute rich Thai people.

 

Imagine you are a Thai police officer and you have hope to have this wonderful career in your future. And then you have to investigate the possible crime of a rich guy. Then possibly the question goes through your mind if you will have such a wonderful career if you find evidence or if maybe your career will be a lot better if you somehow don't find such evidence.

Oh ! how I'd love to comment on this, unfortunately my Gonads are not of sufficiant size.

 

[phetphet]

Isn't it amazing how many posters on this site foretold this? 

 

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, blackshadow said:

this is amazing......must have paid big big money for results????!!!

Why?  Do you have any information confirming your assertion of his level of intoxication being over the legal limit?

[hotchilli]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

Further news was expected from the met police in due course.

The case has been fully investigated and finances sorted out.. he will walk free.

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, mikeymike100 said:

Question is why didn't he have a driver? You don't have to that rich to employ one?

Two-door coupé Bentleys aren't exactly limos that would normally have a driver.

[hotchilli]

1 hour ago, blackshadow said:

this is amazing......must have paid big big money for results????!!!

Money he can well afford.. 

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, Geoffggi said:

One rule for the rich confirmation ......Sad

What evidence do you have that that is the case here?...Sad.   

[Liverpool Lou]

8 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

The case has been fully investigated and finances sorted out.. he will walk free.

I'm not condoning his driving but why shouldn't he walk free with a few points, a fine and maybe a compensation order?   He wasn't over-the-limit drunk, didn't kill anyone and his charge was only reckless driving causing injury.   Is there a mandatory jail sentence for that traffic offence?

Edited January 11, 2023 by Liverpool Lou

[Photoguy21]

Was his heart condition verified by a doctor or was it just on his word?

[anchadian]

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THE NATION: Police on Wednesday said the blood test conducted on businessman Suthat Siwapiromrat found a level of alcohol in his blood lower than the illegal amount. However, the test was conducted more than three hours after the crash

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/thailand/general/40023905

Edited January 11, 2023 by anchadian

[KannikaP]

1 hour ago, mikeymike100 said:

Question is why didn't he have a driver? You don't have to that rich to employ one?

No, they say that if you have a Roller you get a driver, if a Bentley, you drive it yourself.

[metisdead]

Posts trolling about "Thaivisa members" have been removed.  

 

A post with an oversized trolling meme has been removed.

Edited January 11, 2023 by metisdead

[khunPer]

The blood test might have be taken late enough to get rid of anything over the limit...

[Mansell]

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Two-door coupé Bentleys aren't exactly limos that would normally have a driver.

I used to be a driver for a two door Aston Martin DB6 Mk II. The owner sat next to me as he liked been driven very fast…..90mph country roads in England. And if in a hurry 120mph on the motorway. This was in the early 1970’s, I was back in England in early 80’s and those speeds were no longer possible on the country roads because of a huge increase in the amount of vehicles on the road. Some might consider what I did dangerous driving, but I was very good, and the car was superb as a handmade car should be. In two years I only got stopped twice by the police. The first guy let me go as I was driving alone and he assumed I owned the car. The second doing 80mph on the motorway when I had the flu and got a ticket. I used to pick up the odd hitchhiker when I was alone. I’d put my hand over the speedometer and ask them what speed we were doing? They would respond 60mph, and then I’d show them it was 90mph. The car was so stable with SelectaRide, among other goodies. One day wandering around at the Newport Pagnell factory I noticed a convertible Aston off in a corner, and asked what the story was? It’s Prince Charles’s car….we just dump it in the corner for a few months before we bother to touch it.

He still has that same car fifty years later. He let William drive it after his wedding with his wife, but he forgot to release the handbrake for his drive from the Cathedral…..back to the factory!

[newnative]

Total a-hole whether drunk or not.

[richard_smith237]

2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Why?  Do you have any information confirming your assertion of his level of intoxication being over the legal limit?

Its a forum designed for discussion... We can speculate...  You seem to think you are taking part in a legal discussion and we can only discuss undeniable proven fact... 

 

...  Not being lawyers and not being held to account for our comments we have the freedom to discuss the probable.... 

 

In this case - given the environment we face ourselves in; from extremely common DUI, to the obviously lack of regard for law shown by the wealthy, to the ease with which they are not held accountable to the laws and to the utter ineffectiveness of law enforcement in Thailand we can all very easily draw the ‘assumption’ that this guy was ‘quite pished up and used his influence to circumnavigate formalities to avoid further legal action’....  its par for the course here. 

[richard_smith237]

48 minutes ago, phetphet said:

He probably wasn't by the time they managed to test him. Which was almost five hours after the crash,

as he refused to take a roadside breath test.

 

While the accident occurred at 12.35 am on Sunday it wasn't until 5 am before the Bentley driver was tested.

 

He had a reading of under 20mgs five hours after the crash. The body metabolises alcohol at around 15-20 mgs/hour.

So add maybe 75-100mgs ( lets  do him a favour and call it  60mgs) to his 20mgs result, and that puts it  at around 80mgs.

 

The limit in Thailand is I believe 50mgs.

 

As you say. He might not have been over the limit.

Agreed...  Basic BAC calculators show that to have had a BAC of 20mg/100ml (i.e. 0.02%) after 5 hours he needs to have had 8 standard shots of spirits - which at the time would have placed him at 100mg/100ml (0.01%) 5 hrs earlier - Double the legal limit to drive. 

 

https://www.drinkdriving.org/bac-calculator.php

[richard_smith237]

2 hours ago, Photoguy21 said:

Was his heart condition verified by a doctor or was it just on his word?

I don’t think he claimed a heart condition... didn’t he claim 'chest pains'... (could have been from the seatbelt or air-bag).

[champers]

55 minutes ago, Mansell said:

I used to be a driver for a two door Aston Martin DB6 Mk II. The owner sat next to me as he liked been driven very fast…..90mph country roads in England. And if in a hurry 120mph on the motorway. This was in the early 1970’s, I was back in England in early 80’s and those speeds were no longer possible on the country roads because of a huge increase in the amount of vehicles on the road. Some might consider what I did dangerous driving, but I was very good, and the car was superb as a handmade car should be. In two years I only got stopped twice by the police. The first guy let me go as I was driving alone and he assumed I owned the car. The second doing 80mph on the motorway when I had the flu and got a ticket. I used to pick up the odd hitchhiker when I was alone. I’d put my hand over the speedometer and ask them what speed we were doing? They would respond 60mph, and then I’d show them it was 90mph. The car was so stable with SelectaRide, among other goodies. One day wandering around at the Newport Pagnell factory I noticed a convertible Aston off in a corner, and asked what the story was? It’s Prince Charles’s car….we just dump it in the corner for a few months before we bother to touch it.

He still has that same car fifty years later. He let William drive it after his wedding with his wife, but he forgot to release the handbrake for his drive from the Cathedral…..back to the factory!

Nigel?

[richard_smith237]

2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

I'm not condoning his driving but why shouldn't he walk free with a few points, a fine and maybe a compensation order?   He wasn't over-the-limit drunk, didn't kill anyone and his charge was only reckless driving causing injury.   Is there a mandatory jail sentence for that traffic offence?

He wasn’t over the drink driving limit by the time he was tested. 

 

Its obvious to any of us that the BAC 5 hours later is a lot less than it would have been at the time of the accident. The report also states less than 20mg, but doesn't state exactly what his BAC was. 

 

It could be argued by an expert witness (i.e. a Doctor) that his BAC 5 hours after the accident proves he was DUI.

 

You seem to want absolute black and white proof in a grey world and approach these discussions with such a mindset. He wasn’t tested for alcohol shortly after the accident, in many countries that may not be sufficient proof to highlight he was under the legal DUI limit. 

 

In Thailand this may not be investigated, particularly so for someone of wealth and influence.... 

Your comments seem to defend this ideology not matter what. 

 

 

 

 

 

[brianthainess]

So now this is how to avoid a breath test, " I have chest pain" A blood test could have been done immediately he got to hospital, It is obvious to all and sundry that he was over the limit. Anyone watching the vid would tell you that. So what charges will be laid on him ?

[Purdey]

Don't know if he was drink or just not a competent driver. Perhaps more money than ability.