Donald Trump derided electric vehicles as inefficient and “ridiculous” during a stump speech as South Carolina’s Governor Henry McMaster, a proponent of EVs, stood behind him. The Republican governor invited the former president to the state capitol for an event introducing the Trump campaign’s South Carolina leadership team on Saturday. This was Trump’s second campaign event of the day, following an afternoon speech in New Hampshire.

 

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-trashes-electric-vehicles-mcmaster-1234670312/

It's quite curious. On one hand Trump fawns over Elon Musk and then trashes electric vehicles. It begs the question of whether he even comprehends that Tesla's are electric. Maybe he's just senile. After all, he did recently confuse a woman who claim he raped her with his ex wife.

52 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

It's quite curious. On one hand Trump fawns over Elon Musk and then trashes electric vehicles. It begs the question of whether he even comprehends that Tesla's are electric. Maybe he's just senile. After all, he did recently confuse a woman who claim he raped her with his ex wife.

I suspect he "fawns" over Musk because he's rich. Trump likes rich people, being one himself.

However, electric vehicles are a separate subject. IMO they are a dead end, like Beta VDO recorders were. Hydrogen is the way to go IMO, and if not for spending most of the research money on EVs we'd likely be converting our existing cars to hydrogen power already.

It's a proven technology, and doesn't rely on scarce raw materials or rare earth.

Trump is on a downward spiral.

3 hours ago, ozimoron said:

It's quite curious.

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Not curious at all.  The fossil fuel industry is not going to sit on it's thumbs while the world shoves it to the wayside.  Paying off politicians in post-Reagan America is the way things work now (it was illegal before then, it was called graft, now it is legal and called "political action committee donations").  DT is just another pocket-stuffing bootlick to Big Industry, like all the other PAC-fed members (or wannabe members) of the gov't.  But on a dollar-per-vote value, DT is the top of the food chain, with so much support by the great unwashed who value his every word.  So powerful that the pols in his party are gutless when it comes to standing up to him.

Now what is curious, IMO, is the way US national news never mentions the vandalism being done to EVs.  Here's a taste, a web search will give you more.

https://www.osvehicle.com/why-are-electric-cars-being-vandalized-more-and-more/

Ford has developed an electric pickup truck that is virtually a power station on wheels, and is so kick-*ss that the thing is massively back-ordered. 

https://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/f150-lightning/2022/

I would not doubt that petro-biz is at this very moment hard at work trying to kill the product in its crib.  I'm sure Fox Talk Channel does not want to lose Ford as a sponsor, let's see how they play through this.

 

 

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I suspect he "fawns" over Musk because he's rich. Trump likes rich people, being one himself.

However, electric vehicles are a separate subject. IMO they are a dead end, like Beta VDO recorders were. Hydrogen is the way to go IMO, and if not for spending most of the research money on EVs we'd likely be converting our existing cars to hydrogen power already.

It's a proven technology, and doesn't rely on scarce raw materials or rare earth.

Donald isn’t rich,#1 Donald is a trust fund baby he’s squandered most of what he got from dada now he has so much debt the banks can’t afford to call in their debt as far as dissing EVs he’s pandering for votes and sucking up to the fossil fuel industry no more than that

8 hours ago, Scott said:

 

Donald Trump during a stump speech

a stump is as a stump does

8 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I suspect he "fawns" over Musk because he's rich. Trump likes rich people, being one himself.

However, electric vehicles are a separate subject. IMO they are a dead end, like Beta VDO recorders were. Hydrogen is the way to go IMO, and if not for spending most of the research money on EVs we'd likely be converting our existing cars to hydrogen power already.

It's a proven technology, and doesn't rely on scarce raw materials or rare earth.

Does he fawn over George Soros, too?

In a strange way I want trump to get the nomination as he has proven he is a loser.

 

If he does not get the nomination then look for a 3rd party MAGA run (assuming his incompetent crew can file the paperwork)....which would split the vote and also insure a dem win.  Of course T then can raise millions more from his delusional MAGA base and claim that he and he alone brought down the republican party.  That would be the best case scenario for trump...he can sit in mar largo with millions of MAGA dollars to pxss away as he pleases all the while whining about how unfair it all has been and how great the world would be if only they would listen to the Biggest Loser.

 

He is not now and never has been nor never will be a gracious loser or even admit when he loses.  That will not change.  The odds of him yielding to a Desantis type are slim to none.  He will burn it all down before he supports anyone but himself.

 

Repubs best chance is for him to be in jail.  If they have half a brain they will be cheering for an indictment and felony convictions.

 

 

 

Let's see what Musk does when Trump starts trashing EVs on Twitter. 

Come on Trump, show them how you feel about EV by getting a diesel golf cart. 

"Let's see what Musk does when Trump starts trashing EVs on Twitter."

 

>Elon Musk predicts a crewed mission to Mars in 2029.<

 

Musk is going to offer Donald free trip to Mars ????

 

I recall that Musk has endorsed DeSantis so expected that Trump would diss EVs. To trump's regressive base EVs are a wimpy soy boy thing. Vroom vroom!

Edited January 30, 20233 yr by Jingthing

8 minutes ago, GypsyT said:

"Let's see what Musk does when Trump starts trashing EVs on Twitter."

 

>Elon Musk predicts a crewed mission to Mars in 2029.<

 

Musk is going to offer Donald free trip to Mars ????

 

One way?

10 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Trump is on a downward spiral.

Maybe you should buy a electric car and see how good it feels pushing it home.

2 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

Maybe you should buy a electric car and see how good it feels pushing it home.

I don’t want any car thank you very much.

7 hours ago, bendejo said:

Not curious at all.  The fossil fuel industry is not going to sit on it's thumbs while the world shoves it to the wayside.  Paying off politicians in post-Reagan America is the way things work now (it was illegal before then, it was called graft, now it is legal and called "political action committee donations").  DT is just another pocket-stuffing bootlick to Big Industry, like all the other PAC-fed members (or wannabe members) of the gov't.  But on a dollar-per-vote value, DT is the top of the food chain, with so much support by the great unwashed who value his every word.  So powerful that the pols in his party are gutless when it comes to standing up to him.

Now what is curious, IMO, is the way US national news never mentions the vandalism being done to EVs.  Here's a taste, a web search will give you more.

https://www.osvehicle.com/why-are-electric-cars-being-vandalized-more-and-more/

Ford has developed an electric pickup truck that is virtually a power station on wheels, and is so kick-*ss that the thing is massively back-ordered. 

https://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/f150-lightning/2022/

I would not doubt that petro-biz is at this very moment hard at work trying to kill the product in its crib.  I'm sure Fox Talk Channel does not want to lose Ford as a sponsor, let's see how they play through this.

 

 

The F-150 Lightning is great, as long as you don't want to use it as a pick up truck.  As soon as you carry something, tow something, it becomes an expensive paperweight. Towing a relatively light trailer dropped the range to 100 miles (with the big battery).   In cold climates, the battery's performance is even worse.  If you use it as a penile extension to go to the golf club or to Walmart, it's a great vehicle. If you want a truck, look elsewhere.

21 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

Maybe you should buy a electric car and see how good it feels pushing it home.

I guess you believe sales of EVS are skyrocketing because people need the exercise.

20 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

Maybe you should buy a electric car and see how good it feels pushing it home.

Why would he need to push it home? Is this a common issue for EV owners or is it just a thing in the MAGAsphere?

25 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

Maybe you should buy a electric car and see how good it feels pushing it home.

I've had to push many a car in my day. Are EVs different? Their engines and drive train are actually more reliable.

19 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Why would he need to push it home? Is this a common issue for EV owners or is it just a thing in the MAGAsphere?

I'm not sure what the subtext is here, but a very real issue has been that certain EV companies would exaggerate their numbers (like 'miles per charge') and buyers getting stranded when the juice runs out far below estimate.  At this point, I still think of EVs as second cars, and one thing to consider if buying one is arranging for someone you can count on to pick you up when it goes bad.  Maybe things have been improving.

 

 

 

EV just like most every other vehicle from cars to planes to motocycless to bikes to tanks to ships continue to improve with new technology....the first gas cars are a far cry from what they have evolved to....EV and others that use something other than dead plants to propel them will also evolve and in the future people will look back and say how primitive that we burned dead plants to power our transport.

13 minutes ago, bendejo said:

I'm not sure what the subtext is here, but a very real issue has been that certain EV companies would exaggerate their numbers (like 'miles per charge') and buyers getting stranded when the juice runs out far below estimate.  At this point, I still think of EVs as second cars, and one thing to consider if buying one is arranging for someone you can count on to pick you up when it goes bad.  Maybe things have been improving.

 

 

 

Things have been improving. A quick Google search shows that EV ownership is highest in Norway at over 21%. That country is large but with a small population so it's not like if e.g. Luxemburg had been used as an example (tiny country, high population density) - Norwegians obviously have to do a lot of driving. And, equally obviously, if they all had to have a stand-by driver ready the ownership would never have reached such numbers.

 

Electric car use by country

Edited January 30, 20233 yr by Phoenix Rising

Great speech and kick off to his campaign in SC with Trump being endorsed by Mcmaster  . Mc even made a speech  and giggled when Mr. Trump teased  about EV.

The rino Lynsey Graham was even there . Im guessing Mc already knew Trumps position on EV .His  EV views have been around for sometime! 
Mc is promoting business while securing jobs in all kinds of industries including electric!
 

SC is the largest exporter of all kinds of vehicles  combined ! You won’t see SC banning new sales of gasoline powered vehicles , or  making mandates like some dem run states.

https://www.worldstopexports.com/south-carolinas-top-10-exports

Edited January 30, 20233 yr by riclag

9 minutes ago, riclag said:

Great speech and kick off to his campaign in SC with Trump being endorsed by Mcmaster  . Mc even made a speech  and giggled when Mr. Trump teased  about EV.

Oh, he giggled?! Well, that's OK then!

 

BTW, really happy to see trump ramping up his campaign. Having him as the GOP candidate is the surest way to another Dem victory and yet another defeat for trump and the MAGA loonies.

39 minutes ago, bendejo said:

I'm not sure what the subtext is here, but a very real issue has been that certain EV companies would exaggerate their numbers (like 'miles per charge') and buyers getting stranded when the juice runs out far below estimate.  At this point, I still think of EVs as second cars, and one thing to consider if buying one is arranging for someone you can count on to pick you up when it goes bad.  Maybe things have been improving.

It was mainly Musk exaggerating the range of his cars. Who would have thought?

 

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/tesla-fined-2-2m-exaggerating-driving-range-vehicles-report

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

I guess you believe sales of EVS are skyrocketing because people need the exercise.

I would imagine states like texas would have difficulty selling evs because of the uncertainty of the electric grid being down when cold weather arrives. As for Mr spur heels this man we must admire he would never push cr*p 

1 hour ago, ozimoron said:

I've had to push many a car in my day. Are EVs different? Their engines and drive train are actually more reliable.

Yes but you only had to push it to the nearest service station not all the way home.

Just now, vandeventer said:

Yes but you only had to push it to the nearest service station not all the way home.

You only have to push an EV to the next charging station which will soon be the next service station. It won't be long before automobile associations have this covered as well. Meantime, many electric cars have longer ranges than petrol cars.

11 hours ago, placeholder said:

Does he fawn over George Soros, too?

No, he hates Soros, like he hates all decent people with a moral codex and a smidgen of love in their lives. Trump thrives on hate.

 

So he doesn't fawn over ALL rich people ... but ONLY rich people. Oh yeah, and powerful and cruel warmongering dictators. Like Little Rocket Man.

 

His distinguishing characteristic is that of a rank coward.