The US House ethics panel has extended its investigation into congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez over allegations that she may have violated congressional rules.

A nonpartisan watchdog review found "substantial reason to believe that she accepted impermissible gifts" related to a fashion event.

The probe centres on the payments for the dress she rented to attend the prestigious Met Gala in 2021.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64837119

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Obviously the message on that dress caused some deeply disturbing offense.

 

 

Aoc the waitress that brings nothing to the table. Maybe she can return the gifts without the shame?

50 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

Aoc the waitress that brings nothing to the table. Maybe she can return the gifts without the shame?

AOC previously worked as a waitress, something millions of ordinary Americans have themselves done and recognize as an honest way to earn a living.

 

AOC brings a great deal to the table, which,  in addition to being an outspoken woman, is why so many on the right wing hate her.

1 hour ago, vandeventer said:

Aoc the waitress that brings nothing to the table. Maybe she can return the gifts without the shame?

Shame on her for not have the drive and grit to get herself born into a super wealthy family!

What makes a middle class person think she even has the right to run for office?

2 hours ago, vandeventer said:

Aoc the waitress that brings nothing to the table. Maybe she can return the gifts without the shame?

Oh I don’t know about that she definitely has the pulse of the working classes needs frustrations trials ect she knows what it’s like to struggle no sir you are dead wrong she’s intelligent attractive outspoken and really pisses off the maga types just my kinda gal!I think her (sin) this time is she angered the wealthy doners get after it AOC you lovely outspoken champion for the working class!

1 hour ago, Tug said:

Oh I don’t know about that she definitely has the pulse of the working classes needs frustrations trials ect she knows what it’s like to struggle no sir you are dead wrong she’s intelligent attractive outspoken and really pisses off the maga types just my kinda gal!I think her (sin) this time is she angered the wealthy doners get after it AOC you lovely outspoken champion for the working class!

Make up your own mine, think what you want to think.

https://mashable.com/article/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-house-tweet

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

AOC previously worked as a waitress, something millions of ordinary Americans have themselves done and recognize as an honest way to earn a living.

 

AOC brings a great deal to the table, which,  in addition to being an outspoken woman, is why so many on the right wing hate her.

Maybe she should run for President in 2024 as your party has no one else?

2 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

Maybe she should run for President in 2024 as your party has no one else?

I would love to see AOC run for president but she is too young as yet. The republicans are afraid of that prospect. Really afraid. That's why they hate her so much. The race thing is just a bonus for them. Meanwhile, the dems have many potential candidates, the current dem house leader in particular.

7 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

Maybe she should run for President in 2024 as your party has no one else?

It would be excellent to see her as president. However the US is too conservative to elect someone who really stands for her electorate.

5 hours ago, vandeventer said:

Aoc the waitress that brings nothing to the table. Maybe she can return the gifts without the shame?

A majority of her constituency in NY , Dem states and the Democratic Socialist party adore her !  Theres a lot to be said about her and her spokesperson after the fact comments in the BBC.

“Ms Ocasio-Cortez's counsel David Mitrani has said the congresswoman "finds these delays (in payment) unacceptable, and she has taken several steps to ensure nothing of this nature will ever happen again."

"However, while regrettable, this matter definitively does not rise to the level of a violation of House Rules or of federal law," he added.

https://www.businessinsider.com/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-explains-what-democratic-socialism-means-2019-3

 

 

40 minutes ago, riclag said:

A majority of her constituency in NY , Dem states and the Democratic Socialist party adore her !  Theres a lot to be said about her and her spokesperson after the fact comments in the BBC.

“Ms Ocasio-Cortez's counsel David Mitrani has said the congresswoman "finds these delays (in payment) unacceptable, and she has taken several steps to ensure nothing of this nature will ever happen again."

"However, while regrettable, this matter definitively does not rise to the level of a violation of House Rules or of federal law," he added.

https://www.businessinsider.com/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-explains-what-democratic-socialism-means-2019-3

 

 

There's no such party as the Democratic Socialist Party any more than there's a Republican Whack Job Party.

5 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

AOC previously worked as a waitress, something millions of ordinary Americans have themselves done and recognize as an honest way to earn a living.

 

AOC brings a great deal to the table, which,  in addition to being an outspoken woman, is why so many on the right wing hate her.

Nobody hates her, they just laugh at her hysterical nonsense and socialist rants. She wants DC to be a state, but did not even know the constitution would have to be changed and there is zero chance of that happening. She gives morons something to look down on.

She's a nothing burger but the lines that draw her district in NY speak for why she is popular there.  The picture for this thread is extremely rare because her mouth is shut. She also thinks she can change Japan! 

Edited March 5, 20233 yr by alex8912

2 hours ago, proton said:

Nobody hates her, they just laugh at her hysterical nonsense and socialist rants. She wants DC to be a state, but did not even know the constitution would have to be changed and there is zero chance of that happening. She gives morons something to look down on.

I have just discovered that the state of Wyoming has a population of just over 500,000, and has one Congressman and two Senators. I use Wyoming purely as an example, I have nothing against the place in itself.

 

Washington DC, with a population of 700,000 has one Congressman (with no voting rights) and no Senators.

 

If the Constitution of the United States needs to be changed, to give the population of Washington DC the same representation as anywhere else (so 2 Congressmen and 2 Senators?) then changing it seems quite reasonable, and really hard to argue against if you believe that the United States is a democracy, or even, as I have been told on this forum before, not a democracy but a "Representative Republic". Either way, having the same level of representation as anywhere else seems a fair idea, and neither hysterical nonsense or a particularly socialist rant.

 

Anyway, I am sure that the opposition to the idea is based on sound constitutional grounds, and has nothing to do with the worry that many of the potential voters are black, and giving them appropriate representation would upset the current carefully gerrymandered balance of power in Congress! A most unworthy thought of which I should be thoroughly ashamed...

Edited March 5, 20233 yr by herfiehandbag

That screeching sound you can hear is the bottom of the barrel being scraped...

14 minutes ago, alex8912 said:

She's a nothing burger but the lines that draw her district in NY speak for why she is popular there.  The picture for this thread is extremely rare because her mouth is shut. She also thinks she can change Japan! 

She’s a force to be reckoned with ,

same as any powerful politician is !

She is affiliated with the democratic socialists of america.

Never think she is a nothing burger! Imop

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandria_Ocasio-Cortez#:~:text=She was previously an activist,elected to serve in Congress.

9 hours ago, vandeventer said:

Aoc the waitress that brings nothing to the table. Maybe she can return the gifts without the shame?

She brought an actual functioning brain to the table which is enthusiastically discouraged on one side of the aisle.

8 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

That screeching sound you can hear is the bottom of the barrel being scraped...

Can't hear anything my end...............????

19 minutes ago, riclag said:

She’s a force to be reckoned with ,

same as any powerful politician is !

She is affiliated with the democratic socialists of america.

Never think she is a nothing burger! Imop

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandria_Ocasio-Cortez#:~:text=She was previously an activist,elected to serve in Congress.

 

19 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

She brought an actual functioning brain to the table which is enthusiastically discouraged on one side of the aisle.

I have over the last years, especially now I am retired and have time to indulge myself, developed an interest in and followed American national politics. Partly because at times it has all the allure of a slow motion train crash (I initially started by looking every day to see what President Trumps latest amazing claim or astonishing antic was) and it rather grew from there.

 

 

 

I am used to hypocrisy and double standards on both sides of the political spectrum in my native UK, but the USA is simply astonishing in that respect.

 

 

 

Anyway - because of that interest I have recently listened to interviews with both Miss Occasio Cortez and Mr Bernie Saunders - who both are described - accused - and identify as socialists. Now in UK terms I consider myself as a liberal conservative, both these individuals struck me as having views and putting forward proposals which were perfectly reasonable - especially in the fields of social policy and health care. 

2 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

 

I have over the last years, especially now I am retired and have time to indulge myself, developed an interest in and followed American national politics. Partly because at times it has all the allure of a slow motion train crash (I initially started by looking every day to see what President Trumps latest amazing claim or astonishing antic was) and it rather grew from there.

 

 

 

I am used to hypocrisy and double standards on both sides of the political spectrum in my native UK, but the USA is simply astonishing in that respect.

 

 

 

Anyway - because of that interest I have recently listened to interviews with both Miss Occasio Cortez and Mr Bernie Saunders - who both are described - accused - and identify as socialists. Now in UK terms I consider myself as a liberal conservative, both these individuals struck me as having views and putting forward proposals which were perfectly reasonable - especially in the fields of social policy and health care. 

liberal and conservative are terms used to describe opposite ends of the political spectrum. Maybe you describe yourself as centrist?

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

liberal and conservative are terms used to describe opposite ends of the political spectrum. Maybe you describe yourself as centrist?

Maybe in the USA. In the UK it is a long established political position, going back over a century and a half. Disraeli, Churchill ( he took it to the extent of sitting for both the Liberal and Conservative parties during his parliamentary career), Douglas-Hume, Anthony Eden, David Cameron and (dare I say it) Boris Johnson!

3 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

Maybe in the USA. In the UK it is a long established political position, going back over a century and a half. Disraeli, Churchill ( he took it to the extent of sitting for both the Liberal and Conservative parties during his parliamentary career), Douglas-Hume, Anthony Eden, David Cameron and (dare I say it) Boris Johnson!

You're confusing liberal and Liberal.

3 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

You're confusing liberal and Liberal.

I think not. I am referring to the UK political scene, and am very careful to use lower and upper case "l" as appropriate; liberal is a position held in conservative ( again lower case) views, Liberal refers to a long standing political party, often to the left of the Tories (Conservative Party). It gradually lost ground to the Labour party throughout the last century and merged with the Social Democrat Party ( itself a splinter of Labour) in the 1980s. Since then, whilst perhaps "centrist" cynics would say it is neither liberal not democratic!

29 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

 

I have over the last years, especially now I am retired and have time to indulge myself, developed an interest in and followed American national politics. Partly because at times it has all the allure of a slow motion train crash (I initially started by looking every day to see what President Trumps latest amazing claim or astonishing antic was) and it rather grew from there.

 

 

 

I am used to hypocrisy and double standards on both sides of the political spectrum in my native UK, but the USA is simply astonishing in that respect.

 

 

 

Anyway - because of that interest I have recently listened to interviews with both Miss Occasio Cortez and Mr Bernie Saunders - who both are described - accused - and identify as socialists. Now in UK terms I consider myself as a liberal conservative, both these individuals struck me as having views and putting forward proposals which were perfectly reasonable - especially in the fields of social policy and health care. 

Exactly. What the US calls socialist policies have long been accepted by conservatives in the rest of the world.

I just wish the US Politicians would spend as much time and energy running the country as they do running down each other!

6 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

I think not. I am referring to the UK political scene, and am very careful to use lower and upper case "l" as appropriate; liberal is a position held in conservative ( again lower case) views, Liberal refers to a long standing political party, often to the left of the Tories (Conservative Party). It gradually lost ground to the Labour party throughout the last century and merged with the Social Democrat Party ( itself a splinter of Labour) in the 1980s. Since then, whilst perhaps "centrist" cynics would say it is neither liberal not democratic!

https://www.diffen.com/difference/Conservative_vs_Liberal

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

https://www.diffen.com/difference/Conservative_vs_Liberal

A website which refers exclusively to be and defines according to the US political circumstances. It also makes the point that the terms are used differently in other countries and times.

1 minute ago, herfiehandbag said:

A website which refers exclusively to be and defines according to the US political circumstances. It also makes the point that the terms are used differently in other countries and times.

True, but this is a thread about US politics.