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I am a US citizen and can enter Thailand with a 30 day Visa exempt stamp. 
I want to travel to Singapore for 3 or 4 days while in Thailand.  Do I need to apply for a re-entry permit?  I do not plan to stay in Thailand  more than 30 days, so I it is not important to get new 30 day visa exempt stamp.  I just want to make sure that I can re-enter Thailand without the re-entry permit.  

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A question please

 

How many times have you been to Thailand (on a 30 day visa exempt) in lets say the last 1-2 years.

 

If only a Few 30 day visa exempt then no issue getting a new one on arrival back into Thailand.

 

Just to be certain (on returning from Singapore) make sure have a copy of your flight OUT with you so that you can show the IO at the airport that you will not stay long.

 

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A re-entry permit would be required to maintain the validity of an actual visa or extension of stay.  A visa exempt is not a visa.  If you exit the country before the end of the visa exempt period then it is done. 

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DrJack54 Star Member

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57 minutes ago, Yahtzee said:

 I just want to make sure that I can re-enter Thailand without the re-entry permit

Yes.

When you exit Thailand your 30 day stamp is done..

You can then reenter Thailand with and be issued a other 30 day visa exempt stamp.

 

Be aware that flying visa exempt the airline at departure for flight to thailand may/will require an onward flight within 30 days.

Check out "onwardticket.com for companies that can cover that with "rent a flight" 

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1293995-proof-of-onward-travel/

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28 minutes ago, Yahtzee said:

want to travel to Singapore for 3 or 4 days while in Thailand.  Do I need to apply for a re-entry permit?

To preserve you "Permission to Stay" date you need a re-netry permit but why bother? You can enter Thailand again visa exempt and get a new Permission to Stay date. 

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7 hours ago, CartagenaWarlock said:

To preserve you "Permission to Stay" date you need a re-netry permit but why bother? 

Actually, I don't believe a re-entry permit will preserve in any manner a 30-day exempt stamp. The 30-day exempt stamp will expire when OP leaves the country and OP will get a new 30-day stamp upon re-entry into the country (presuming he doesn't have some unusual history in Thailand).  That's all that's needed for the OP's stated plans. And it costs nothing.

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5 minutes ago, CMBob said:

Actually, I don't believe a re-entry permit will preserve in any manner a 30-day exempt stamp. The 30-day exempt stamp will expire when OP leaves the country and OP will get a new 30-day stamp upon re-entry into the country (presuming he doesn't have some unusual history in Thailand).  That's all that's needed for the OP's stated plans. And it costs nothing.

A reentry permit would protect his 30 day stamp (permission of stay)

 

As has been pointed out already he can just exit and reenter visa exempt.

 

 

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1 hour ago, CMBob said:

Actually, I don't believe a re-entry permit will preserve in any manner a 30-day exempt stamp. The 30-day exempt stamp will expire when OP leaves the country and OP will get a new 30-day stamp upon re-entry into the country (presuming he doesn't have some unusual history in Thailand).  That's all that's needed for the OP's stated plans. And it costs nothing.

A re-entry permit can be used to protect any permission to stay. While uncommon, this includes a visa exempt entry and, on rare occasions, may make sense. Consider that you are only allowed two land-based visa exemptions per calendar year, and you want to make a quick trip over the border, coming back nearly immediately. If you have already used your two via land for the current year, without a re-entry permit you could not cross. Even if you would still be eligible for a new visa exemption, you might choose to avoid using one of the precious land-based exemptions in case you need it later.

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Pattaya57 Gold Member

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I've never heard anything as ridiculous as getting a re-entry permit for a visa exempt entry. 

 

(a) what's the point as you get a new visa exempt entry when you return anyway, so why pay 1000 baht to limit duration of your next stay

 

(b) a re-entry permit is for a visa or the extension of stay for that visa. Entering visa exempt obviously means you don't have a visa to link a re-entry permit to

 

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10 minutes ago, Pattaya57 said:

(b) a re-entry permit is for a visa or the extension of stay for that visa. Entering visa exempt obviously means you don't have a visa to link a re-entry permit to

That is the biggest misunderstanding people have about re-entry permits. The re-entry permit protects the existing permission to stay. It does not matter how you reached that permission to stay. A re-entry permit to protect a permission to stay from a visa exemption is rare, but can be logical. See my earlier post.

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32 minutes ago, BritTim said:

That is the biggest misunderstanding people have about re-entry permits. The re-entry permit protects the existing permission to stay. It does not matter how you reached that permission to stay. A re-entry permit to protect a permission to stay from a visa exemption is rare, but can be logical. See my earlier post.

Do you have a  regulation/source for that statement? I've looked at several agent sites and they specifically say they cannot get you a re-entry permit for a visa exempt entry. 

 

I'll not put up agent links but here is a visa guide page saying the same thing 

 

https://visaguide.world/asia/thailand-visa/re-entry-permit/

 

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4 hours ago, CMBob said:

Actually, I don't believe a re-entry permit will preserve in any manner a 30-day exempt stamp.

A reentry permit will preserve the "Permission to Stay" date. I have used it for tourist visa but never for exempt but technically I don't see why not. But there is no need as I mentioned earlier. You can get another exempt entry with a new Permission to Stay" date beyond your current one. 

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Reentry Permits have an end date.  My reentry permit end date is the same date when my current visa expires.  So the end date of a reentry permit based upon a 30 Day Visa Exempt would be the same date. 

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3 hours ago, CartagenaWarlock said:

A reentry permit will preserve the "Permission to Stay" date. I have used it for tourist visa but never for exempt but technically I don't see why not

Why not would be because a visa exempt entry is not eligible for a re-entry permit (as I linked in previous post)

 

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