Social Media Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 PHILADELPHIA (AP) — President Joe Biden delivered an unapologetically economic populist message Saturday during the first rally of his reelection campaign, telling an exuberant crowd of union members that his policies had created jobs and lifted the middle class. Now, he said, is the time for the wealthy to “pay their fair share” in taxes. Biden spotlighted the sweeping climate, tax and health care package signed into law last year that cut the cost of prescription drugs and lowered insurance premiums — pocketbook issues that advisers say will be the centerpiece of his argument for a second term. “I’m looking forward to this campaign,” Biden said to cries of “four more years!” before adding, “We’ve got a record to run on.” 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Biden knows all the good riffs! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 300sd Posted June 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2023 6 hours ago, Social Media said: We’ve got a record to run on.” That's for sure. He wants to complete the destruction. Rest in peace! 2 1 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted June 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2023 2 hours ago, 300sd said: That's for sure. He wants to complete the destruction. Rest in peace! How so?guess fixing infrastructure is terrible?lowering drug prices for seniors terrible?jump starting domestically produced computer chips horrible?buy American made in America terrible?I could go on and on but I have things to do…….. 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 300sd Posted June 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2023 4 hours ago, Tug said: How so?guess fixing infrastructure is terrible?lowering drug prices for seniors terrible?jump starting domestically produced computer chips horrible?buy American made in America terrible?I could go on and on but I have things to do…….. Hmm. How so? Record high inflation, proxy war with Russia, loss of energy independence, looming recession, reckless spending, woke agenda, violent crimes on the rise, polarized nation (bring America together huh!), Oh, open borders! I could go on but I'm sure most get the idea. 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozimoron Posted June 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2023 (edited) 32 minutes ago, 300sd said: Hmm. How so? Record high inflation, proxy war with Russia, loss of energy independence, looming recession, reckless spending, woke agenda, violent crimes on the rise, polarized nation (bring America together huh!), Oh, open borders! I could go on but I'm sure most get the idea. There isn't record high inflation, the US has done better than most peer countries, if not all. Proxy war with Russia had nothing to do with Biden. The topic of U.S. energy independence often sparks debate, with many believing that the country achieved this status under President Trump and lost it during President Biden's tenure. I don’t find this definition very useful, because we began importing crude oil before 1950, and we have imported it every year since. Under this definition, the U.S. hasn’t been energy independent in at least 75 years. https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2023/05/02/us-energy-independence-soars-to-highest-levels-in-over-70-years/?sh=3ab23b1f977f 2.3 Trillion giveaway mainly to the rich wasn't reckless spending? You'll need to provide a ;link to evidence of reckless spending. I dispute your claim. Borders aren't open. Edited June 19, 2023 by ozimoron 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 19 hours ago, Tug said: How so?guess fixing infrastructure is terrible?lowering drug prices for seniors terrible?jump starting domestically produced computer chips horrible?buy American made in America terrible?I could go on and on but I have things to do…….. All good and well as long as the books balance and its cost effective , otherwise the USA debt is just going to increase and cause more problems in the future 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 15 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: All good and well as long as the books balance and its cost effective , otherwise the USA debt is just going to increase and cause more problems in the future Lack of a link exposes more misinformation. https://edition.cnn.com/2023/02/10/politics/us-federal-debt-past-presidents/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said: All good and well as long as the books balance and its cost effective , otherwise the USA debt is just going to increase and cause more problems in the future Exactly. Give out freebies to buy votes for a longer term of power, run up the debt and let the opposition sort it out when you are finally booted out. Straight from the left wing playbook. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Exactly. Give out freebies to buy votes for a longer term of power, run up the debt and let the opposition sort it out when you are finally booted out. Straight from the left wing playbook. The link above shows the debt reducing under Biden after skyrocketing under trump. Could we at least agree to use the facts unless you can provide evidence? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JonnyF Posted June 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, ozimoron said: The link above shows the debt reducing under Biden after skyrocketing under trump. Could we at least agree to use the facts unless you can provide evidence? 100% not true. Why do you think they needed to increase the debt ceiling ? Here are the facts. I hope you can read graphs. https://www.statista.com/statistics/187867/public-debt-of-the-united-states-since-1990/ Stop posting misinformation. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 1 hour ago, ozimoron said: Lack of a link exposes more misinformation. https://edition.cnn.com/2023/02/10/politics/us-federal-debt-past-presidents/index.html I was giving my opinion, how do you expect me to provide a link to my opinion !!!!!!!!!!! . I give my opinion without a link, you don't give an opinion and just post a link to someone else's opinion (not to mention your ink appears to not address the points I raised) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 10 minutes ago, JonnyF said: 100% not true. Why do you think they needed to increase the debt ceiling ? Here are the facts. I hope you can read graphs. https://www.statista.com/statistics/187867/public-debt-of-the-united-states-since-1990/ Stop posting misinformation. Finally got a link out of you. Congratulations. From my link It’s worth noting that the figures used in the graph above measure debt held by the public, which experts at the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities argue is more economically meaningful than gross debt. The former measures the government’s borrowing from the private sector and foreign governments, excluding debt it owes itself. Debt held by the public is currently about $24 trillion, and gross debt, which is subject to the congressional limit, is about $31 trillion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said: I was giving my opinion, how do you expect me to provide a link to my opinion !!!!!!!!!!! . I give my opinion without a link, you don't give an opinion and just post a link to someone else's opinion (not to mention your ink appears to not address the points I raised) Your opinion about the US federal public debt? OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 1 minute ago, ozimoron said: Your opinion about the US federal public debt? OK. About the economy and economies in general . Spending money to spur the economy is OK , as long as the spurred economy pays for itself . Spending and getting more into debt isn't a long term solution , it just delays the debt crisis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 14 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: About the economy and economies in general . Spending money to spur the economy is OK , as long as the spurred economy pays for itself . Spending and getting more into debt isn't a long term solution , it just delays the debt crisis so spending money for a tax cut wasn't ok because it didn't pay for itself? https://www.brookings.edu/policy2020/votervital/did-the-2017-tax-cut-the-tax-cuts-and-jobs-act-pay-for-itself/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 1 minute ago, ozimoron said: so spending money for a tax cut wasn't ok because it didn't pay for itself? https://www.brookings.edu/policy2020/votervital/did-the-2017-tax-cut-the-tax-cuts-and-jobs-act-pay-for-itself/ I wont be able to read that link until Wednesday , as I am fully booked to read all the previous links you have posted until then . Seriously, you don't post anything yourself, you just keep sending me links to read . I don't have the time to keep opening links and watching videos, 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: I wont be able to read that link until Wednesday , as I am fully booked to read all the previous links you have posted until then . Seriously, you don't post anything yourself, you just keep sending me links to read . I don't have the time to keep opening links and watching videos, I read all the links you posted in 0.37 seconds ???? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, ozimoron said: I read all the links you posted in 0.37 seconds ???? I haven't posted any links Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: I haven't posted any links QED 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 6 hours ago, ozimoron said: Lack of a link exposes more misinformation. https://edition.cnn.com/2023/02/10/politics/us-federal-debt-past-presidents/index.html Pot calling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamnutsak Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Wait. What? No gaffes. No tripping/falling? No misspoken or mysterious words? Seems pretty dynamic, ya know, for a guy who is supposed to be holed up in a basement. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3o9e0LkrcMY 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 5 hours ago, bamnutsak said: Wait. What? No gaffes. No tripping/falling? No misspoken or mysterious words? Seems pretty dynamic, ya know, for a guy who is supposed to be holed up in a basement. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3o9e0LkrcMY It's easier if you lie all the way through. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 15 hours ago, ozimoron said: Finally got a link out of you. Congratulations. From my link It’s worth noting that the figures used in the graph above measure debt held by the public, which experts at the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities argue is more economically meaningful than gross debt. The former measures the government’s borrowing from the private sector and foreign governments, excluding debt it owes itself. Debt held by the public is currently about $24 trillion, and gross debt, which is subject to the congressional limit, is about $31 trillion. Here's another link for you. https://edition.cnn.com/2023/02/17/politics/biden-economy-facts-first/index.html 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 17 hours ago, JonnyF said: 100% not true. Why do you think they needed to increase the debt ceiling ? Here are the facts. I hope you can read graphs. https://www.statista.com/statistics/187867/public-debt-of-the-united-states-since-1990/ Stop posting misinformation. The problem with 100% true is it can’t be applied when referring to complex causes. There was indeed ‘a need’ to borrow to spend during the pandemic. There was absolutely not ‘a need’ to hand $1.3 Trillion in tax breaks to the hyper wealthy and high profit corporations. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 14 hours ago, nauseus said: Pot calling. You're accusing me of not providing links? What a joke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: The problem with 100% true is it can’t be applied when referring to complex causes. There was indeed ‘a need’ to borrow to spend during the pandemic. There was absolutely not ‘a need’ to hand $1.3 Trillion in tax breaks to the hyper wealthy and high profit corporations. Have you got any links to refute the clear facts that my links proved? Sounds like you are trying to obfuscate. Please try to avoid posting misinformation about the increase in national debt that has clearly occured under the Biden administration. Much appreciated. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 48 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Have you got any links to refute the clear facts that my links proved? Sounds like you are trying to obfuscate. Please try to avoid posting misinformation about the increase in national debt that has clearly occured under the Biden administration. Much appreciated. I’m not refuting the data, I’m refuting your comment: ” 100% not true. Why do you think they needed to increase the debt ceiling ?” You’ve asked a question, I have responded with an example of why the debt ceiling needed to be increased and another which was totally unnecessary. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 1 hour ago, billd766 said: And what kind of record does the GOP under the liar in chief have? Trump knows that. If you tell the truth it is easy to remember. If you tell lies you need to remember which lie you told about what. Or if you are Trump you ignore that, and spew out a few more lies daily. I had to check the OP - yup it's about Biden. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 1 hour ago, ozimoron said: You're accusing me of not providing links? What a joke. No. You were talking about misinformation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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