20 hours ago, ozimoron said:

You think anti-semitic and racist remarks should be protected as free speech?

It came from China. Why is he attacking jews? The Chinese were doing experiments. I don't but the race stuff. Ironically America made the best vaccines.

 

So we have a racist, a senile dude vs used car guy or De Santa.

1 minute ago, bignok said:

It came from China. Why is he attacking jews? The Chinese were doing experiments. I don't but the race stuff. Ironically America made the best vaccines.

 

So we have a racist, a senile dude vs used car guy or De Santa.

The experiments were funded partially by the NHS and CDC as a joint project. The American drug companies benefited from research done at Wuhan. The far right vaccine conspiracy theorists love to point out that the NHS partially funded that research.

6 minutes ago, bamnutsak said:

 The Kool-Aid is strong with this one.

 

The Pentagon didn’t ‘admit’ that there are 46 US-funded biolabs in Ukraine
 

The United States government didn’t admit that there are 46 U.S.-funded biolabs in Ukraine.

 

The document referenced by far-right and socialist websites repeats known information about 46 Ukrainian-owned and -operated laboratories, health facilities and diagnostic sites that have received support from the U.S. 

 

The government fact sheet specifically states that Ukraine “has no nuclear, chemical, or biological weapons programs.”

 

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/jun/15/blog-posting/pentagon-didnt-admit-there-are-46-us-funded-biolab/

 

 

 

Sorry but can't look at these silly posts - Ignore User.

 

 

Biolabs doesn't necessarily mean bioweapons labs. The Wuhan research laboratory was a biolab, researching cornavirus pathogens.  Was it being used by the Chinese military? I don't know but there have been reports to that effect.

 

Of course, all those official bodies initially denied that this research was taking place as well despite all the evidence to the contrary.

 

The point is that the U.S. has been funding things like gain of function research in foreign facilities that it would be illegal to pursue in the United States. Are they also conducting bioweapon research? I don't know but it wouldn't surprise me. I wouldn't expect anyone to admit it though. Would you?

 

Having said all that, RFK Jr. does have a lot of nutty ideas.

Just now, jaywalker2 said:

Biolabs doesn't necessarily mean bioweapons labs. The Wuhan research laboratory was a biolab, researching cornavirus pathogens.  Was it being used by the Chinese military? I don't know but there have been reports to that effect.

 

Of course, all those official bodies initially denied that this research was taking place as well despite all the evidence to the contrary.

 

The point is that the U.S. has been funding things like gain of function research in foreign facilities that it would be illegal to pursue in the United States. Are they also conducting bioweapon research? I don't know but it wouldn't surprise me. I wouldn't expect anyone to admit it though. Would you?

 

Having said all that, RFK Jr. does have a lot of nutty ideas.

There was no "gain off function". The virus being engineered had no relationship with coronavirus and never posed a threat to humans.

 

You're "I don't know but" is just baseless and unsupported conspiracy theories which contravene the rules of this forum.

3 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

The experiments were funded partially by the NHS and CDC as a joint project. The American drug companies benefited from research done at Wuhan. The far right vaccine conspiracy theorists love to point out that the NHS partially funded that research.

I find it hard to believe it was an accident.

Just now, bignok said:

I find it hard to believe it was an accident.

Right, the Chinese deliberately exposed the virus to their own population first.

5 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Right, the Chinese deliberately exposed the virus to their own population first.

They kill their own people all the time. 

2 minutes ago, bignok said:

They kill their own people all the time. 

Well, who were their primary targets?

Troll post removed along with reported off topic posts and replies.

40 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

That's actually true -- or rather it's been reported as true (who know what's true anymore).

 

https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/after-months-of-denial-u-s-admits-to-running-ukraine-biolabs/

False.

 

The Pentagon didn’t ‘admit’ that there are 46 US-funded biolabs in Ukraine

he United States government didn’t admit that there are 46 U.S.-funded biolabs in Ukraine.

The document referenced by far-right and socialist websites repeats known information about 46 Ukrainian-owned and -operated laboratories, health facilities and diagnostic sites that have received support from the U.S. 

The government fact sheet specifically states that Ukraine “has no nuclear, chemical, or biological weapons programs.”

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/jun/15/blog-posting/pentagon-didnt-admit-there-are-46-us-funded-biolab/

Eric is a fan

 

https://guitar.com/news/music-news/eric-clapton-tried-and-failed-to-donate-5000-to-rfk-jrs-presidential-campaign/

Proof that not only the republicans elect idiots.

Though you got to admit, they do seem to elect a lot more of them, 

20 hours ago, FruitPudding said:

That sounds about right.

 

Can't say anything without being called racist or antisemitic.

 

Straight out the Left's playbook for taking away freedom of speech.

Freedom of speach does not mean freedom from consequences. If you are stupid enough to announce to the world “COVID-19 is targeted to attack Caucasians and Black people. The people who are most immune are Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese.” then no amount of  crying 'but, but, freedom of speach!' is going to protect you from the justifiable backlash.

So much for that 20% among the Democrats.

I suspect he'll go 3rd party.

 

4 minutes ago, bendejo said:

So much for that 20% among the Democrats.

I suspect he'll go 3rd party.

 

Not quite right, only in a technical sense. He will be backed by the No Labels dark money group who just coincidentally are the main Republican donors. His role is not to win an election but to spoil it for the Democrats. The chances of Dem or swing voters buy this guy's extremism is minimal, however, it's just another spanner in the toolbox.

 

Third party candidates can never win, they are just about messaging. Even if they could win they don't control either house or senate.

Edited July 18, 20232 yr by ozimoron

25 minutes ago, bendejo said:

So much for that 20% among the Democrats.

I suspect he'll go 3rd party.

 

If the Republicans fund that the Democrats should fund a Liz Cheney 3rd party candidacy.

23 minutes ago, heybruce said:

If the Republicans fund that the Democrats should fund a Liz Cheney 3rd party candidacy.

I suspect her main appeal is from conservative democrats so no.

An unattributed post has been removed, please always put a link to the source of your claims, thank you.

18 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I suspect her main appeal is from conservative democrats so no.

I think she would be an appealing option for the authentic, Never-Trump Republicans.

1 hour ago, ozimoron said:

Not quite right, only in a technical sense. He will be backed by the No Labels dark money group who just coincidentally are the main Republican donors.

Do you know if this will be a multi-candidate party, like they will run both, let's say, Manchin and RFK? 

So what would be the attraction for Dems to vote for him "hey! with us you can be antisemitic-racist-antivax and NOT be Republican!" ?

 

 

2 hours ago, ozimoron said:

You're "I don't know but"

That's now referred to as a "Rogan".

 

 

 

On 7/17/2023 at 9:22 AM, Social Media said:

but there are papers out there that show

He is definitely "out there" as well, and it shows

On 7/16/2023 at 8:31 PM, bamnutsak said:

He had me until he mentioned that the U.S. bio-labs are in the Ukraine.

 

Huh?

 

Video can be viewed here: https://nypost.com/2023/07/15/rfk-jr-says-covid-was-ethnically-targeted-to-spare-jews/

 

Honestly this chap is loopy AF. His family should intervene before he says something even more epically stoopid.

 

 

News flash, there are US labs in Ukraine. 

2 hours ago, ozimoron said:

Right, the Chinese deliberately exposed the virus to their own population first.

Really? Tell me more.

3 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

News flash, there are US labs in Ukraine. 

Really?  Identify them.

 

Before you start, note that Ukrainian government labs that receive funding from the US and other sources are not "US labs in Ukraine".

2 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Really?  Identify them.

 

Before you start, note that Ukrainian government labs that receive funding from the US and other sources are not "US labs in Ukraine".

See, the word games begin. US lab vs US funded lab. Pleaseeee.

1 hour ago, bendejo said:

Do you know if this will be a multi-candidate party, like they will run both, let's say, Manchin and RFK? 

So what would be the attraction for Dems to vote for him "hey! with us you can be antisemitic-racist-antivax and NOT be Republican!" ?

 

 

Any particular party can only run one candidate for president and one candidate for vice president.

23 hours ago, FruitPudding said:

Can't say anything without being called racist or antisemitic.

 

Well, if it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck ...

3 minutes ago, Cory1848 said:

Well, if it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck ...

.... it's Joe Biden trying to get through a press conference?

17 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

See, the word games begin. US lab vs US funded lab. Pleaseeee.

Is there any country which doesn't have biological science labs?