3 hours ago, Venom said:

Maybe you should go home then. ????

If only I could talk my wife into moving our family back home, for now we are stuck in Hell.

16 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

I haven't seen anything on the roads yet that shows they are checking..Only yesterday there was a policeman at a roundabout and it was quit a mess but he only was watching and doing nothing to let the traffic go smoothly...

You don't understand the Thai system. He - the Deputy Commander- has spoken, made his recommendations, and his job is done. Anything that happens later is not his responsibility. You, I, he and everyone else knows that what is said will be ignored and is unenforceable, but that is not the point. He has acted, done what he considers to be his job, while actually doing nothing. This happens all the time, at least once a week. Someone makes a declaration and the next day it's ignored and forgotten. But that person has done their job by 'acting'.

12 hours ago, lordgrinz said:

Thailand has the same percentage of police officers per 100,000 people as the USA, yet for some reason we never see them enforcing any rules/laws, unless in one of these publicity stunts. If they were out patrolling the roads daily and enforcing the existing laws (again Thai laws/rules almost exactly the same as other countries) they could make a big difference in safety here in Thailand, which would attract way more "quality tourist". 

They don't care. They get paid anyway, so why work?

3 hours ago, AhFarangJa said:

16 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

For any vehicular accidents involving injuries or fatalities, investigating officers were instructed to check the blood alcohol level of every driver involved to ensure robust traffic safety. People found guilty of any offences will be fully prosecuted for all offences.

Except for drivers in Mercedes, BMW's, and other Hi-So drivers.

And those who refuse to take the test, which happens often.

1 hour ago, zyphodb said:

And if they got equivalent pay they might just work a little more... 

You think living expenses in the USA are the same as Thailand? Really? The problem isn't a financial one, it's a cultural one. Many Thais like to make as little effort as possible, whereas most police in the USA take pride in doing a job well. And that doesn't apply only to the police force.

Should these laws not be enforced all year round anyway?

Oh, sorry, would that not mean people doing their jobs all year round - the ones they get paid to do?

33 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

You don't understand the Thai system. He - the Deputy Commander- has spoken, made his recommendations, and his job is done. Anything that happens later is not his responsibility. You, I, he and everyone else knows that what is said will be ignored and is unenforceable, but that is not the point. He has acted, done what he considers to be his job, while actually doing nothing. This happens all the time, at least once a week. Someone makes a declaration and the next day it's ignored and forgotten. But that person has done their job by 'acting'.

I wonder if the Deputy Commander understands he is incompetent and unfit for the job, it's highly unlikely he got his job on merit.

But its still ok to drive on the wrong side of the road in the opposite direction…..as long as you wear a helmet are are not drunk !!!!!

Edited July 29, 20232 yr by Reigntax

18 hours ago, NoDisplayName said:

What of the non-holiday periods?

No enfor...................

 

Never mind.

Stupid question.

Carry on.

why can't you focus on the actual positive to this? R u permanently set to Thai-bashing mode and follow the crowd OR can you actually think for yourself?

2 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

They don't care. They get paid anyway, so why work?

they get paid a pittance.

2 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

You think living expenses in the USA are the same as Thailand? Really? The problem isn't a financial one, it's a cultural one. Many Thais like to make as little effort as possible, whereas most police in the USA take pride in doing a job well. And that doesn't apply only to the police force.

that's one of the most ill-informed posts I have seen for a while. 

1 hour ago, lordgrinz said:

I wonder if the Deputy Commander understands he is incompetent and unfit for the job, it's highly unlikely he got his job on merit.

how would you even know if that were true? You had neevr heard of him until you read this.

5 minutes ago, Jackbenimble said:

how would you even know if that were true? You had neevr heard of him until you read this.

Its common knowledge in Thailand that police pay for higher positions, which explains the incompetence of the RTP, and the rampant corruption in their ranks. They resemble a Mafia, not a police force.

Is there any set standard for the length of yellow lights at intersections? I live in Udon and I have observed for many years that when the light changes from green to red, the length of time the yellow light is displayed varies. At some intersections the yellow light appears for perhaps a second or two, while at other intersections the yellow light is displayed a bit longer. One intersection is very informative. When the light goes from green to red, the yellow light is displayed for a count of 3-2-1 and then red appears.

The variation of yellow lights at intersections must have some influence on the rate of accidents or people running red lights. Finally, the short duration yellow lights can be experienced at intersections with high volumes of traffic.  

Does this inconsistency exist in other areas as well?

 

Edited July 29, 20232 yr by jingjai9

16 hours ago, 2long said:

So, it's news that the police need to enforce laws because it's a long weekend?

I'll drive like a <deleted> for the rest of the year then... but not this weekend. Am I safe?

of course NOT !!!

26 minutes ago, Jackbenimble said:

2 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

They don't care. They get paid anyway, so why work?

they get paid a pittance.

Well, they chose the job. Up to them. What they took the job for is the 'benefits'.

26 minutes ago, Jackbenimble said:

that's one of the most ill-informed posts I have seen for a while. 

Care to expand, explain why?

16 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

Its common knowledge in Thailand that police pay for higher positions, which explains the incompetence of the RTP, and the rampant corruption in their ranks. They resemble a Mafia, not a police force.

it isn't an idication of incompetence? How did you draw that conclusion from someone paying for a more senior position?

19 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

Care to expand, explain why?

"And if they got equivalent pay they might just work a little more..." 

(Your reply) You think living expenses in the USA are the same as Thailand?

The OP wasn't making a comparison to Police forces in America. Thai Police are paid a pittance when compared to just regular Thai office workers or even Uni Grads. You didn't know that? 

Really? The problem isn't a financial one, it's a cultural one. Many Thais like to make as little effort as possible.

Just plain wrong and only demostrates your lack of knowledge regarding Thais. Yes some are lazy......just like they are in your country. But it's innaccurate to tar them all with the same brush and ill-informed.

whereas most police in the USA take pride in doing a job well. That is just not true.

And that doesn't apply only to the police force. This also is untrue.

 

Most people in "the west" do not love their jobs nor do they take pride in what they do. The law of averages tells us that there will be some who do but to insinuate that it's the norm is not true and disingenuous.

 

20 minutes ago, jingjai9 said:

Is there any set standard for the length of yellow lights at intersections? I live in Udon and I have observed for many years that when the light changes from green to red, the length of time the yellow light is displayed varies. At some intersections the yellow light appears for perhaps a second or two, while at other intersections the yellow light is displayed a bit longer. One intersection is very informative. When the light goes from green to red, the yellow light is displayed for a count of 3-2-1 and then red appears.

The variation of yellow lights at intersections must have some influence on the rate of accidents or people running red lights. Finally, the short duration yellow lights can be experienced at intersections with high volumes of traffic.  

Does this inconsistency exist in other areas as well?

 

Come to Maung Thang Thani, we have a 4 way stop where no one stops in any direction, full speed ahead! Even near Impact Exhibition and Convention Center they just blow right thru the stops signs, and I have personally watched multiple police officers fly right through the stop signs too, its just amazing that such an incompetent and useless RTP is allowed to exist.

19 hours ago, Jackbenimble said:

"And if they got equivalent pay they might just work a little more..." 

(Your reply) You think living expenses in the USA are the same as Thailand?

The OP wasn't making a comparison to Police forces in America. Thai Police are paid a pittance when compared to just regular Thai office workers or even Uni Grads. You didn't know that? 

Really? The problem isn't a financial one, it's a cultural one. Many Thais like to make as little effort as possible.

Just plain wrong and only demostrates your lack of knowledge regarding Thais. Yes some are lazy......just like they are in your country. But it's innaccurate to tar them all with the same brush and ill-informed.

whereas most police in the USA take pride in doing a job well. That is just not true.

And that doesn't apply only to the police force. This also is untrue.

 

Most people in "the west" do not love their jobs nor do they take pride in what they do. The law of averages tells us that there will be some who do but to insinuate that it's the norm is not true and disingenuous.

 

Delusional much?

Perhaps the police should get help in enforcing the flow of traffic by using the teenage students that I see each day cotrolling the traffic outside the school gates as 500 or so students can cross the road...... very smart in their green uniforms and black berets.........not a policeman in sight. 

15 hours ago, lordgrinz said:

Thailand has the same percentage of police officers per 100,000 people as the USA, yet for some reason we never see them enforcing any rules/laws, unless in one of these publicity stunts. If they were out patrolling the roads daily and enforcing the existing laws (again Thai laws/rules almost exactly the same as other countries) they could make a big difference in safety here in Thailand, which would attract way more "quality tourist". 

The difference is, 1st world countries police forces are  interviewed, selected and trained. Thai police just buy the job, uniform and weapon, then off they go let loose on the public to fiddle as much money and rank as possible. Ever seen or read of a police constable in Thailand ? No they're all Chiefs, Commissioner, Generals, Commanders or whatever they wish to call themselves. The whole setup is a joke.

19 hours ago, Jackbenimble said:

"And if they got equivalent pay they might just work a little more..." 

(Your reply) You think living expenses in the USA are the same as Thailand?

The OP wasn't making a comparison to Police forces in America. Thai Police are paid a pittance when compared to just regular Thai office workers or even Uni Grads. You didn't know that? 

Really? The problem isn't a financial one, it's a cultural one. Many Thais like to make as little effort as possible.

Just plain wrong and only demostrates your lack of knowledge regarding Thais. Yes some are lazy......just like they are in your country. But it's innaccurate to tar them all with the same brush and ill-informed.

whereas most police in the USA take pride in doing a job well. That is just not true.

And that doesn't apply only to the police force. This also is untrue.

 

Most people in "the west" do not love their jobs nor do they take pride in what they do. The law of averages tells us that there will be some who do but to insinuate that it's the norm is not true and disingenuous.

 

1 - I wrote many Thais, so I didn't, as you put it, tar them all with the same brush. Many doesn't mean all.

2 - It is a well-known fact that the police have, how to put this, extra income. In fact, it was revealed in an article several months ago that there is a nationwide target for what must be received in donations from each division and how it must be shared.

My middle-ranking policeman brother-in-law has three houses, two motorcycles, a large passenger van and a pickup, as well as several plots of land. All on the, as you put it, pittance he is paid.

3 - My lack of knowledge regarding Thais. Okay, I must have misunderstood them in my nearly 30 years of living in the country. I apologise for my ignorance.

4 - Your claim of how happy or otherwise people are in their jobs elsewhere is your opinion, based I assume on your experience and observations. Mine is different, so we have to leave it there. 

All this means is that if the police stop you, they’ll ask for more tea money than usual, it won’t help the situation get better, it”lol just make more money for the police in bribes.

What about the rest off the year?

No can do, you can do whatever you want. They do anyway .

So why make all this work for the lazy cops .

Who said the RTP don't have a sense of humour?

Don’t these fools realize how much they’re embarrassing themselves? Not that they need to, because the RTP already has no credibility whatsoever, but still.

 

”So normally we don’t enforce any traffic laws because we’re too busy thieving and scamming and doing absolutely nothing. But for once we will enforce the ten main traffic laws, that’s all we can do, don’t ask us to do any more”.

 

Absolutely ludicrous, the whole RTP is a joke, from top to bottom.

1 hour ago, Jackbenimble said:

why can't you focus on the actual positive to this? R u permanently set to Thai-bashing mode and follow the crowd OR can you actually think for yourself?

Sorry, sir!

The positive?

Sure, buddy.

 

Hundreds of corrupt "police officers" get a 6-day open hunting season with no bag limit.  Next week will be like an episode of Oprah..........."You get a BMW, and you get a BMW, and you get a BMW!....."

 

What could possibly go worng?

7 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

You think living expenses in the USA are the same as Thailand? Really? The problem isn't a financial one, it's a cultural one. Many Thais like to make as little effort as possible, whereas most police in the USA take pride in doing a job well. And that doesn't apply only to the police force.

No Protestant work ethic, no Catholic guilt.

 

A fundamental characteristic.

 

Thailand 1.1

 

"Look before you leap"

 

 

Edited July 29, 20232 yr by Enoon