EV's and that continuing question of public safety..

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This, and the multiple other threads on EVs, just reinforces that, like so many other things on the internet, people tend to divide into two tribes - the fingers-in-ear types who will hear nothing bad said about them, and the fingers-in-ear types who will hear nothing good said about them.  ( And, as has already been shown on this thread, many in the latter camp are also driven by China/Thai/ anywhere other than their own country, or ones similar to it, bashing).  My next car, (not for a few years yet though), will very likely be an EV, and I would have no hesitation in buying one from a Chinese manufacturer.  However, I do take note of the news surrounding some of these vehicles and their batteries.  Such as the Jaguar i-Pace (Austrian made), Chevrolet Bolt (US made) and Hyundai Kona (Czech Republic and India made).  All of these models have been recalled due to battery fires, and, not coincidently, all use the same LG battery type (made in several locations in the US, Europe and South Korea).  Note that neither China nor Thailand appear anywhere in their manufacturing locations, though the Korean bashers can continue feeling smug.

 

This is not a bash on EVs, but rather pointing out that, when these things happen, they can usually be traced to one particular piece of tech, with the lessons learned allowing it to be fixed or changed.  Rather than putting their heads in a bucket of sand and denying everything, EV owners should acknowledge this.  However, given the length of time that MG EVs have been sold in Thailand, and the hot conditions here, there surely would have been some indication of fire problems by now.  The possibility of my new EV car bursting into flames will play as small a part in my decision as to what type of car to buy in the future as the possibility that my petrol or diesel powered one will do the same.

 

 

Kiwi Jaguar EV owners told to park cars outside due to fire risk | Stuff.co.nz

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I feel mush safer driving a gas automobile with over a hundred years of proven technology improvements.

[Ralf001]

  On 8/14/2023 at 3:54 AM, Kwasaki said:

The old made in England as you remark about Morris Garages is unfair they made some very reliable cars in there history.

 

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MG Car Company became a standalone entity detached from Morris Garages in 1928.

 

What reliable cars did Morris Garages make ?

[Kwasaki]

  On 8/14/2023 at 3:31 AM, KhunLA said:

I thought he was spot on.  How many BMCs are still producing and how many have gone belly up, taken over, because intelligent people stopped buying their crap.

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I would say how many BMC cars are around and are collectors vehicles which fetch a lot of dosh.

You comment is not fair IMO the bad was useless greedy UK management in the car industry.

[transam]

  On 8/14/2023 at 3:31 AM, KhunLA said:

I thought he was spot on.  How many BMCs are still producing and how many have gone belly up, taken over, because intelligent people stopped buying their crap.

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Is it similar to your country being taken over by the Japanese auto makers.....?.....................????

[Ralf001]

  On 8/14/2023 at 4:02 AM, transam said:

Is it similar to your country being taken over by the Japanese auto makers.....?.....................????

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Which country ?

 

[Kwasaki]

  On 8/14/2023 at 3:59 AM, Ralf001 said:

MG Car Company became a standalone entity detached from Morris Garages in 1928.

 

What reliable cars did Morris Garages make ?

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Oh !! Give me a break easy to read about and you should know if your interested in mechanics. 

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One thing going for the EV's is that they will keep you warm on a cold night.

[Ralf001]

  On 8/14/2023 at 4:05 AM, Kwasaki said:

Oh !! Give me a break easy to read about and you should know if your interested in mechanics. 

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Am defo interested in all things mechanical.... just not horrid british automobiles.

[transam]

  On 8/14/2023 at 3:41 AM, Goat said:

I couldnt really give a stuff about their story.

Only the quality of the cars which has greatly improved since the Thai factory in Chonburi started putting them together. The old MGs were famous for breaking down and being full of rattles.

 

Tell me Trans, have you actually ever been in a new MG. 

Or are you just making stuff up how you think they should be.

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????..................The Chinese bought the MG name, sunbeam, they are Chinese from top to bottom. The MG pickup is bling'd Maxus T something.

 

My friend has an MG ZS, he bought a Mr. DIY cushion to sit on as it was uncomfortable, so yes I have been in one, and it is uncomfortable unless you are just going round the block..????

 

I don't think this motoring forum is for you, ol' chum....????

 

 

 

[transam]

  On 8/14/2023 at 4:04 AM, Ralf001 said:

Which country ?

 

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Any.................????

[transam]

  On 8/14/2023 at 4:08 AM, Ralf001 said:

Am defo interested in all things mechanical.... just not horrid british automobiles.

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Which British cars did you own to come to that conclusion.....?  ????

[Ralf001]

  On 8/14/2023 at 4:15 AM, transam said:

Which British cars did you own to come to that conclusion.....?  ????

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Can proudly say zero.

But dont need to own to know how bad they were/are... History is a wonderful archive.

[Ralf001]

  On 8/14/2023 at 4:17 AM, transam said:

Really, the USA auto market has been decimated by Japanese superior tech and reliability auto's.....

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But the Japanese have not taken over the country.

 

Maybe pull up on licking windows for a few minutes and read what type before hitting the enter key.

[metisdead]

A post with a contemptuous reference to the Japanese people contravening our Community Standards has been removed.

[transam]

  On 8/14/2023 at 4:18 AM, Ralf001 said:

Can proudly say zero.

But dont need to own to know how bad they were/are... History is a wonderful archive.

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So you never owned one, how surprising, not...................????

 

"Proudly", are you American....? ????

[transam]

  On 8/14/2023 at 4:19 AM, Ralf001 said:

But the Japanese have not taken over the country.

 

Maybe pull up on licking windows for a few minutes and read what type before hitting the enter key.

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Nice twist.....................

[Ralf001]

  On 8/14/2023 at 4:21 AM, transam said:

So you never owned one, how surprising, not...................????

 

"Proudly", are you American....? ????

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Proudly am not american.

[KhunLA]

  On 8/14/2023 at 4:02 AM, transam said:

Is it similar to your country being taken over by the Japanese auto makers.....?.....................????

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Yes it is, and why I stopped buying Detroit crap as my sole dependable transport, when living in USA.   Datson/Nissan & Mazda.   Even my Ford Escort was a rebadged Mazda.

 

I don't do the country/make allegiance thingy.  Give me the best value for my baht, and I'll buy it.

 

I left the USA ... nuff said

[KhunLA]

  On 8/14/2023 at 4:09 AM, transam said:

My friend has an MG ZS, he bought a Mr. DIY cushion to sit on as it was uncomfortable, so yes I have been in one, and it is uncomfortable unless you are just going round the block..????

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And yet, with my bad back, I can ride in ours for hours, unlike our Toyota & Mazda at the same price point.

[transam]

  On 8/14/2023 at 4:36 AM, KhunLA said:

And yet, with my bad back, I can ride in ours for hours, unlike our Toyota & Mazda at the same price point.

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My friend, or I have not got bad backs, we are just not comfortable in a ZS...

[rocketboy2]

  On 8/14/2023 at 3:47 AM, Ralf001 said:

Either the Poms are stupid (which I mostly think are)

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Maybe you should go tell them that.

 

What was this fine gentleman's nationality. 

 

[Kwasaki]

  On 8/14/2023 at 4:08 AM, Ralf001 said:

Am defo interested in all things mechanical.... just not horrid british automobiles.

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???? so bliss.

The Morris minor bullet proof.

To commemorate manufacturing a million cars (the first time a UK British manufacture had ever built such an amount), BMC produced 349 million of these, 31 were sold to North America and Europe and the remaining 318 were distributed equally through the UK BMC dealer network resulting in one car per deal.

There are still over 2000 morris minors on the roads and used in England to this day.

[Ralf001]

  On 8/14/2023 at 4:48 AM, rocketboy2 said:

Maybe you should go tell them that.

 

What was this fine gentleman's nationality. 

 

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How would I know what his nationality is.... your the one telling the story, do you know ?

[transam]

  On 8/14/2023 at 4:48 AM, Kwasaki said:

???? so bliss.

The Morris minor bullet proof.

To commemorate manufacturing a million cars (the first time a UK British manufacture had ever built such an amount), BMC produced 349 million of these, 31 were sold to North America and Europe and the remaining 318 were distributed equally through the UK BMC dealer network resulting in one car per deal.

There are still over 2000 morris minors on the roads and used in England to this day.

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Pointless pointing stuff out to Ralphy, he's read it all on the Internet....????

[rocketboy2]

  On 8/14/2023 at 4:50 AM, Ralf001 said:

How would I know what his nationality is.... your the one telling the story, do you know ?

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So you don't read Aseannow much then.

Pull the other one cobber,  it's got Changs on it. 

 

 

[Ralf001]

  On 8/14/2023 at 4:52 AM, rocketboy2 said:

So you don't read Aseannow much then.

Pull the other one cobber,  it's got Changs on it. 

 

 

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If it was in the news section.. you are correct I do not read.

 

Half posted articles requiring one to click a link aint my thing.

[Ralf001]

  On 8/14/2023 at 4:48 AM, Kwasaki said:

???? so bliss.

The Morris minor bullet proof.

To commemorate manufacturing a million cars (the first time a UK British manufacture had ever built such an amount), BMC produced 349 million of these, 31 were sold to North America and Europe and the remaining 318 were distributed equally through the UK BMC dealer network resulting in one car per deal.

There are still over 2000 morris minors on the roads and used in England to this day.

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So what you are saying is offering's by other brit companies were even worse and in turn drove up the morris sales !

Where did you get your fanciful numbers from... seems to me production totals was just over 1.6 million for the lifespan of the Morris Minor.

[rocketboy2]

  On 8/14/2023 at 4:48 AM, Kwasaki said:

???? so bliss.

The Morris minor bullet proof.

To commemorate manufacturing a million cars (the first time a UK British manufacture had ever built such an amount), BMC produced 349 million of these, 31 were sold to North America and Europe and the remaining 318 were distributed equally through the UK BMC dealer network resulting in one car per deal.

There are still over 2000 morris minors on the roads and used in England to this day.

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It was a great car. welded many up in a former life.

But do a check on it's history on design/ tooling

as the bonnet has a weld down it for some reason !!!! 

 

[Ralf001]

  On 8/14/2023 at 5:00 AM, rocketboy2 said:

It was a great car. welded many up in a former life.

 

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They fell apart ?