Does anything really matter?

[2baht]

Just now, PassportBro said:

Existentialist attitude.

 

Did you read the rest of my post? Evidently not

I meant on the part of the OP. I did read all your post!

[2baht]

18 hours ago, bob smith said:

balls to everyone else. 

 

You need to find yourself a good cave, Bob! 

[bignok]

15 hours ago, Sticky Rice Balls said:

Ive found that ever since hitting the ignore button on Bob and Big Nok im much happier....

Happiness should not come from the internet

[connda]

19 hours ago, Trippy said:

Wasn't it 2 or 3 days ago you said you were on medication and quit drinking. That didn't last long.

20 hours ago, connda said:

Back to the bottle bob?   You're screaming for help.  Here's your life-line:

https://www.aathailand.org/all-meetings?language=en

 

19 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

Not the first time for this cycle.

bob states he has issues with drinking.  bob attempts to quit.  About 4 days later, bob goes into the nihilistic meltdown

 

21 hours ago, bob smith said:

the more i think of it, the more i think that nothing in life really matters.

These are signs of alcohol use disorder.  I'm not going to call bob an alcoholic.  Only bob, once he is brutally honest with himself, can make that determination.

But?  Judging by his previous post over time:

In the past year, have you:

* Had times when you ended up drinking more, or longer, than you intended?
* More than once wanted to cut down or stop drinking, or tried to, but couldn’t?
* Spent a lot of time drinking, being sick from drinking, or getting over other aftereffects?
* Wanted a drink so badly you couldn’t think of anything else?
* Found that drinking—or being sick from drinking—often interfered with taking care of your home or       family? Or caused job troubles? Or school problems?
* Continued to drink even though it was causing trouble with your family or friends?
* Given up or cut back on activities you found important, interesting, or pleasurable so you could drink?
* More than once gotten into situations while or after drinking that increased your chances of getting hurt (such as driving, swimming, using machinery, walking in a dangerous area, or unsafe sexual behavior)?
* Continued to drink even though it was making you feel depressed or anxious or adding to another health problem? Or after having had an alcohol-related memory blackout?
*Had to drink much more than you once did to get the effect you want? Or found that your usual number of drinks had much less effect than before?
*Found that when the effects of alcohol were wearing off, you had withdrawal symptoms, such as trouble sleeping, shakiness, restlessness, nausea, sweating, a racing heart, dysphoria (feeling uneasy or unhappy), malaise (general sense of being unwell), feeling low, or a seizure? Or sensed things that were not there?
-- Source:  National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism

So, I assume when bob is about a six pack in, he likes to lecture AN members about how much wealthier, financially secure, and self-actualized he is then the average AN plod, which I assume means that wealth = happiness.
And yet here is bob, after and unsuccessful attempt at not drinking, floundering about in a nihilistic breakdown where life has no meaning ("dysphoria (feeling uneasy or unhappy), malaise (general sense of being unwell), feeling low")  <-----  Seems you're right here bob.  And as many of us have pointed out in the past, money can't buy happiness.  Nor is happiness found in a bottle.  Happiness is found only after you are brutally honest with yourself about your situation in life - and then you gain acceptance.  You start to find happiness in family, friends, in hobbies, in connecting with your "high-power" or higher-self.  You find happiness in giving and sharing, and in being generous and selfless.  In being kind.

I hope bob faces his drinking issues.  I'd prefer not to hear at a later date that after dwelling on the utter meaningless of life, bob decides to 'check out' of Thailand, and not on a commercial flight.

bob - get into a program and stop drinking.  Then after a few months, reassess the meaning of life.  In sobriety. 

Best of luck mate.  This is my last comment on this matter. 

[nobodysfriend]

On 9/23/2023 at 1:13 PM, bob smith said:

the more i think of it, the more i think that nothing in life really matters.

 

we will all be dead within 50 years or so. such a small and insignificant amount of time on the grand timeline of the universe.

how many of us can remember our great grandparents and what they did with their lives? does anyone spare a thought for them? Do you care?

 

do whatever you want. (within reason, without exploiting/harming others)

dont be hindered by guilt,

when we are on our deathbed we are going to regret the things we didnt do.

 

time waits for no man.

live your life the way you want to.

balls to everyone else. 

 

Philosophy for beginners .

Life matters , evolution is essential for the survival of the species , what an individual does in the few years it has , can become important for the survival of everything .

Life is nothing but a test if a species is intelligent enough to ensure it's own survival by keeping or restoring the natural balance of ecosystems and biosphere .

 

[DaveE13]

On 9/23/2023 at 8:10 AM, Crossy said:

 

I'd forgotten just how wonderful this track is...

 

Thanks for reminding me ???? 

Saw them at the O2 in London a few years ago. One of the best gigs I ever been to ,????

[bignok]

Life is life. Its a riddle wrapped in a puzzle.

[Bangkok Barry]

[cobra]

Ah yes, the regret problem on one's death bed,

I just rationalize I made the proper decisions with the information or circumstances at hand, 

and would most likely do the same again.

 

Does anything matter ?, 

Some physicists speculate we may just be a simulation, entertainment for a higher AI,

or maybe it's just "42", (Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy), lol

[thaibeachlovers]

On 9/23/2023 at 6:13 PM, bob smith said:

the more i think of it, the more i think that nothing in life really matters.

It doesn't. We only think it does because we think about ourselves as mattering.

100 years from now most of us will be entirely forgotten.

 

After enough time even the universe will be dead.

[thaibeachlovers]

3 hours ago, cobra said:

Some physicists speculate we may just be a simulation, entertainment for a higher AI,

I've been thinking that a lot recently. That would explain a lot of things.

Perhaps the Matrix is for real.

[2baht]

9 hours ago, bignok said:

Life is life. Its a riddle wrapped in a puzzle.

The smart ones work it out!

[2baht]

5 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

After enough time even the universe will be dead.

.........................in the meantime.....................................? ????

[thaibeachlovers]

Just now, 2baht said:

.........................in the meantime.....................................? ????

Most of it is BS anyway. Took me a long time to work that out, but now I assume everything is BS till proven otherwise.

 

After I pass over I'll be forgotten in less than a year. No family, no kids. It'll be like I never existed. So, no, I don't matter.

[thaibeachlovers]

16 hours ago, nobodysfriend said:

Life is nothing but a test if a species is intelligent enough to ensure it's own survival by keeping or restoring the natural balance of ecosystems and biosphere .

That would be a fail for humanity then. We don't keep and we definitely ain't restoring the natural balance of ecosystems and biosphere. All we do as a species is destroy.

[thaibeachlovers]

23 hours ago, 2baht said:

Losers attitude! ☹️

Why? Does anything matter? Do we matter?

The number of humans that do anything to change our civilization is infinitesimal, and the rest of us just exist for a while and then depart. Once the people that think about us die, nothing is left except perhaps a name on a gravestone.

Eventually, IMO the human race will also depart, and at most be an historical item for the next species to have intelligence.

[2baht]

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Why? Does anything matter? Do we matter?

The number of humans that do anything to change our civilization is infinitesimal, and the rest of us just exist for a while and then depart. Once the people that think about us die, nothing is left except perhaps a name on a gravestone.

Eventually, IMO the human race will also depart, and at most be an historical item for the next species to have intelligence.

What are your lifes achievments???

[thaibeachlovers]

6 minutes ago, 2baht said:

What are your lifes achievments???

I did a good job wherever and whatever I did, but none of it mattered soon as I left a job. Never had a past employer sending me a Christmas card saying thanks for my hard work. Come to that, I never even see anyone I worked with as all over the world.

 

No family to remember me. Never did anything to change people's lives. I just grew up, worked, retired and eventually I'll be no more than smoke up the chimney. They won't write books about me or make movies about my life.

Do I care? Not at all, because it doesn't matter.

[2baht]

Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

I did a good job wherever and whatever I did, but none of it mattered soon as I left a job. Never had a past employer sending me a Christmas card saying thanks for my hard work. Come to that, I never even see anyone I worked with as all over the world.

 

No family to remember me. Never did anything to change people's lives. I just grew up, worked, retired and eventually I'll be no more than smoke up the chimney. They won't write books about me or make movies about my life.

Do I care? Not at all, because it doesn't matter.

You need a pet! A gold fish or a few budgerigars?

[bob smith]

3 minutes ago, 2baht said:

You need a pet! A gold fish or a few budgerigars?

he is bang on in everything he says!

 

nothing matters. I don't matter. Neither do you.

[2baht]

Just now, bob smith said:

he is bang on in everything he says!

 

nothing matters. I don't matter. Neither do you.

I disagree! My kids would disagree! Life has been very interesting! 

[thaibeachlovers]

On 9/24/2023 at 12:23 PM, BritManToo said:

My great grandparents were born in the 1850s ....... not much chance of me remembering them.

My parents were born in 1910 and 1914, they've been gone a while.

But I have photos.

 

As for anything mattering, you're right nothing really matters.

On the subject of past family, My maternal aunt had albums full of old photos from the Victorian era of past family members. They were obviously at least upper middle class, but as my aunt hadn't written under the photos to say who they were I have no way of knowing anything about them, even their names.

My father never told me anything about his family and we didn't live in the same country to ask anyone else. I don't even have photos of them as the photos got thrown away.

My mother told me a bit, but not much.

Barely remember the grandparents.

The only family member that did anything memorable was a great uncle that won a medal in WW1. I tried to find out more about him, but a lot of the military records were lost when the place they were stored at was bombed in WW2, including his.

 

I sometimes regret that I have no family history, but not often. I guess it doesn't matter much.

[thaibeachlovers]

2 minutes ago, 2baht said:

I disagree! My kids would disagree! Life has been very interesting! 

It's not about an interesting or not life. It's about if it matters once you are gone.

My life was very interesting, but it doesn't matter. No one asks me for my life story.

[2baht]

Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

It's not about an interesting or not life. It's about if it matters once you are gone.

My life was very interesting, but it doesn't matter. No one asks me for my life story.

Well, what are you waiting for?

[thaibeachlovers]

2 minutes ago, 2baht said:

Well, what are you waiting for?

 

Only thing I'm waiting for is death.

[2baht]

Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

 

Only thing I'm waiting for is death.

Well enjoy the wait! ????

[thaibeachlovers]

4 minutes ago, 2baht said:

Well enjoy the wait! ????

I'm doing my best to do that.

[bob smith]

We matter whilst we are here to our family and to our loved ones.

 

however, once brain death has been established it’s as though we never even existed, at least to us.

 

as we have no way of communicating with the only people who remember us (our kids) then did it all really happen?

[Walker88]

Come on, Bob. You're one of 8 billion humans on a planet around one of a trillion stars in a galaxy of 200 billion other galaxies. How much more important do you want to be than that? Your 10^27 or so atoms are defying entropy, but eventually will go back to stardust. Pretty cool.

 

Actually, you and other humans on this obscure planet exist to be carriers for the trillions of bacteria that live in all of our guts.

 

Now THAT's important. To bacteria, you absolutely matter.

[bignok]

3 hours ago, 2baht said:

I disagree! My kids would disagree! Life has been very interesting! 

Only for 20 years then its boring