Testereone fanatics

[scubascuba3]

5 hours ago, SingAPorn said:

A colleague at work who often dated bodybuilders told us that many had teenie-weenie weezels. Never checked but it made sense.

Isn't a side effect shrunken testicles, not sure the penis reduces, strangely ladyboys have a reputation for big ones and they take estrogen 

[jacko45k]

7 hours ago, bobbin said:

555..

 

You walk up to to someone fitting that description and say it to their face.. instead of from behind your keyboard..

 

Go on.. I double dog dare ya..

They usually can't run very fast so should not be an issue, just make sure there are no trees for them to swing from and catch you. 

[SAFETY FIRST]

On 10/11/2023 at 4:59 PM, georgegeorgia said:

Clinics even advertising it.

Testosterone is a good thing, I reckon most of the grumpy guys on this forum would stop most of their whinging and whining if they lost some weight and improved their testosterone levels. 

 

BTW, what is Testereone? 

[liddelljohn]

I am being  given TRT  to help with Type 2 diabetes ,, its now proven to  reduce its symptoms and help Insulin production in Type 2 and improve health  and of course libido etc

[JensenZ]

14 hours ago, bobbin said:

Gynecomastia is the proper medical term. It's a not uncommon side-effect of TRT, usually associated  with higher doses.

Man boobs are a common side effect of aging. If your testosterone levels are too low, you'll get them too. Low testosterone is a side-effect of aging. Aging is not pretty. If men want to look like sh*t when they get old, then don't do TRT.

 

Testosterone aromatizes into Estradiol. Don't take anti-estrogen, or aromatase-inhibiting drugs, just lower the dose of testosterone. It's a bit stupid to take excess testosterone and then other drugs to control the side effects. Men need estrogen and too little is also a problem. The OP is/was using far too much. 125mg or less per week should be adequate for most people to increase testosterone to a normal range (for younger adults). Doing more frequent low-dose injections might help maintain more stable blood levels throughout the week, but that's a problem for people who don't like injecting themselves. You can have it done at a clinic.

 

I don't have a problem with gynecomastia, but hair loss/thinning is a problem and also excess growth of body hair. If you use finasteride to stop hair loss, then you'll have to deal with no sex drive. It kills it. (if you like to pay for it, it'll save you a fortune LOL). I've never had a problem with high blood pressure. I don't know what the OP is doing in the gym, but too much weight training and too little cardio exercise might be his problem. Training twice a day is not a good idea unless one session is cardio and the other is resistance training. You should not have a blood pressure problem caused by sensible TRT doses. (more to the point, it should not cause high blood pressure. There's probably another cause). One of the huge advantages of TRT is it can improve your sugar metabolism if you have high blood sugar.

[fredwiggy]

11 hours ago, Middle Aged Grouch said:

Why ? I am not as stupid as they are. You know the world has 2 types of street smart people. The stupid or foolish bodybuilt hero or the smart and intelligent coward. 😂....but do not worry, I won't rat on your secret to anybody here.

Have been weightlifting 50 years, no drugs, and I'm not a stupid person as you assume. No tattoos either, although all my children have them, besides my 6 year old here. If I could get HGH, I would take it, as everyone breaks down eventually and I'm not concerned anymore with lifting extreme weights but staying fit.

[fredwiggy]

5 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Isn't a side effect shrunken testicles, not sure the penis reduces, strangely ladyboys have a reputation for big ones and they take estrogen 

Actually it does happen, as a few friends who were (are) takers have had this happen, along with other problems. Testosterone isn't the culprit as much but others are. https://edition.cnn.com/2021/03/09/health/bodybuilding-steroids-testicular-damage-study-wellness/index.html

[Middle Aged Grouch]

7 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Have been weightlifting 50 years, no drugs, and I'm not a stupid person as you assume. No tattoos either, although all my children have them, besides my 6 year old here. If I could get HGH, I would take it, as everyone breaks down eventually and I'm not concerned anymore with lifting extreme weights but staying fit.

Good for you...

[JimTripper]

17 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Isn't a side effect shrunken testicles, not sure the penis reduces, strangely ladyboys have a reputation for big ones and they take estrogen 

 

22 hours ago, SingAPorn said:

A colleague at work who often dated bodybuilders told us that many had teenie-weenie weezels. Never checked but it made sense.

 

I always thought that was due to building up your body, so your penis just appears smaller in proportion to your body.

 

It's pretty obvious that many competition bodybuilders are not exactly hanging in that department. Arnold Schwartzeneggar is pretty small down there in many of his competition shots.

[Bobthegimp]

On 10/11/2023 at 5:31 PM, scubascuba3 said:

fake muscle, fake performance

If this was true there wouldn't be bans on it in professional and amateur sports. Lance Armstrong wouldn't have been stripped of 7 Tour de France titles.  The muscle and performance enhancements are real. 

 

I think athletes should be provided with every hormone and drug known to man, and strongly encouraged to use them.  They're paid top dollar, let's see the best possible performance humans are capable of. 

 

Athletes, like actors, are pieces of meat who are there to amuse and distract us from what's really going on in the world. 

[vangrop]

Did your balls resists to all the stuff you take for having a 50 cm biceps. Man, a famous Belgian bodybuilder got cancer due to that stuff. Anabolics, testosterons, name it. The guy has no balls anymore and of intercourse is finished for him. Good luck with your projects

[JimTripper]

5 hours ago, vangrop said:

Did your balls resists to all the stuff you take for having a 50 cm biceps. Man, a famous Belgian bodybuilder got cancer due to that stuff. Anabolics, testosterons, name it. The guy has no balls anymore and of intercourse is finished for him. Good luck with your projects

 

he was interested in working out, not sex

 

arnold schwartzeneggar said in "pumping iron" that the high he got from working out was as good as sex. he was getting off working out. in other words, he was cumming almost all day every day. it's in his rio de janiero interview.

[PoorSucker]

On 10/11/2023 at 5:31 PM, scubascuba3 said:

Guys I know are on the roids although pretend they aren't, most don't admit it. Just fake muscle, fake performance

I take an injection once per month, don't go to gym.

It just makes me feel better and younger.

 

[georgegeorgia]

6 minutes ago, PoorSucker said:

I take an injection once per month, don't go to gym.

It just makes me feel better and younger.

 

May I ask your dose?

 

I had to cut mine down to 150 monthly because it seems I already had high testereone.

 

People must be aware of the dangers of testereone as well ,increased prostate cancer, heart attack ,and if you already have too much testereone you will grow "titties" and have erect nipples 

 

You will then have to go on anti estrogen medicine will will make you "breathless"  , my friend who owned a business in Pattaya was on high testereone last year ,I warned him ,I really did , sadly 

 

[SAFETY FIRST]

On 10/24/2023 at 5:58 AM, SAFETY FIRST said:

 

BTW, what is Testereone? 

I Googled testereone because I thought it was a new word I was not familiar with but as I thought you've misspelt it. 

 

No big deal, a misspelling, happens often but it's incredibly funny how everyone is following your new word 😏

[PoorSucker]

32 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

May I ask your dose?

 

I had to cut mine down to 150 monthly because it seems I already had high testereone.

 

People must be aware of the dangers of testereone as well ,increased prostate cancer, heart attack ,and if you already have too much testereone you will grow "titties" and have erect nipples 

 

You will then have to go on anti estrogen medicine will will make you "breathless"  , my friend who owned a business in Pattaya was on high testereone last year ,I warned him ,I really did , sadly 

 

Started with 150 when I was 50, now 250 per month when I'm 56.

No side effects except occasionally morning erection.

[NoshowJones]

On 10/23/2023 at 6:01 PM, JimTripper said:

not sure why you would grow breasts with testosterone. that's more like what estrogen would do, or lack of testosterone.

 

if you're lifting weight's that often it will enhance your breasts if you have fatty tissue there. all lifting does is increase chest muscles underneath the fatty tissue.

 

to kill off fatty tissue do something like swimming, not weight lifting.

Regular weight lifting with, or even without testosterone, just turns people into over muscled monkey men, as has been already said take up swimming, or bike riding, or even weight training in moderation.

[JimTripper]

1 hour ago, georgegeorgia said:

You will then have to go on anti estrogen medicine will will make you "breathless"  , my friend who owned a business in Pattaya was on high testereone last year ,I warned him ,I really did , sadly 

 

What happened to him?

[QuantumQuandry]

Medical advice on non-medical forums is always hilarious.

[scubascuba3]

10 hours ago, Bobthegimp said:

The muscle and performance enhancements are real. 

Of course not, it's artificial, fake, accept it and take it if you need it

[JensenZ]

On 10/24/2023 at 9:39 AM, fredwiggy said:

Have been weightlifting 50 years, no drugs, and I'm not a stupid person as you assume. No tattoos either, although all my children have them, besides my 6 year old here. If I could get HGH, I would take it, as everyone breaks down eventually and I'm not concerned anymore with lifting extreme weights but staying fit.

It is easy enough to get hgh, but I wouldn't recommend it though. I had nasty side effects from it when I tried it back in 2009... and no, it wasn't the hgh as that was genuine and high quality and I was using a low dose. That stuff can kill you.

[SingAPorn]

Most bodybuilders use it and rarely confess. The risk is that all this sh.... alters their minds and suddenly they can get violent and agressive for any absurd reason. They should be required to provide a medical certificate to proove they are not under steroids.

[JensenZ]

On 10/26/2023 at 11:21 AM, NoshowJones said:

Regular weight lifting with, or even without testosterone, just turns people into over muscled monkey men, as has been already said take up swimming, or bike riding, or even weight training in moderation.

This is absolute nonsense unless you have a very low standard of what you consider "jacked".

 

Assuming most people here are 50 plus (I'm 64), taking testosterone does not automatically make muscles pop. If you want a good physique as an older guy, and you haven't had many years of bodybuilding experience, you will find it very difficult to build muscle even with the addition of exogenous testosterone. I've been training for most of the last 50 years, so even if I take a long time off, I can quickly build up muscle again with a low dose of testosterone... but it is very hard work and a lot harder than when I was young as aging joints and connective tissue invariably slow you down. You really have to know what you're doing as the type of training I do now is very different from how I trained when I was younger.

 

Now, if you want to get really jacked as an old man, it will take a lot more drugs than just testosterone... and that gets very dangerous, and more dangerous the older you get.

 

Thanks for the suggestion of swimming and bike riding to maintain cardiovascular health. More than half of my weekly training is cardio work.

[JensenZ]

4 minutes ago, SingAPorn said:

Most bodybuilders use it and rarely confess. The risk is that all this sh.... alters their minds and suddenly they can get violent and agressive for any absurd reason. They should be required to provide a medical certificate to proove they are not under steroids.

Assuming you're referring to testosterone... you need to study up on what TRT is. It's taking enough testosterone to get your levels up to a normal range. You will not become any more aggressive than any younger person with normal levels.

[JensenZ]

On 10/26/2023 at 10:29 AM, PoorSucker said:

I take an injection once per month, don't go to gym.

It just makes me feel better and younger.

 

It's no good taking it once a month. You'll have high levels for a few days, and then back to nothing for the rest of the month. The only reason why doctors go along with this nonsense (once every 3-4 weeks) is because people don't enjoy frequent injections.

 

The best way would be tiny doses twice a week, but that would be tough going for many.

[JimTripper]

i gave up lifting weights at about 50 years old. no muscle gains and body fat increasing much faster, so why do it? if you're over 50 looking for muscle gains is it worth it? or maybe you just like a tough challenge (but no need for testosterone for that).

 

swimming, bike riding, rowing now. still on a strap water rower though, and not a magnetic one like the really old guys use for flexibility 😅.

[JensenZ]

16 hours ago, JimTripper said:

i gave up lifting weights at about 50 years old. no muscle gains and body fat increasing much faster, so why do it? if you're over 50 looking for muscle gains is it worth it? or maybe you just like a tough challenge (but no need for testosterone for that).

 

swimming, bike riding, rowing now. still on a strap water rower though, and not a magnetic one like the really old guys use for flexibility 😅.

The older you are, the more important resistance work becomes. You lose muscle every year as your testosterone levels decline, and you increase your body fat as your estrogen levels increase. You need resistance work to at least keep what muscle you have. It's not a matter of one or the other. You should be doing both cardio and resistance work.

 

Interesting you mentioned rowing - that's one of the best exercises of all as it works the whole body and keeps the back strong provided you don't overdo it or have a back injury. I have a Concept 2 Rower that I use nearly every day. If you had to do just one exercise, that would be the one if you can handle the boredom of it. I use 4 different types of cardio work throughout the week to keep my interest up, but do resistance work nearly every other day. Heavy lifting is not necessary, but exercises that keep a lot of tension on the working muscles. You can gain more muscle using less weight while reducing the risk of injury. I train muscles to near failure often, but I can achieve that with lighter weights through the use of advanced techniques.

 

As far as how I look - I don't care about that. I'm already old and ugly. It's how I feel that counts. If you feel better you do tend to look better too. One of the important benefits of exercise is the reduction of stress (if that is a problem).

 

TRT is for optimizing health, not building more muscle.

[JimTripper]

1 hour ago, JensenZ said:

The older you are, the more important resistance work becomes. You lose muscle every year as your testosterone levels decline, and you increase your body fat as your estrogen levels increase. You need resistance work to at least keep what muscle you have. It's not a matter of one or the other. You should be doing both cardio and resistance work.

 

Interesting you mentioned rowing - that's one of the best exercises of all as it works the whole body and keeps the back strong provided you don't overdo it or have a back injury. I have a Concept 2 Rower that I use nearly every day. If you had to do just one exercise, that would be the one if you can handle the boredom of it. I use 4 different types of cardio work throughout the week to keep my interest up, but do resistance work nearly every other day. Heavy lifting is not necessary, but exercises that keep a lot of tension on the working muscles. You can gain more muscle using less weight while reducing the risk of injury. I train muscles to near failure often, but I can achieve that with lighter weights through the use of advanced techniques.

 

As far as how I look - I don't care about that. I'm already old and ugly. It's how I feel that counts. If you feel better you do tend to look better too. One of the important benefits of exercise is the reduction of stress (if that is a problem).

 

TRT is for optimizing health, not building more muscle.

I liked rowing for years, but I actually like swimming better now for the body workout. There's something about having to keep the body afloat over a longer period if time that feels much stronger then a rowing session.

 

There's also the pool issue. Being close to an empty pool regularly without kids or other people wading around is a deal breaker. I don't swim well, or exercise in any way in general, when there are people around watching, unless they are self-absorbed in their own workouts. Opposite to what athletes typically do oddly enough during competitions. I think they learn to screen out the audience though, so it's just them. Fortunately, I have access to one now that's always empty at certain times.

[fredwiggy]

18 hours ago, JensenZ said:

It is easy enough to get hgh, but I wouldn't recommend it though. I had nasty side effects from it when I tried it back in 2009... and no, it wasn't the hgh as that was genuine and high quality and I was using a low dose. That stuff can kill you.

I will try it as soon as I can afford it regularly. It's mainly what Stallone has used over the years. You do need to be tested regularly by a sports doctor for any changes that aren't good. I just want to keep what I have for as long as possible. My joints were hurt by lifting so heavy for so long so I just work out lighter now. Problem here is that the only gym doesn't open until 2 PM, and I've been used to training early mornings for over 45 years.

[georgegeorgia]

30 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I will try it as soon as I can afford it regularly. It's mainly what Stallone has used over the years. You do need to be tested regularly by a sports doctor for any changes that aren't good. I just want to keep what I have for as long as possible. My joints were hurt by lifting so heavy for so long so I just work out lighter now. Problem here is that the only gym doesn't open until 2 PM, and I've been used to training early mornings for over 45 years.

I prefer afternoon training , strange that a gym doesn't open till afternoon,I guess they must close late .

Just try the afternoon routine,you will get used to it eventually