4 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

The real question is whether *you* believe that the 2020 election was stolen.

Who cares, I don't live there, and didn't vote when I did.  Not sure if 'democracy' ever existed.  Mind boggling that non-Yanks are obsessed the Trump & USA politics.

 

I'm a firm believer of this statement:

"If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it" - credited to Mark Twain or not.

6 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

The real question is whether *you* believe that the 2020 election was stolen.

You keep asking questions that are not on topic.

Don't you ever have anything on topic to discuss?

 

To be on topic, do you think the polls in the topic are correct?

1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

Yeah, but that might be a good thing.

Maybe 2024 election will be the end of the current "2-party system", which has always had people fighting.

Maybe a better system is on the horizon.

That will never happen, since the puppeteers control everything.

Just now, KhunLA said:

Who cares, I don't live there, and didn't vote when I did.  Not sure if 'democracy' ever existed.  Mind boggling that non-Yanks are obsessed the Trump & USA politics.

 

I'm a firm believer of this statement:

"If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it" - credited to Mark Twain or not.

I care who wins because America, like it or not, is important for the entire western world, now that all the other western countries have run their military forces down to almost insignificance.

Apparently transgender studies etc are of more importance than defense.

10 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Does Trump pay you rent to live in your head?

 

Seems like you need a nice cup of tea and a long lie down, as all that hate will shorten your lifespan.

 

BTW, if American "democracy" is so fragile it probably won't last much longer anyway.

 

Good luck getting through the Secret Service guys to do what you reckon you will do. Perhaps you can gather up a few more ex SEALS from a Pattaya bar to do the job though, or perhaps Stallone is on standby with his team to help out.

 

Have a nice day.

Says the guy who believes that Joe Biden is a felon.

4 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

You keep asking questions that are not on topic.

Don't you ever have anything on topic to discuss?

 

To be on topic, do you think the polls in the topic are correct?

No.

 

Polls taken a year before the election do not predict the results of the election.

Just now, KhunLA said:

That will never happen, since the puppeteers control everything.

Disagree. They can put a proportional voting system in which is worse than the present shambles, speaking from a country with such ( both proportional voting and a shambles for government ). If nobody is happy is that a good thing?

2 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Says the guy who believes that Joe Biden is a felon.

I believe that Biden is a felon as much as you believe Trump is one.

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I believe that Biden is a felon as much as you believe Trump is one.

Being a felon is a job requirement for politicians.

2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I believe that Biden is a felon as much as you believe Trump is one.

I just follow the evidence, you follow talking points.

 

I can give you 91 criminal charges against Trump, including the specific laws that he violated?

 

Can you specify any laws that Biden has broken?

1 minute ago, KhunLA said:

That will never happen, since the puppeteers control everything.

Peter Zeihan says that a 3rd party has contested US Federal elections 7 times already..

 

end of the current "2-party system

 

Republican elite, with cash and know-how, has been pushed aside by the "populist" wing.. They are out of power/influence and don't like it! They will form a 3rd party and some disaffected Democrats will join them..

Just now, Danderman123 said:

I just follow the evidence, you follow talking points.

 

I can give you 91 criminal charges against Trump, including the specific laws that he violated?

 

Can you specify any laws that Biden has broken?

You just keep asking the same questions and I keep saying that I'm not going to be baited. You know what they say about doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is, don't you?

17 minutes ago, bobbin said:

Peter Zeihan says that a 3rd party has contested US Federal elections 7 times already..

 

end of the current "2-party system

 

Republican elite, with cash and know-how, has been pushed aside by the "populist" wing.. They are out of power/influence and don't like it! They will form a 3rd party and some disaffected Democrats will join them..

3rd party election results in my lifetime.   Insignificant, would be an understatement:

 

source

Edited November 6, 20232 yr by KhunLA

3 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

3rd party election results in my lifetime.   Insignificant, would be an understatement:

source

You said never happen..

6 minutes ago, bobbin said:

You said never happen..

Was replying to this statement ... emphasis on any possibility of a 'better system'😂

 

.. "Maybe 2024 election will be the end of the current "2-party system", which has always had people fighting.

Maybe a better system is on the horizon." ...

 

Obviously there's been 3rd parties, unless one lives under rock, and didn't know of such things.

Edited November 6, 20232 yr by KhunLA

53 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Does Trump pay you rent to live in your head?

 

     Careful, the cheque will bounce!

Didn't trump lose while he should not have lost, while we now know that Sam bankman fried of FTX was in reality a illegal 6th largest political donor? That means the coup was real.

17 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

"Maybe 2024 election will be the end of the current "2-party system", which has always had people fighting.

The political fighting in NZ has been worse with multiple parties in government than when it was 2 parties.

1 hour ago, Walker88 said:

"politically driven prosecutions"

 

Perhaps you haven't noticed, but the fat man treasonous scumball tried to overthrow 250 years of US democracy, and do it by fomenting both a violent coup and by his 'fake elector' scheme. Only idiots think he had his goobers march to the Capitol on 6 Jan to buy souvenirs.

 

Of course he's also a convicted charity fraudster, a convicted bank and insurance fraudster (who is about to lose his 30,000 sf 10,997 sf apartment), a convicted sex offender, indicted for stealing highly classified documents, indicted for his 6 January actions, indicted for paying off a pornstar for which his bag man was already convicted, and indicted for RICO and other illegal acts in Georgia to which 3 of his minions have already plead guilty.

 

Frankly, he should be shot once convicted (If SC Smith adds "Sedition" to trump's 6 Jan actions, that is possible, as sedition is a capital offense). He might still win even if shot or fried like Sunday morning bacon in the electric chair, because his goobers are friggin morons, but at least we'd be physically done with him.

 

The lower one's IQ, the more devoted one is to the clown trump.

 

On Bill Maher the other night Fareed Zakaria was asked what will happen in 2024. Fareed answered, "Two things: either trump wins, or else he loses but claims he won...and he'll get the support of the newly elected Talibangical Speaker, who will accept fake electors."

 

2024 might be the end of US democracy and elections. If so, all bets are off, and I'll be happy to eradicate any and all traitors, no matter where they are. I took that oath, and will abide by it.

Thank you and ditto for me never give up the ship!also it’s waaaay to early in the race to give polls much credibility.it is amusing as an American to see some of the foreign folks feel the need to stick their nose in it so to speak in support of an obvious conn man

4 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The political fighting in NZ has been worse with multiple parties in government than when it was 2 parties.

Well if you are upset about that then obviously it must be good for NZ and democracy 

8 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The political fighting in NZ has been worse with multiple parties in government than when it was 2 parties.

Look at Thailand 6 parties plus

3 minutes ago, Tug said:

Well if you are upset about that then obviously it must be good for NZ and democracy 

NZ is a mess

1 hour ago, 2baht said:

 

     There doesn't seem to be many interested! Only geriatrics lining up!

Indian guy 38

Just now, bignok said:

Indian guy 38

 

     Not a snowflakes hope in hell of winning!

2 minutes ago, 2baht said:

 

     Not a snowflakes hope in hell of winning!

Go Trump then

Just now, bignok said:

Go Trump then

 

      I hope he gets a jump suit to match his complexion! Orange!

1 minute ago, 2baht said:

 

      I hope he gets a jump suit to match his complexion! Orange!

They have a range of parachutes

Just now, bignok said:

They have a range of parachutes

 

     You want to throw him out of a plane? OK!

1 hour ago, Walker88 said:

2024 might be the end of US democracy and elections. If so, all bets are off, and I'll be happy to eradicate any and all traitors, no matter where they are. I took that oath, and will abide by it.

Crazy talk. Go have a glass of water and lie down.

1 minute ago, 2baht said:

 

     You want to throw him out of a plane? OK!

Land in on the next Tyson fight. Great show.